Known and Resolved issues for Windows 11 version 24H2

wowchick · Nov 4, 2024

havent gotton the new install yet, is there still issues with it if my pc hasnt gotton it yet? i am afraid to install it from their website

steveg · Nov 4, 2024

wowchick said:
havent gotton the new install yet, is there still issues with it if my pc hasnt gotton it yet? i am afraid to install it from their website

I have 2 machines on 23H2 working fine and have not been offered the update on either. Personally I see no urgency to update and going to wait until it is offered. If you do force the update be aware of some the issues people are experiencing and decide for yourself.

cute two · Nov 4, 2024

wowchick said:
havent gotton the new install yet, is there still issues with it if my pc hasnt gotton it yet? i am afraid to install it from their website

Almost every update there is an issues. If you wait for complete Windows, move to linux or other OS.

Scannerman · Nov 5, 2024

cute two said:
Almost every update there is an issues. If you wait for complete Windows, move to linux or other OS.

I moved back to Windows 8.1 on one of my PCs and WOW what a difference! Snappy, responsive, reliable, and no glitching. All the drivers work, no bangs in the device manager. Programs open on execution. (No waiting.) Just amazing. I don't know what makes Windows 11 run so crappy on the 4 other PCs I installed it on. My laptop was upgraded but I had to roll back to 23H2. Still not impressed. I don't expect Windows 12 will get any better either what with the Consortium catering to AI and all the Big Brother tech. Perhaps they'll have it all worked out in time to let us know that support for Windows 11 is about to end. After all, isn't that what they did with Win 10?

glasskuter · Nov 5, 2024

The entire 24h2 upgrade has been a fiasco IMO. The OS was rushed and not ready for prime time. Simple as that.

PvtJohnTowle · Nov 5, 2024

Scannerman said:
I moved back to Windows 8.1 on one of my PCs and WOW what a difference! Snappy, responsive, reliable, and no glitching. All the drivers work, no bangs in the device manager. Programs open on execution. (No waiting.) Just amazing. I don't know what makes Windows 11 run so crappy on the 4 other PCs I installed it on. My laptop was upgraded but I had to roll back to 23H2. Still not impressed. I don't expect Windows 12 will get any better either what with the Consortium catering to AI and all the Big Brother tech. Perhaps they'll have it all worked out in time to let us know that support for Windows 11 is about to end. After all, isn't that what they did with Win 10?

Comparison on Performance and Compatibility

Windows 8.1: Lightweight and runs well on older hardware, making it a good choice for legacy systems. However, it lacks the optimizations and improvements found in later Windows versions.
Windows 11: Optimized for modern processors, with better memory and resource management. It also supports DirectStorage, which speeds up game and app load times on SSDs, and is more secure with TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot requirements. However, older hardware may be incompatible with Windows 11’s requirements

Scannerman · Nov 5, 2024

glasskuter said:
The entire 24h2 upgrade has been a fiasco IMO. The OS was rushed and not ready for prime time. Simple as that.

Agreed. But, hey . . . It's only a "distro". More versions will come. Win 8 was a disaster until 8.1 was released. IMO Win 8.1 should have been named Windows 9. The reason's given don't wash. Win 8.1 was as different from Win 8 as Win 7 was different from Vista. But I digress. A man gets old and set in his ways. He gets accustomed to something that works for him and he wants to keep it. Sure, he may wish to make minor improvements and tweaks; perhaps he may even wish to personalize it a little. Yet he is happy with what he has and does not need it to be any faster, leaner, or meaner. That sort of man is a dinosaur. He is left on the wayside of oblivion and considered obsolete to make way for what some would regard "new and improved". Meanwhile support for that which works and works well is pulled. Time marches on and the wheel of progress continues to take whatever direction the Consortium deems worthy. Perhaps I have already said too much. Perhaps I haven't stated enough. We are all entitled to our opinions and I certainly agree with yours on this count.

PvtJohnTowle said:
Comparison on Performance and Compatibility

Windows 8.1: Lightweight and runs well on older hardware, making it a good choice for legacy systems. However, it lacks the optimizations and improvements found in later Windows versions.

Windows 11: Optimized for modern processors, with better memory and resource management. It also supports DirectStorage, which speeds up game and app load times on SSDs, and is more secure with TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot requirements. However, older hardware may be incompatible with Windows 11’s requirements

My finding is that the said optimizations and improvements found in later Windows versions are often buggy and unreliable. Some work well but many others are disastrous. Trust is a two-way street we are told, but the entire TPM thing was NOT designed so that the user could trust Windows but more the other way around. How many times has TPM been caught with her pants around her ankles? How many times has she had her keys stolen or has been flat out hacked? The girl has a history and her sister version two is no different in this regard. One would think that after a decade of consistent failure the Consortium would turn to a different security solution but it hasn't. No, it has shareholders to please. Trading off TPM1 for TPM2 is no assurance of security. What speeds up game and app loading times is better bandwidth and lower latency. This is attained through better hardware. I see no reason why software cannot be upgraded to comply with improvements in hardware by means of a simple update. After all, isn't this what actually occurs even when we upgrade to a different "distro", version, whatever?

What I find so deplorably laughable is when PCs not even three years old are rendered obsolete because the hardware isn't compliant with the newest version of Windows. That isn't a mistake. That's just the Consortium being environmentally conscious. They're very savvy about their financial environment after all. Who can blame them? We could all use a tax break.

pietcorus2 · Nov 7, 2024

Have to quit with several software ( "not compatible with 24H2 " ) , boottime takes 3 times longer compared with 23H2 , not interested in Copilot , IA ( AI?) , etc ...........
So, for me this upgrade is a big step back , my 23H2 boots faster , keeps my software intact , it just feels much better then this buggy/tricky 24H2 !
Will stay on 23H2 , maybe next year will try again............ :wink:

wowchick · Nov 7, 2024

glasskuter said:
The entire 24h2 upgrade has been a fiasco IMO. The OS was rushed and not ready for prime time. Simple as that.

one reason why i havent installed it yet or gotten it yet, don't want anymore problems so i am not upgrading yet

steveg · Nov 7, 2024

Honestly at this point if you choose to force install, before it being offered in WU, then you should consider yourself a beta tester. I'm sure MS would love to get more data on any machines that aren't playing nicely. I personally don't need the headaches right now. JMO.

Farquard · Nov 7, 2024

Guess, my Irish luck was still working. Have installed 24H2 on not only all of my "meets" the requirement systems, but also on many that do not, (both my own, and for friends whom I worked with at the IRS for many years) without a single problem.

steveg · Nov 7, 2024

Farquard said:
Guess, my Irish luck was still working. Have installed 24H2 on not only all of my "meets" the requirement systems, but also on many that do not, (both my own, and for friends whom I worked with at the IRS for many years) without a single problem.

Time to buy a lottery ticket!

Scannerman · Nov 7, 2024

steveg said:
Honestly at this point if you choose to force install, before it being offered in WU, then you should consider yourself a beta tester. I'm sure MS would love to get more data on any machines that aren't playing nicely. I personally don't need the headaches right now. JMO.

Here's the big secret most people are missing: After Microsoft fired their official beta testers the end users have been filling that position. When you think about it this is a very astute business decision. Today we pay Microsoft for the opportunity to beta test the operating systems that they consistently release prematurely. MS followed the Linux example and that's why we keep getting the distros.

cereberus · Nov 7, 2024

Scannerman said:
Today we pay Microsoft for the opportunity to beta test the operating systems that they consistently release prematurely. MS followed the Linux example and that's why we keep getting the distros.

What part of the statement "we pay Microsoft for the opportunity to beta test...." is remotely true?

Farquard · Nov 7, 2024

Scannerman said:
Here's the big secret most people are missing: After Microsoft fired their official beta testers the end users have been filling that position. When you think about it this is a very astute business decision. Today we pay Microsoft for the opportunity to beta test the operating systems that they consistently release prematurely. MS followed the Linux example and that's why we keep getting the distros.

I did beta testing of sorts for Microsoft at one time, when I was working for the IRS (before I got my Doctorate and CPA) to see if the IRS software would work. I still remember the old Beta Tester joke... "...DOS not done until Lotus won't run!...."

Marcus Vinicus · Nov 7, 2024

A question about the availability of 24H2. Has Microsoft force installed 24H2 onto user's computers? And has anyone had 24H2 force installed onto their computer by MS and had issues?

With my desktop it was offered as an optional upgrade initially and I chose to upgrade after making sure I had a full system backup of 23H2. On my new Asus laptop which is running 23H2, 24H2 has never been offered.

oldschool · Nov 7, 2024

I tried installing 24H2 with the Installation Assistant and went back to 23H2. Too many issues.

glockster · Nov 7, 2024

Anyone else having issues with apps being slow to open? UAC is particularly slow compared to what it was before 24H2. I have two machines that recently updated to 24H2. I was able to do a repair install on my desktop machine and resolve the lagginess, but my Dell laptop is still having issues, even after a fresh install.

I agree with glasskuter, this has been a fiasco!

dskiller · Nov 7, 2024

I upgraded my machine from windows 10 straight to windows 11 24h2 and went back to win 10 same day.

cons
chrome laggy
steam laggy.
other stuff laggy..
corel software laggy,

pros
it boots faster and login in faster..

specs
ryzen 5900x
132gb ddr 4 at 3200mhz
nvidia 4070

cant do clean install. it would be a nightmare as machine is used for gaming/workstation. and tons of stuff and different software activations.

I read that microsoft has intergrated Multiplane overlays more into 24h2 and its causing issues with flickering in browsers and steam among other things.
as soon as I saw "intergrated Multiplane overlays more" I was like oh no......

Farquard · Nov 7, 2024

I got an EARLY alpha copy of Windows 12 a couple of weeks ago. How is it? Well let me make it short... I keep a can of "RAID" next to the computer!

Summary	Originating update	Status	Last updated
Some Ubisoft games might stop responding on Windows 11, version 24H2 devices You might observe issues when starting, loading or during active gameplay. Some games might show a black screen.	N/A	Confirmed	2024-11-22 18:52 PT
USB devices that support eSCL scan protocol may not be discoverable USB standalone scanners are primarily affected, and compatibility hold has been applied to safeguard update experience.	N/A	Confirmed	2024-11-22 16:46 PT
Date & Time in Window Settings might not permit users to change time zone This issue is limited to the Date and Time view in Windows Settings. Time zone can still be changed in Control Panel.	N/A	Mitigated	2024-11-18 14:57 PT
Task Manager’s menu shows apps and processes with zero count This issue is observed when the "Group by Type" view is enabled after installing the October 2024 preview update.	OS Build 26100.2161 KB5044384 2024-10-24	Resolved KB5046617	2024-11-12 10:04 PT
Voicemeeter app might unexpectedly close causing a blue screen exception error Devices running the Voicemeeter application are incompatible with Windows 11, version 24H2	N/A	Resolved External	2024-11-08 09:57 PT
Fingerprint sensors might experience problems after a device is locked Several device models are affected. A compatibility hold is in place. Updating device firmware might resolve the issue.	N/A	Resolved KB5044284	2024-11-08 09:57 PT
Disk Cleanup might incorrectly report space available for cleanup Despite cleaning up files, the application might display an incorrect estimate of space still available for cleanup	N/A	Mitigated	2024-10-24 10:05 PT
Some ASUS devices might fail to install Windows 11, version 24H2 Affected devices encounter a blue screen with an error message during the update process	N/A	Confirmed	2024-10-18 14:02 PT
Camera use might cause some applications to become unresponsive Only a limited set of devices which use object recognition are confirmed to be impacted by this issue	N/A	Confirmed	2024-10-18 14:02 PT
Safe Exam Browser application might fail to open Devices running version 3.7 or lower versions of this application are incompatible with Windows 11, version 24H2.	N/A	Confirmed	2024-10-01 07:05 PT
Some devices using Easy Anti-Cheat stop responding and receive a blue screen Older driver versions of the Easy Anti-Cheat application are incompatible with Windows 11, version 24H2	N/A	Confirmed	2024-10-01 07:05 PT
Wallpaper customization applications might not work as expected Multiple applications are affected. A compatibility hold is in place. Updating applications might resolve the issue.	N/A	Confirmed	2024-10-01 07:05 PT
Compatibility issues with Intel Smart Sound Technology drivers Windows 11, version 24H2 devices with the affected Intel SST driver might receive an error with a blue screen.	N/A	Confirmed	2024-10-01 07:05 PT
Asphalt 8 might periodically stop responding Devices running Asphalt 8 might see an exception and compatibility hold has been applied to safeguard update experience.	N/A	Confirmed	2024-10-01 07:05 PT

Summary	Originating update	Status	Date resolved
Task Manager’s menu shows apps and processes with zero count This issue is observed when the "Group by Type" view is enabled after installing the October 2024 preview update.	OS Build 26100.2161 KB5044384 2024-10-24	Resolved KB5046617	2024-11-12 10:00 PT
Voicemeeter app might unexpectedly close causing a blue screen exception error Devices running the Voicemeeter application are incompatible with Windows 11, version 24H2	N/A	Resolved External	2024-11-08 09:57 PT
Fingerprint sensors might experience problems after a device is locked Several device models are affected. A compatibility hold is in place. Updating device firmware might resolve the issue.	N/A	Resolved KB5044284	2024-10-08 10:00 PT

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