Solved CPU not compatible with Windows 11

NavyLCDR · Nov 13, 2021

djg145 said:
So Microsoft are doing their bit to 'save the planet' by forcing people - if they want Windows 11 - to throw their almost new computers on the tip.
Great job Microsoft great job.

How far back should MS keep supporting hardware? 386? 486? Should they offer Windows 10 or 11 on floppy disks? What about cell phone carriers that are no longer support older phones on their networks? Do you have the same complaint about AT&T, Verizon, etc? This is from AT&T's website:

Porthos · Nov 13, 2021

djg145 said:
So Microsoft are doing their bit to 'save the planet' by forcing people - if they want Windows 11 - to throw their almost new computers on the tip.
Great job Microsoft great job.

Like with anything else it is up to the consumer to recycle it properly. Not just toss it in the bin/trash.

barman58 · Nov 13, 2021

No. they are suggesting it's safer for those with incompatible hardware to stick with Windows Ten until they are ready to upgrade - It's still supported for a few years

BunnyJ · Nov 13, 2021

NavyLCDR said:
How far back should MS keep supporting hardware? 386? 486? Should they offer Windows 10 or 11 on floppy disks? What about cell phone carriers that are no longer support older phones on their networks? Do you have the same complaint about AT&T, Verizon, etc? This is from AT&T's website:

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Floppy disks??? It would take over 2,400 floppies to hold/install 10,,

BunnyJ · Nov 13, 2021

djg145 said:
So Microsoft are doing their bit to 'save the planet' by forcing people - if they want Windows 11 - to throw their almost new computers on the tip.
Great job Microsoft great job.

In a way they are.. they're not selling the OS via DVD and are making a download that can be put onto a USB. But I get it.. you want to complain about MS.

zbook · Nov 13, 2021

These links may be useful:

How to Install Windows 11 on an Unsupported PC

Does Windows 11 say your PC isn't supported? We've got the fixes.

www.howtogeek.com

Update on Windows 11 minimum system requirements and the PC Health Check app

Today’s blog post provides two updates. First, an update on Windows 11 minimum system requirements based, in part, on feedback from the Windows Insider community. Second, information on the updated PC Health Check app that is now available to Windo

blogs.windows.com

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We have included more details below on our principles that guided us in establishing Windows 11 minimum system requirements.
Here are some insights from the data we gathered over the last couple months that affirmed our decision.

Reliability: Devices that do not meet the minimum system requirements had 52% more kernel mode crashes.
Devices that do meet the minimum system requirements had a 99.8% crash free experience.

Security: Windows 11 raises the baseline of Windows security by improving the security default configuration to combat
increasing cyber-attacks.
These requirements were informed based on trillions of signals from Microsoft’s threat intelligence as well as input from
leading security experts like the NSA, UK National Cyber Security Center and Canadian Centre for Cyber Security.
Additional details on the background and value of Windows 11 baseline are below.

Compatibility: People continue to increasingly use their PCs for video conferencing, productivity and gaming.
To ensure all Windows 11 devices can run a core set of applications to meet those needs, we set the minimum
system requirements to align with some of the most commonly used apps.

barman58 · Nov 13, 2021

One thing that I do not like is something that is seen more and more ...
Instead of stating the pass gets one metric and fail gets another they say it with two different metrics :think:

Reliability: Devices that do not meet the minimum system requirements had 52% more kernel mode crashes.
Devices that do meet the minimum system requirements had a 99.8% crash free experience.

Bree · Nov 13, 2021

djg145 said:
So Microsoft are doing their bit to 'save the planet' by forcing people - if they want Windows 11 - to throw their almost new computers on the tip.

Intel launched their 8th gen processors on 5th October 2017, so the first Windows 11 compatible machines would now be four years old.

mecanicogolf · Nov 13, 2021

Oh fiddlesticks! Maybe I;ll just go back to Win 10 21H2 and screw all this.

mecanicogolf · Nov 13, 2021

Wasn't this something like what happened to Win 7 when you installed Win 10 about 7 years ago? I don't think that the CPU'S were very compatible either.

Porthos · Nov 13, 2021

mecanicogolf said:
Oh fiddlesticks! Maybe I;ll just go back to Win 10 21H2 and screw all this.

Win 10 is currently going to be supported until 2025 so that is a good plan just to be safe.
I will stay on 10 and will revisit the issue and get a replacement computer in 2025. Gives me plenty of time to save.
Since I only do refurbs Plenty of 8th gen computers will be available on the cheap.
I have a licensed VM of 11 to play with.

Porthos · Nov 13, 2021

mecanicogolf said:
Wasn't this something like what happened to Win 7 when you installed Win 10 about 7 years ago? I don't think that the CPU'S were very compatible either.

Different issue, Some low-powered computers ran like crap. Also, Driver issues with some computers and of course some software need to be upgraded. Heck, some needed new printers as well.
Same thing as with XP and Vista as well.

Bree · Nov 13, 2021

Porthos said:
Since I only do refurbs Plenty of 8th gen computers will be available on the cheap.

Plenty already are. I only buy used laptops and I've see a Dell with an i3 8th gen at around £180 here. My System One came from the same source at not much more than that.

Porthos · Nov 13, 2021

Bree said:
Plenty already are. I only buy used laptops and I've see a Dell with an i3 8th gen at around £180 here. My System One came from the same source at not much more than that.

I have been using and selling business class refurbs for years. My trusted vendors here in the US are still doing 6 and 7 gen and older. In the process of searching for some new vendors that have compatible computers, I can supply to my clients on a tightish budget.

Bree · Nov 13, 2021

Porthos said:
In the process of searching for some new vendors that have compatible computers, I can supply to my clients on a tightish budget.

Well, I'm buying for myself, so that makes it easier to shop around for the best bargains. I can also afford to wait and see what turns up. My 'supplier of choice' has a no-quible returns policy, so in the rare event of a problem machine I can just return it and get my money back.

SlicEnDicE · Nov 14, 2021

barman58 said:
One thing that I do not like is something that is seen more and more ...
Instead of stating the pass gets one metric and fail gets another they say it with two different metrics

Reliability: Devices that do not meet the minimum system requirements had 52% more kernel mode crashes.
Devices that do meet the minimum system requirements had a 99.8% crash free experience.

Assuming all the crashes are Kernel mode crashes then, the difference is that 0.2% has crashes on supported systems, while 0.3% had crashes on non supported systems. in my book this is very minimal difference and could actually have been caused by other reasons than the CPU itself.

barman58 · Nov 14, 2021

I did the math too, and came to the same sort of figures the whole technique seems to be something thought up by the sales department, when you see the 52% that gives you an impression of a huge advantage to the one side when in reality it's a minor difference

Superfly · Nov 14, 2021

barman58 said:
I did the math too, and came to the same sort of figures the whole technique seems to be something thought up by the sales department, when you see the 52% that gives you an impression of a huge advantage to the one side when in reality it's a minor difference

Exactly...

Having said that, we need to be conscious of the fact we can't rely on software for security - firmware based security is much more important .. I see Linux is being targeted with ransomware now as well ...