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Overclocking is not as easy as it looks. And one-click overclocking tools... hardly ever work.

General overclocking...
1. Raise the frequency maybe 10Mhz
2. Then stress test for stability.
3. If stable try another 10Mhz. Re-test.
4. When things become unstable, raise the voltage, say 1/10th of a millivolt.
5. Repeat steps 1-4.



In other words... your card and power supply may be fine.
The overclocking tool may be setting things back to default, to protect the card.
 
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Overclocking is not as easy as it looks. And one-click overclocking tools... hardly ever work.

General overclocking...
1. Raise the frequency maybe 10Mhz
2. Then stress test for stability.
3. If stable try another 10Mhz. Re-test.
4. When things become unstable, raise the voltage, say 1/10th of a millivolt.
5. Repeat steps 1-4.



In other words... your card and power supply may be fine.
The overclocking tool may be setting things back to default, to protect the card.
Actually it is as easy as it looks.
Mine was initially done through MSI afterburners Auto OC, Just mainly to see what it thought, I had no intentions on running the settings it gave me, Albeit it was a lighter OC it recommended than what i currently run but it worked flawlessly.
Instead of messing about with individual voltages etc, It literally does it for you. Afterburner makes OC'ing you're gpu as easy as buttering a slice of bread.
Dont be stupid of course and go adding crazy numbers or putting everything to max, that aint the way, Read up on what others have gotten with you're card.
Every die is slightly different, I believe the one i have in my gpu is a fairly good one as others with the same gpu haven't been able to hit my clocks and a few who hit better than i could.

Yeah it isn't resetting it to protect the card at all.
The program seems to be not that great.
 

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Agree I was starting to think that way also
many thanks
will give it a shot (y)
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As such, Mine sits at 1605 whilst idle and clocks to just over 2000 when in use, I have it set to not drop to 0,
The voltage counter on the right has been showing 0mv forever, Not an issue though. If you're worried give it a quick check in Hwinfo or something but youll notice something else before you notice that if theres ever an issue.

Done this on release of the card, Took about 10 minutes in terms of setting up and stressing( Other than playing games) and its been as such ever since, Other than upping it to what i could get out of it.

This is the auto clock that MSI assigned. Allows you to change between profiles when you need to :)
 

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Msi shows them all onscreen whilst doing what you're doing so it kinda does all.
Either that or i'd recommend to use Hwinfo, Its pretty much the mac daddy of monitors for literally everything. Aida64 extreme is also of similar ilk. Cpu and Gpu - z Are a bit dated IMO. They also sometimes report false numbers, Like that time i was running my CPU at 50ghz per core and my GPU ram at 17gb XD. No other program showed this so ruled it out as being sensor issues and more a those program issues.

Gpu uses little power when not being stressed if you chose it to run that way, Mine doesn't declock at all and runs at max performance always.
You can of course set this to change but you can sometimes notice it happening during gaming sessions etc with fps changes when its ramping up and down, Not always ofc but from time to time. Eliminates the issue.

All in all, Bin the software and use MSI, Its the OC go to for GPU's for a reason.

The benchmark/stress utility in MSI Afterburner is derived from Furmark.

The clocking part of it is derived from Rivatuner.

Other nVidia graphics card makers have their own software, also derived from Rivatuner (eVGA Precision, Gigabyte Aorus Engine, Zotac Firestorm, etc.). I'm not sure whether most of them will run with other maker's cards, but Afterburner certainly will.
 

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The benchmark/stress utility in MSI Afterburner is derived from Furmark.

The clocking part of it is derived from Rivatuner.

Other nVidia graphics card makers have their own software, also derived from Rivatuner (eVGA Precision, Gigabyte Aorus Engine, Zotac Firestorm, etc.). I'm not sure whether most of them will run with other maker's cards, but Afterburner certainly will.
Exactly! :) Partly why i use it also, As opposed to having several programs installed for it. Its one program for all cards and it doesn't discriminate:D
The gigabyte one for my card was awful as i expected
 

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You guys do realize that Afterburner and Rivatuner are both written by the same author?
 

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You guys do realize that Afterburner and Rivatuner are both written by the same author?
I knew that Alexey Nicolaychuk was the one who created it back n 97, But yeah he worked with EVGA precision as well.
RTSS is what we use now which actually came from Rivertuner but that was last updated in 09, Now its RTSS which is seperate but operated by Alexey, He did say in one of his recent forum posts though that he is done with public releases and updates of it so who knows now.
MSI made Msi afterburner with themselves and Nick Connors i believe.
 

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You sure about Afterburner?

 

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Pretty much all the vid card tweakers are based on Riva Tuner.
Don't even need Wikipedia for that.
Back then there wasn't anything BUT Riva Tuner. ;-)


@ShamrockRig

1. OP wasn't using Afterburner.
2. For every success story there's like 10 horror stories.
3. This entire thread is about, "why the settings (of the tool used), return to defaults every time".
 
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Pretty much all the vid card tweakers are based on Riva Tuner.
Don't even need Wikipedia for that.
Back then there wasn't anything BUT Riva Tuner. ;-)


@ShamrockRig

1. OP wasn't using Afterburner.
2. For every success story there's like 10 horror stories.
3. This entire thread is about, "why the settings return to defaults every time".
1. I know he wasn't i recommended it based on the entire thread being about the fact his current one resets to default. Eg, The program doesn't seem to be too good does it.
2. Again, As i said don't go maxing everything, Read into you're gpu and what can be achieved. Research before trying. Goes the same with everything.
3. Yup answered that in no.1
 

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1. I know he wasn't i recommended it based on the entire thread being about the fact his current one resets to default. Eg, The program doesn't seem to be too good does it.
2. Again, As i said don't go maxing everything, Read into you're gpu and what can be achieved. Research before trying. Goes the same with everything.
3. Yup answered that in no.1


Just happy we're on the same page. :-)
 

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You sure about Afterburner?

MSI Afterburner is, quite possibly, one of the most used GPU overclocking tools available today for Windows. The first version of MSI Afterburner was released in 2010 and is developed by MSI, or Micro-Star International, a Taiwanese technology company specialized in computer hardware.


And yes, it's that MSI, the one who makes PC gaming gear, graphics cards, motherboards, and whatnot. So does MSI Afterburner only work on MSI-made graphics cards?

Not at all.

MSI's tool prides itself on being an all-in-one overclocking utility that works on any graphics card, no matter if it's an Nvidia card or an AMD Radeon card, and also works on graphics cards not made by MSI. And best of all, it's completely free and has a lot of additional functionality besides just being an overclocking tool.


The overclocking part of MSI Afterburner is actually based on a quite old overclocking utility called RivaTuner. That one actually came out in 1997, but it was last updated in 2009. RivaTuner provides the backbone for several overclocking utilities, including EVGA Precision X and ASUS GPU Tweak, but also MSI Afterburner.

Back in its day, RivaTuner was the bee's knees, but most people have settled on MSI Afterburner by now. RivaTuner is still around—while the main RivaTuner software is unmaintained (although nothing technically stops you from using it), RivaTuner Statistics Server, a frame rate and hardware monitor tool that was originally a companion to the main RivaTuner tool, is still actively maintained, and even ships with the MSI Afterburner installer.



A snippet from https://www.makeuseof.com/the-complete-guide-to-using-msi-afterburner/

Rivatuner was made by Alexey Nicolaychuk in 97, Updated til 09, and then defunct and kept going with Rtss. He did not make MSI afterburner. I believe from what i found online was that Msi co-created with Nick Connors.

Anyways, Side tracking completely there, Back to the OP, I'd just try Afterburner and see how you go. Monitor what you need to.
 

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Bad time to buy expensive PSU. The new standard ATX 3.0 has not yet been implemented.

I dunno. I less than €100 for a Seasonic PSU expensive?

A bit more can be saved by using eVGA or Corsair, instead.
 

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Pretty much all the vid card tweakers are based on Riva Tuner.
Don't even need Wikipedia for that.
Back then there wasn't anything BUT Riva Tuner. ;-)


@ShamrockRig

1. OP wasn't using Afterburner.
2. For every success story there's like 10 horror stories.
3. This entire thread is about, "why the settings (of the tool used), return to defaults every time".


Number 3 is easy, you don't just slam the sliders as high as they will go and expect it to work when overclocking. You pretty much covered that in post #21,

Overclocking is not as easy as it looks. And one-click overclocking tools... hardly ever work.

General overclocking...
1. Raise the frequency maybe 10Mhz
2. Then stress test for stability.
3. If stable try another 10Mhz. Re-test.
4. When things become unstable, raise the voltage, say 1/10th of a millivolt.
5. Repeat steps 1-4.



In other words... your card and power supply may be fine.
The overclocking tool may be setting things back to default, to protect the card.
 

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The user was trying to achieve and OC that was not working. The sliders were resetting because that OC was unachievable. It doesn't matter what you use - MSI Afterburner, eVGA's PrecisionX, or anything else, if you set the OC values too high it is gonna crash the device that is being OCd. End of story.

Anyone who says OCing is 'easy' is either not really OCing, or just randomly picked a value, it worked, and they are happy with it. Actual OCing (when trying to find the max sustainable OC values to be used) involves all sorts of things, like the methodology that @Ghot suggested - incrementally increasing the clocks and aggressively stress testing the component(s) / device(s) to ascertain if the device remains stable at the OCd values or not.
 

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