Insider KB5014688 Windows 11 Insider Release Preview Build 22621.105 22H2 - June 14

cereberus said:

Yeah but wouldn't 21H2 RP upgrade to 22H2?

I can understand W10 still having RP if you do not upgrade to W11, but I cannot see how it works for W11.

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You'd think, there's been members who have updated to 22.000.766 and are still showing 21H2 on winver, so I like you, am at a loss

cereberus said:

Hi @Brink,

I am confused now - are we saying RP has not moved to 22621.105?

We can't have two RP versions?

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It appears so for 21H2 and 22H2 ??

Hello Windows Insiders, today we’re releasing Windows 11 Build 22000.776 (KB5014668) to Insiders in the Release Preview Channel on Windows 11 (original release).

Brink said:

It appears so for 21H2 and 22H2 ??

Hello Windows Insiders, today we’re releasing Windows 11 Build 22000.776 (KB5014668) to Insiders in the Release Preview Channel on Windows 11 (original release).

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What I do not get is why those on .739 or earlier do not get updated to 22621.105 - where is the logic in that?

The only thing I can think off is MS have withdrawn upgrade to 22621 temporarily?

cereberus said:

What I do not get is why those on .739 or earlier do not get updated to 22621.105 - where is the logic in that?

The only thing I can think off is MS have withdrawn upgrade to 22621 temporarily?

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22621 is an optional install for Release Preview, so looks like MS are running updates for both 21H2 and 22H2, at least for now. No different to Windows 10 still getting updates after 11 was released

BrianInEngland said:

22621 is an optional install for Release Preview, so looks like MS are running updates for both 21H2 and 22H2, at least for now. No different to Windows 10 still getting updates after 11 was released

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Yes - there is a BIG difference - you can choose not to update W10 to W11.

How do you choose not to upgrade 22000 to 22621?

cereberus said:

Yes - there is a BIG difference - you can choose not to update W10 to W11.

How do you choose not to upgrade 22000 to 22621?

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Does disabling the TPM not stop it? Haven't tried, I installed using an ISO of 22621

BrianInEngland said:

Does disabling the TPM not stop it? Haven't tried, I installed using an ISO of 22621

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I am not interested in finding ways of stopping it. I just want to know why MS are running two RP versions for W11 - makes no sense at all.

cereberus said:

How do you choose not to upgrade 22000 to 22621?

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It should be offered as an optional upgrade in Windows Update, if you want to stay on 21H2 RP you just choose not to.....

...Insiders currently in the Release Preview Channel that meet the Windows 11 hardware requirements can go to Settings and Windows Update and choose to download and install Windows 11, version 22H2 Build 22621 if they want.

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When onedrive is running and I re-open explorer, I can not right click on anything.
Once I close onedrive and then re-open explorer, everything is working again.

Bree said:

It should be offered as an optional upgrade in Windows Update, if you want to stay on 21H2 RP you just choose not to.....

Windows 11 Insider Release Preview Build 22621.1 (ni_release) Version 22H2 - June 7

UPDATE 6/14: https://www.elevenforum.com/t/kb5014688-windows-11-insider-release-preview-build-22621-105-june-14.7066/ Hello Windows Insiders! Today we are making Windows 11, version 22H2 Build 22621 available in the Release Preview Channel for Windows Insider Program for Business participants...

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I do not recollect getting optional update - my pc is w11 compatible and I am sure it just upgraded automatically. I will reinstall older version and see what happens.

Ok - curiouser and curiouser.

I am now fully up to date on RP 22000.776, and no sign of any update (forced or optional) to 22621. I know device is w11 compatible.

I do not know if it is typically MS randomly offering upgrade, or if something else has changed,

I remember how I got on to 22621 RP now - I upgraded (cloned in a vhdx) my release version to Beta by joining Insider as Beta as 22621.1.

I then copied vhdx file and moved to RP 22621.1. That later upgraded to 22621.105 in normal CU update.

I am not sure how that would work now as Beta is now on .160. You can probably select to move to RP but would have to wait for next update for RP beyond .160.

It is a real mystery to me why MS chose to diverge RP and Beta again (after converging again) so close to RTM release anyway.

So as far as I can tell, if you want to force the upgrade to 22621.105, download the 22621 iso, and upgrade by usual running of setup.exe from iso which will install 22621.1, and then make sure you are on RP (it defaults to Beta) and then check for updates.

MS do not make it easy LOL.

EDIT: Just tested upgrading via iso, and that worked fine. So I now have 2 RP channel installation (22000.779 and 22621.105) although I have to ask myself why I bothered other than curiosity LOL.

Is this the optional update I have?

Kol12 said:

Is this the optional update I have?

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If you are in the Insider Release Preview channel for 21H2 build 22000, you now have the option to upgrade to the Release Preview of 22H2, build 22621 that is due for public release latter this year. It's optional, you can stay on 22000 if you prefer.

Bree said:

If you are in the Insider Release Preview channel for 21H2 build 22000, you now have the option to upgrade to the Release Preview of 22H2, build 22621 that is due for public release latter this year. It's optional, you can stay on 22000 if you prefer.

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Someone said the optional update to the release preview of 22H2 installs like a reinstallation of Windows. Do you know any more about what the process looks like?

Kol12 said:

Someone said the optional update to the release preview of 22H2 installs like a reinstallation of Windows. Do you know any more about what the process looks like?

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No, not yet. Frustratingly, however often I check for updates my release preview 22000.776 VM hasn't been offered it yet.

Kol12 said:

Someone said the optional update to the release preview of 22H2 installs like a reinstallation of Windows. Do you know any more about what the process looks like?

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It installs like a regular upgrade build, you don't lose anything in the upgrade process.

Kol12 said:

Someone said the optional update to the release preview of 22H2 installs like a reinstallation of Windows. Do you know any more about what the process looks like?

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As other folks have indicated, this is basically like a Repair-Install -- in that it overwrites the Windows system files but leaves the data, settings, and apps intact. I do this myself every few months to clean out the crud.

Mark Phelps said:

As other folks have indicated, this is basically like a Repair-Install -- in that it overwrites the Windows system files but leaves the data, settings, and apps intact. I do this myself every few months to clean out the crud.

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I find this amusing as it is circular logic.

We have always described repair installs as being like doing a build upgrade except it reinstalls same version rather than new version keeping everything.

Of course, build upgrades pre-dated Repair Installs as we know them in W10/11 e.g. the upgrades from W7 to W8 to W8.1 to W10.

Windows 8 had a Refresh your PC option which was close to a Repair Install but had some limitations


Repair Installs were quietly introduced in Windows 10 and even now Ms do not openly publicise it. I never understood why a Repair Install is not part of "Reset My PC". Surely it cannot be that difficult to implement?

cereberus said:

I find this amusing as it is circular logic.

We have always described repair installs as being like doing a build upgrade except it reinstalls same version rather than new version keeping everything.

Of course, build upgrades pre-dated Repair Installs as we know them in W10/11 e.g. the upgrades from W7 to W8 to W8.1 to W10.

Windows 8 had a Refresh your PC option which was close to a Repair Install but had some limitations

Windows 8 Refresh: A great feature, if you know the limitations

Windows 8 Refresh lets you restore your Windows 8 PC to earlier state without destroying data, but beware hidden gotchas

www.infoworld.com

Repair Installs were quietly introduced in Windows 10 and even now Ms do not openly publicise it. I never understood why a Repair Install is not part of "Reset My PC". Surely it cannot be that difficult to implement?

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If I'm understanding correctly what a " Repair Install " is, it leaves the build and version exactly the same. The benefit of this method is that is cleans up the OS behind the scenes, sort of speak and all files and settings remain the same? Helpful if the user has been messing with the OS?

Dirtyflash said:

If I'm understanding correctly what a " Repair Install " is, it leaves the build and version exactly the same. The benefit of this method is that is cleans up the OS behind the scenes, sort of speak and all files and settings remain the same? Helpful if the user has been messing with the OS?

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Not exactly, it leaves the major build number e.g. 22621 the same but it will to revert to the sub build number that is built into the iso e.g. if your iso is 22621.1, it will reinstall to that sub version, and then you have to run Windows Update to get to latest version.

MS have now released iso 22621.160 and so, you would repair to latest version. MS do not always release new isos, so if you use official ones, they can be a few sub builds behind. This is not a big deal as it does not take long to get fully updated with normal cumulative updates.

You can nearly always get an iso of latest build using UUP e.g. UUP (Unified Update Platform) Generation Project (v2.4.18) [by @rgadguard & whatever127]

cereberus said:

Not exactly

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Thank you for the explanation, that clears thing up.