Erratic stall / freeze with browsers, 25H2, NVIDIA 4060


MysteriousBox

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When I am on Reddit, and I am scrolling through posts - there are autoplay videos. These videos prior to KB5101650 would load just fine, but after KB5101650 if I scroll just a tad too quickly the entire browser freezes and eventually unfreezes. This applies to every browser including Chrome an FireFox.

I uninstalled the update KB5101650 to test, and the issue comes back after reinstalling KB5101650.

I have also updated the nvidia drivers and repeated this with no fix.

NVIDIA 610.62 (4060 MSI)

I am not entirely sure why KB5101650 would affect reddit's videos loading etc.
 

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I disabled autoplay on reddit, but it still does not fix this random "freeze" that occurs and still so far, only on reddit.

I am inclined to believe it's a reddit issue, but I haven't seen any posts from anyone regarding this strangeness.
 

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That definitely sounds like KB5101650 has introduced some sort of graphics or video decoding issue.

The fact it happens in Chrome and Firefox, stops when you uninstall the update, then comes back after reinstalling it is a pretty solid indication the update is the cause rather than Reddit or the browser itself.

I would try turning off hardware acceleration in one browser first and see if that stops the freezing. In Chrome, go to Settings, System, then turn off “Use graphics acceleration when available” and restart the browser.

You could also try disabling hardware accelerated GPU scheduling in Windows under Settings, System, Display, Graphics, Default graphics settings, then reboot.

If either of those fixes it, I would report it through Feedback Hub and include the update number, your RTX 4060 and NVIDIA driver version. It may be a new bug that Microsoft has not acknowledged yet.
 
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PvtJohnTowle said:
That definitely sounds like KB5101650 has introduced some sort of graphics or video decoding issue.

The fact it happens in Chrome and Firefox, stops when you uninstall the update, then comes back after reinstalling it is a pretty solid indication the update is the cause rather than Reddit or the browser itself.

I would try turning off hardware acceleration in one browser first and see if that stops the freezing. In Chrome, go to Settings, System, then turn off “Use graphics acceleration when available” and restart the browser.

You could also try disabling hardware accelerated GPU scheduling in Windows under Settings, System, Display, Graphics, Default graphics settings, then reboot.

If either of those fixes it, I would report it through Feedback Hub and include the update number, your RTX 4060 and NVIDIA driver version. It may be a new bug that Microsoft has not acknowledged yet.
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I already tried disabling hardware acceleration, and even a full reinstall of Windows 11 25H2 after wiping the drive. As soon as KB5101650 touches the OS, it screws up the browsers so that eventually they lag when scrolling. At first I thought it was just reddit, but it turns out it affected every website.

I did further testing, and it actually affected the entire browser - but it just took longer for it to accumulate whatever bugs it was doing.
 

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Would like to update this thread.

So with build 26200.8037, the weird stall of browsers (Chrome and Firefox, have not tested edge as I don't use it) still happens. This is getting me frustrated, however does point to KB5101650 not being the source of the browser stall issue and makes me have to go down another complete rabbit hole. Event Viewer is clean as a whistle.

NVIDIA Studio Ready drivers 561.09, 596.36 and 610.62 exhibited this behaviour.
Running tests on browserbench.org did not stall the browsers.

Can a moderator change the title of the thread to "Erratic stall / freeze with browsers, 25H2, NVIDIA 4060" so that it is more inline with the current circumstance?

I do have to wonder if the Chrome and FireFox updates that happened between July 14th and now have changed something that whatever is on my computer doesn't like.

Chrome Version 150.0.7871.187 (Official Build) (64-bit)
Firefox Version 153.0 (64-bit)
 

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25H2 26200.8894

To unfreeze open the Task Manager > Processes > Edge > GPU Process > End.
You can wait a while > 5 min or longer it will unfreeze by itself.

I have Repaired Edge, Settings > Apps > Installed apps > Microsoft Edge > 3 dots > Modify > Repair.

The freezing is rather infrequent ~ 1 per day, but consistent, with no errors indicated. It needs a long test, but so far (5 days) seems to work.
However the 26200.8894 update was done around the same time so doubts remain. Edge updated 25 July.

It is only the Web Browser that freezes. In this case Intel iGPU.
 

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I have tested by plugging my DP into the iGPU plug directly on the motherboard and used that. Still have the freezing issue.
So I am confused why it is affecting both the iGPU (intel) and 4060 regardless of settings?

Something in Chrome and Firefox has changed (???) or the difference between OS build 26200.6584 and 26200.8037.
Really wish I knew what to do next.
 

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MysteriousBox said:
Really wish I knew what to do next.
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Are you running any tweaking apps?
Like Explorer Patcher, StartAllBack, etc.?

If you are, make sure you have the latest versions.

You can also run the browsers with NO extensions or add-ons.
For Firefox, go to: Help > Troubleshoot Mode

That will temporarily disable all extensions and add-ons.
 

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Ghot said:
Are you running any tweaking apps?
Like Explorer Patcher, StartAllBack, etc.?

If you are, make sure you have the latest versions.

You can also run the browsers with NO extensions or add-ons.
For Firefox, go to: Help > Troubleshoot Mode

That will temporarily disable all extensions and add-ons.
Click to expand...
No tweaking apps ever used.

This issue occurs without any add-ons or extensions, even on a freshly installed browser.
 

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MysteriousBox said:
This issue occurs without any add-ons or extensions, even on a freshly installed browser
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You need to find what's different on your system.
I'm on 26200.8875 running FF 153.0 and have no issues like that.
I have Hardware acceleration enabled in Windows Settings and in Firefox.

I have Autoplay in FF disabled, as well as AI Controls.
I also completely removed CoPilot from Win 11... long ago.
 

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Ghot said:
You need to find what's different on your system.
I'm on 26200.8875 running FF 153.0 and have no issues like that.
I have Hardware acceleration enabled in Windows Settings and in Firefox.

I have Autoplay in FF disabled, as well as AI Controls.
I also completely removed CoPilot from Win 11... long ago.
Click to expand...

Different how exactly? I haven't changed anything in my System. I have a step-by-step install process for fresh installs that I follow, so everything is identical.
This issue persists on Chrome and Firefox.

Never had CoPilot on my PC. Browser was always standard install (eg. autoplay enabled)
 

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MysteriousBox said:
Different how exactly? I haven't changed anything in my System. I have a step-by-step install process for fresh installs that I follow, so everything is identical.
This issue persists on Chrome and Firefox.

Never had CoPilot on my PC. Browser was always standard install (eg. autoplay enabled)
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Well, try without autoplay enabled, just to test.

There are other things common to Chrome and Firefox.
The router, the modem, your ISP, your Network settings... etc.

On a side note... the following will help you finish filling in your system specs...
For example, if we knew what motherboard you have, we could check it's manual to see if anything stands out.

Use CPU-Z to get your System Specs...

CPU-Z (free), will show you make/model for everything except: drives, case and power supply. You'll need to add make/model for monitor, keyboard and mouse as well. That info should be easy to find. Portable version: https://download.cpuid.com/cpu-z/cpu-z_2.17-en.zip
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com

Disk Management will help with the drives.
 
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 15 years?
Ghot said:
Well, try without autoplay enabled, just to test.

There are other things common to Chrome and Firefox.
The router, the modem, your ISP, your Network settings... etc.

On a side note... the following will help you finish filling in your system specs...
For example, if we knew what motherboard you have, we could check it's manual to see if anything stands out.

Use CPU-Z to get your System Specs...

CPU-Z (free), will show you make/model for everything except: drives, case and power supply. You'll need to add make/model for monitor, keyboard and mouse as well. That info should be easy to find. Portable version: https://download.cpuid.com/cpu-z/cpu-z_2.17-en.zip
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com

Disk Management will help with the drives.
Click to expand...

I have added my system stats.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 Pro 25H2i7 12700k64GB DDR5 [CMK64GX5M2B5200C40]MSI 4060 2x Ventus 8G
OS
Windows 11 Pro 25H2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY
CPU
i7 12700k
Motherboard
7E07vMA [Z790 Pro Max Wifi]
Memory
64GB DDR5 [CMK64GX5M2B5200C40]
Graphics Card(s)
MSI 4060 2x Ventus 8G
Sound Card
Realtek® ALC4080 Codec
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS VA24DQSB
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 @ 75hz
Hard Drives
Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (OS Drive)
Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (Secondary Drive)
Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (Other)
Samsung 860 Pro 512 (Other)
WD6400AAKS (Other)
PSU
Corsair 850x
Cooling
Noctua NH-D15
Mouse
G502 X Lightspeed
Browser
Chrome, Firefox
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Premium, Defender

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 Pro 25H2i7 12700k64GB DDR5 [CMK64GX5M2B5200C40]MSI 4060 2x Ventus 8G
OS
Windows 11 Pro 25H2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY
CPU
i7 12700k
Motherboard
7E07vMA [Z790 Pro Max Wifi]
Memory
64GB DDR5 [CMK64GX5M2B5200C40]
Graphics Card(s)
MSI 4060 2x Ventus 8G
Sound Card
Realtek® ALC4080 Codec
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS VA24DQSB
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 @ 75hz
Hard Drives
Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (OS Drive)
Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (Secondary Drive)
Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (Other)
Samsung 860 Pro 512 (Other)
WD6400AAKS (Other)
PSU
Corsair 850x
Cooling
Noctua NH-D15
Mouse
G502 X Lightspeed
Browser
Chrome, Firefox
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Premium, Defender

My Computers My Computers

System One System Two

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 HomeRyzen 7 5825u64GB DDR4 3200Ryzen 7 5825u
    OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP 24" AiO
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5825u
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    64GB DDR4 3200
    Graphics Card(s)
    Ryzen 7 5825u
    Sound Card
    Realtek External 5w speaker bar.
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" HP AiO
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 @60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB WD Blue SN580 M2 SSD Partitioned C:/D: drives.
    2x 1TB USB HDD External Backup/Storage.
    all VeraCrypt encrypted.
    PSU
    90W external power brick
    Case
    24" All in One
    Cooling
    Default Air Cooling
    Keyboard
    Dell WiFi UK extended
    Mouse
    Dell WiFi 3 Button
    Internet Speed
    1GB full fibre
    Browser
    Vivaldi Browser/Email/Calendar
    Antivirus
    AVG Internet Security/Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Mainly Open Source Software

  • At a glance

    Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTSi5 7200u16GB DDR4Intel
    Operating System
    Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 13" Latitude 2017
    CPU
    i5 7200u
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel
    Sound Card
    Intel
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13" Dell Laptop
    Hard Drives
    250GB Crucial 2.5" SSD
    Mouse
    Generic WiFi 3 button
    Internet Speed
    WiFi only
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    ClamAV TK
    Other Info
    Mainly Open Source Software
MysteriousBox said:
I have added my system stats.
Click to expand...


Here's ten points, just for filling out your computer specs. :-)


There was an out-of-band update that addresses this issue, but mainly for DELL computers.
Might want to install this and see if it helps...

www.elevenforum.com

KB5121767 Windows 11 Out-of-band Update build 26100.8894 (24H2) and 26200.8894 (25H2) - July 18

UPDATE 7/28: https://www.elevenforum.com/t/kb5101684-windows-11-cumulative-update-preview-build-26100-8973-24h2-and-26200-8973-25h2-july-28.48397/ Microsoft Support: This out-of-band (OOB) update for Windows 11, version 25H2 and Windows 11, version 24H2 (KB5121767) is cumulative. It includes...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com
 

My Computers My Computers

System One System Two

  • At a glance

    Win 11 Home 26H2 26300.9711AMD Ryzen 7 3700XG.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    OS
    Win 11 Home 26H2 26300.9711
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 5302)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1

  • At a glance

    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 15 years?
Ghot said:
Here's ten points, just for filling out your computer specs. :-)


There was an out-of-band update that addresses this issue, but mainly for DELL computers.
Might want to install this and see if it helps...

www.elevenforum.com

KB5121767 Windows 11 Out-of-band Update build 26100.8894 (24H2) and 26200.8894 (25H2) - July 18

UPDATE 7/28: https://www.elevenforum.com/t/kb5101684-windows-11-cumulative-update-preview-build-26100-8973-24h2-and-26200-8973-25h2-july-28.48397/ Microsoft Support: This out-of-band (OOB) update for Windows 11, version 25H2 and Windows 11, version 24H2 (KB5121767) is cumulative. It includes...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com
Click to expand...

I installed this KB5121767 (in another thread) and it did not solve the issue in any way. The fact the freeze exists even in 26200.8037 after thorough inspection makes me want to choke :(

I have reinstalled the original 25H2 26200.6584 ISO build at this time to see if the freeze returns.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 Pro 25H2i7 12700k64GB DDR5 [CMK64GX5M2B5200C40]MSI 4060 2x Ventus 8G
OS
Windows 11 Pro 25H2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY
CPU
i7 12700k
Motherboard
7E07vMA [Z790 Pro Max Wifi]
Memory
64GB DDR5 [CMK64GX5M2B5200C40]
Graphics Card(s)
MSI 4060 2x Ventus 8G
Sound Card
Realtek® ALC4080 Codec
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS VA24DQSB
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 @ 75hz
Hard Drives
Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (OS Drive)
Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (Secondary Drive)
Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (Other)
Samsung 860 Pro 512 (Other)
WD6400AAKS (Other)
PSU
Corsair 850x
Cooling
Noctua NH-D15
Mouse
G502 X Lightspeed
Browser
Chrome, Firefox
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Premium, Defender
1. Update your Web Browsers to the latest available.
2. Update Windows 11 to the latest version. 25H2 26200.8894
MysteriousBox said:
I have tested by plugging my DP into the iGPU plug directly on the motherboard and used that. Still have the freezing issue.
So I am confused why it is affecting both the iGPU (intel) and 4060 regardless of settings?

Something in Chrome and Firefox has changed (???) or the difference between OS build 26200.6584 and 26200.8037.
Really wish I knew what to do next.
Click to expand...

That indicates it is not a driver problem.
You are wasting time on trying to analyse what Windows/Browser update or whatever caused it.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11
OS
Windows 11
Helmut said:
1. Update your Web Browsers to the latest available.
2. Update Windows 11 to the latest version. 25H2 26200.8894


That indicates it is not a driver problem.
You are wasting time on trying to analyse what Windows/Browser update or whatever caused it.
Click to expand...

How is that a waste of time? I would prefer to have a functional computer without this freeze issue as a large part of my day involves scrolling on the browsers.

Identifying if it is caused by one of the cumulative updates or not is important to troubleshooting, if this ever gets fixed!
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 Pro 25H2i7 12700k64GB DDR5 [CMK64GX5M2B5200C40]MSI 4060 2x Ventus 8G
OS
Windows 11 Pro 25H2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
DIY
CPU
i7 12700k
Motherboard
7E07vMA [Z790 Pro Max Wifi]
Memory
64GB DDR5 [CMK64GX5M2B5200C40]
Graphics Card(s)
MSI 4060 2x Ventus 8G
Sound Card
Realtek® ALC4080 Codec
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS VA24DQSB
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 @ 75hz
Hard Drives
Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (OS Drive)
Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (Secondary Drive)
Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (Other)
Samsung 860 Pro 512 (Other)
WD6400AAKS (Other)
PSU
Corsair 850x
Cooling
Noctua NH-D15
Mouse
G502 X Lightspeed
Browser
Chrome, Firefox
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Premium, Defender
After 20 years of random problems being caused by bad updates, this is my solution:
1785150344492.webp

This stops windows from changing things in the background, as the changes are constant and inevitably lead to something not working...
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 22H2 Pro (X-lite Micro 11 version)i7 13850HX (20 cores, 28 threads)32GB DDR5Intel UHD/ RTX 1000 ADA
OS
Windows 11 22H2 Pro (X-lite Micro 11 version)
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
Dell/ Precision 7680
CPU
i7 13850HX (20 cores, 28 threads)
Motherboard
Dell
Memory
32GB DDR5
Graphics Card(s)
Intel UHD/ RTX 1000 ADA
Sound Card
Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
4K UHD Touchscreen
Screen Resolution
3840 x 2400
Hard Drives
Samsung 512GB system drive
WD Blue 1TB game drive
PSU
240W AC adapter
Internet Speed
1 gigabit symmetrical
Browser
Firefox, Librewolf
Antivirus
None. Manully configured so nobody except me can change any critical system files. (Don't ask how, it's probably against some rule somewhere)
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