Need To Perform A Repair Install On My Older Unsupported HP Desktop ?


Davy49

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Hi,
On HP 6000 SFF Desktop (Which Is A Unsupported PC) I'm currently running Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit edition, Version 22H2, OS Build 22621.1413 . I'm thinking that I originally used Rufus 3.21 to install the operating software on my computer, my current issue is the amount of time that my computer takes to restart after installing windows updates. I do in fact realize that I'm actually lucky to be able to run windows 11 pro on this older model desktop anyway, I don't know if by performing a repair install that would actually fix the restarting issue or not, on the computer in question it doesn't have a ssd installed on it because do to the age of the computer I don't see the need to do so. It would be so nice to be able to perform a repair install without losing any of my installed applications but I don't think that's possible in my particular case. I did in fact read all of the comments in this tutorial: Repair Install Windows 11 with an In-place Upgrade Tutorial Thanks in advance for any help that might be provided to me, if I could just get my computer to restart like it used to once upon a time I'd be very happy.
David :think:
 
Windows Build/Version
OS Build 22621.1413 / Version 22H2

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows11Pro(x64),(Version 23H2 ) (Build 22635.3350) (Feature Experience Pack 1000.22688.1001.0 )
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP/HP8300EliteSFF
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz
    Memory
    8.00 GB (7.88 GB usable)
  • Operating System
    Windows11Pro(x64),(Version 23H2 ) (Build 22635.3350) (Feature Experience Pack 1000.22688.1001.0 )
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo/T430
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3320M CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.60 GHz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 2349KB7
    Memory
    8.00 GB (7.82 GB usable)
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel (R) HD Graphics 4000
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Hard Drives
    SSD 222.79 GB
Even though Win-11 seems to be more efficient than previous versions of Windows, It's also Bigger. And Bigger can mean slower.
So an SSD and max ram can make it hum right along. I too have Win-11 running on an HP Slimline desktop PC, and it runs quite well.
So, if you can, max out the ram and add a little SSD and you should have a nice running little PC.

There are also, several tweaks that were originally written for earlier OS's, that can really improve the performance of Win-11.
If you run "MSCONFIG" from the RUN box, under the Boot tab, change the delay time from 30 seconds to just three seconds. That can speed up the boot time by 27 sec's. Remember to "Apply" the change!

Good Luck,
TM :cool:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-11/Pro/64, Optimum 11 V5, 23H2 22631.3374
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Made w/Gigabyte mobo/DX-10
    CPU
    AMD FX 6350 Six Core
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte, DX-10, GA-78LMT-USB3
    Memory
    Crucial, 16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDEA GeForce 210, 1GB DDR3 Ram.
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Acer
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Crucial SSD 500GB, SanDisk 126GB SSD, Toshiba 1TB HD
    PSU
    EVGA 500 W.
    Case
    Pac Man, Mid Tower
    Cooling
    AMD/OEM
    Keyboard
    101 key, Backlit/ Mechanical Switches/
    Mouse
    Logitech USB Wireless M310
    Internet Speed
    Hughes Net speed varies with the weather
    Browser
    Firefox 64x
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, Super Anti Spyware
    Other Info
    Given to me as DEAD, and irreparable.
    Rebuilt with Gigabyte mobo, AMD cpu, 16GB ram and 500GB Crucial SSD.
If your comouter is using a HDD then I agree with @TechnoMage2021 about upgrading to a SSD. I had a laptop that was very slow to boot up. Being a laptop the job was a pain but I upgraded it from the HDD to an SSD and I was shocked at how much faster it now is. I did the same with the AIO my wife use to have.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Before I upgraded my old pc, I also wondered if buying an ssd was worth it? Then I had the thought that when the day comes that I have to replace the pc with a “Windows 11 compatible” one, I can always use the ssd internally or externally. I picked one up on sale on Amazon, and it made a huge difference.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11/Linux Mint
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 960
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00 GHz x 2
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP x22LED
    Hard Drives
    Crucial 250 GB SSD, HD 1Tb
Even though Win-11 seems to be more efficient than previous versions of Windows, It's also Bigger. And Bigger can mean slower.
So an SSD and max ram can make it hum right along. I too have Win-11 running on an HP Slimline desktop PC, and it runs quite well.
So, if you can, max out the ram and add a little SSD and you should have a nice running little PC.

There are also, several tweaks that were originally written for earlier OS's, that can really improve the performance of Win-11.
If you run "MSCONFIG" from the RUN box, under the Boot tab, change the delay time from 30 seconds to just three seconds. That can speed up the boot time by 27 sec's. Remember to "Apply" the change!

Good Luck,
TM :cool:
Hello,
Thanks so much for your response, and of course not trying to be rude in anyway I'm already aware of that particular setting, but I don't think it has anything to with the issue I first posted about, but then again I could be totally incorrect.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows11Pro(x64),(Version 23H2 ) (Build 22635.3350) (Feature Experience Pack 1000.22688.1001.0 )
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP/HP8300EliteSFF
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz
    Memory
    8.00 GB (7.88 GB usable)
  • Operating System
    Windows11Pro(x64),(Version 23H2 ) (Build 22635.3350) (Feature Experience Pack 1000.22688.1001.0 )
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo/T430
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3320M CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.60 GHz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 2349KB7
    Memory
    8.00 GB (7.82 GB usable)
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel (R) HD Graphics 4000
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Hard Drives
    SSD 222.79 GB
Hi,
I use only sata ssd's but they can only do so much before cpu/ amount of memory kick in as needing more especially cpu threads and frequency goes.

All mine are upgrades from 10 I never clean installed any of them refresh install so besides a couple apps needing to be fixed everything is good.
Things you can try to in cmd as admin
Code:
sfc /scannow

DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup

DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-7-10-11Pro's
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer 17" Nitro 7840sn/ 2x16gb 5600c40/ 4060/ stock 1tb-os/ 4tb sn850x
    CPU
    10900k & 9940x & 5930k
    Motherboard
    z490-Apex & x299-Apex & x99-Sabertooth
    Memory
    Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb & 3200c14 4x8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Titan Xp & 1080ti FTW3 & evga 980ti gaming
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek x3
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
    Screen Resolution
    1920-1080 not sure what the t.v is besides 43" class scales from 1920-1080 perfectly
    Hard Drives
    2-WD-sn850x 4tb/ 970evo+500gb/ 980 pro 2tb.
    PSU
    1000p2 & 1200p2 & 850p2
    Case
    D450 x2 & 1 Test bench in cherry Entertainment center
    Cooling
    Custom water loops x3 with 2x mora 360mm rads only 980ti gaming air cooled
    Keyboard
    G710+x3
    Mouse
    Redragon x3
    Internet Speed
    xfinity gigabyte
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    mbam pro
The poster's question is how to do a repair install on unsupported hardware.
A repair install is the exact same thing as an upgrade.
I create my Windows 11 install media using Rufus setting its options to bypass tpm and cpu requirements.
This media can be used for a clean install or repair install.
For repair install, mount the usb drive in explorer, click on setup and away you go.

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 +256gb ssd+512 gb usb m.2 sata
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
Hello,
Thanks so much for your response, and of course not trying to be rude in anyway I'm already aware of that particular setting, but I don't think it has anything to with the issue I first posted about, but then again I could be totally incorrect.
Hi,
If you're still using a old hard drive you're mistaken
Sata ssd will make a large difference like night and day difference

Personal file storage can still be on hdd so even a 250gb ssd can really help.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-7-10-11Pro's
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer 17" Nitro 7840sn/ 2x16gb 5600c40/ 4060/ stock 1tb-os/ 4tb sn850x
    CPU
    10900k & 9940x & 5930k
    Motherboard
    z490-Apex & x299-Apex & x99-Sabertooth
    Memory
    Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb & 3200c14 4x8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Titan Xp & 1080ti FTW3 & evga 980ti gaming
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek x3
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
    Screen Resolution
    1920-1080 not sure what the t.v is besides 43" class scales from 1920-1080 perfectly
    Hard Drives
    2-WD-sn850x 4tb/ 970evo+500gb/ 980 pro 2tb.
    PSU
    1000p2 & 1200p2 & 850p2
    Case
    D450 x2 & 1 Test bench in cherry Entertainment center
    Cooling
    Custom water loops x3 with 2x mora 360mm rads only 980ti gaming air cooled
    Keyboard
    G710+x3
    Mouse
    Redragon x3
    Internet Speed
    xfinity gigabyte
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    mbam pro
Hi All,
I really do appreciate & am grateful for all of the replies that I've received, yet again I'm so very grateful that this wonderful forum exists. I'm typing this comment on my lenovo laptop that is newer than the desktop that I first posted about, it does in fact have a ssd installed in it and for sure it does make a big difference as far as speed goes. I hope everyone has a safe & enjoyable weekend.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows11Pro(x64),(Version 23H2 ) (Build 22635.3350) (Feature Experience Pack 1000.22688.1001.0 )
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP/HP8300EliteSFF
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz
    Memory
    8.00 GB (7.88 GB usable)
  • Operating System
    Windows11Pro(x64),(Version 23H2 ) (Build 22635.3350) (Feature Experience Pack 1000.22688.1001.0 )
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo/T430
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3320M CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.60 GHz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 2349KB7
    Memory
    8.00 GB (7.82 GB usable)
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel (R) HD Graphics 4000
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Hard Drives
    SSD 222.79 GB
Hi,
Yeah sata ssd's are dirt cheap now days
1tb WD blue ssd for like 55.us

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-7-10-11Pro's
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer 17" Nitro 7840sn/ 2x16gb 5600c40/ 4060/ stock 1tb-os/ 4tb sn850x
    CPU
    10900k & 9940x & 5930k
    Motherboard
    z490-Apex & x299-Apex & x99-Sabertooth
    Memory
    Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb & 3200c14 4x8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Titan Xp & 1080ti FTW3 & evga 980ti gaming
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek x3
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
    Screen Resolution
    1920-1080 not sure what the t.v is besides 43" class scales from 1920-1080 perfectly
    Hard Drives
    2-WD-sn850x 4tb/ 970evo+500gb/ 980 pro 2tb.
    PSU
    1000p2 & 1200p2 & 850p2
    Case
    D450 x2 & 1 Test bench in cherry Entertainment center
    Cooling
    Custom water loops x3 with 2x mora 360mm rads only 980ti gaming air cooled
    Keyboard
    G710+x3
    Mouse
    Redragon x3
    Internet Speed
    xfinity gigabyte
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    mbam pro
You can go at Settings, Windows Update, Advanced Settings and enable to be notified when a restart is needed. So you may postpone it and do it at the night when you don't use the computer, so you don't mind about the time it takes to complete. You can also change working hours, I have set mine 8:00-0:00 to make sure it never happens during the day. Also I agree that an SSD makes a huge difference, much more than doubling the RAM. If you can do both, even better.

Further tip to speedup your computer, disable all visual effects such as transparency, animations and fades. Go at Settings, Accessibility, Visual Effects and disable Transparency and Fades. Next go to Settings, System, Info, Advanced system settings. Go to Performance tab and uncheck animations and other useless effects. The speed difference is very noticeable. Been there done that. Some would also suggest to remove wallpaper and set a solid color, but I think this is too much.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 64-bit (build 22631.3374)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v23H2 (build 22631.3374)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
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