planning to replace my 1TB "spinning" hard disk drive


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"should I Initialize" YES, but how? in a USB case?

Frank,

I just got hold of a brand new uninitialised disk.

I deliberately left it uninitialised so I could test system image recovery on it.
1 Acronis True image could not restore a disk image to it. It could not see it as an available target disk; it could not see it at all.
2 Macrium reflect could see the uninitialised disk and did successfully restore a system image to it.
I don't have any Windows backup & restore system images so I could not test that.

I now believe that those tiny red down-arrows you illustrated all that time ago are indicators of a need to right-click & carry out some obligatory action. In my case it was right-click & initialise.
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Now I've got to clear the disk out so I can do what I actually wanted with it.
Fortunately, I have MiniTool Partition Wizard & EaseUS Partition Master because Disk mgmt cannot delete its EFI & recovery partitions.

All the best,
Denis
 

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Frank,

I just got hold of a brand new uninitialised disk.

I deliberately left it uninitialised so I could test system image recovery on it.
1 Acronis True image could not restore a disk image to it. It could not see it as an available target disk; it could not see it at all.
2 Macrium reflect could see the uninitialised disk and did successfully restore a system image to it.
I don't have any Windows backup & restore system images so I could not test that.

I now believe that those tiny red down-arrows you illustrated all that time ago are indicators of a need to right-click & carry out some obligatory action. In my case it was right-click & initialise.
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Now I've got to clear the disk out so I can do what I actually wanted with it.
Fortunately, I have MiniTool Partition Wizard & EaseUS Partition Master because Disk mgmt cannot delete its EFI & recovery partitions.

All the best,
Denis
Hi Denis,
Got the new spinning HDD and it was not yet initialized, so I did that with Disk Manager but did not format the new drive yet, Simple Volume, NTFS, D: (I will change that to C: after installing). Note the 50% faster write speed on the winsat test of the Toshiba and HWINFO detected a temperature sensor (I like that). The "Uncorrectable Errors" is still on 14 on my old Seagate so I wait replacing the drive till that gets higher or other SMART errors appear. The Toshiba is brand new and in top condition but too slow for you guys. I believe that Windows RE will detect the drive?
Frank
 

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I have yet to receive my new Samsung 870 EVO 1TB SSD, so I don't know yet how hot it may get in my Aspire A315-23. As this is a 2.5" SATA drive and fits in the space where an HDD had been I would expect there to be enough air space around it to keep it cool enough.

What I can say that I've had an 860 EVO 500GB running in a Dell Latitude E7440 for some three years now.

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In that time it has stayed well within its operating specs.

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Nice, my new spinning drive has a maximum temp. of only 60°C but I have not seen my present HDD even getting warm (no temp. sensor on my old drive). I don't know about your A315 but my a515 has a very thin, flimsy, plastic bottom attached with 11 screws (not kidding) I just replaced the bottom cover (screws busted and cover did not snap anymore) and the plastic was peeling (burned) inside above the heat sink, I don't think I want a 2.5" SATA SSD (even with thermal pads) that may run hot in the tropics (I work outside, no aircon during the day). the small NV SSDs get also hot and require heat sinks. Those are my 2 biggest complaints about my Acer 515, plastic body and fragile (metal) hinge footings that detach after 2 years daily use. My lid (screen) is metal. I also could not get an IPS panel in the Philippines mine is TN and very dim outside. My next laptop will be a DELL XPS 15, OLED or 500 nits FHD.
 

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I will change that to C: after installing
Windows will do that for you.
After you restore the system image to it then fit it & Windows boots from it, it will call it the C:\ drive.

I also have screws galore. 19 screws to remove & replace to fit my new disk [same number as swapping over my main battery].

Best of luck,
Denis
 

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I just got hold of a brand new uninitialised disk.

I deliberately left it uninitialised so I could test system image recovery on it.....
1 Acronis True image could not restore a disk image to it. It could not see it as an available target disk; it could not see it at all.
2 Macrium reflect could see the uninitialised disk and did successfully restore a system image to it.

....Now I've got to clear the disk out so I can do what I actually wanted with it.
I have just received the new 1TB SSD to replace the perfectly sound but slow HDD in my System One. I too restored a Macrium image to the uninitialised SSD without a problem.

Nice, my new spinning drive has a maximum temp. of only 60°C but I have not seen my present HDD even getting warm (no temp. sensor on my old drive). I don't know about your A315 but my a515 has a very thin, flimsy, plastic bottom attached with 11 screws (not kidding) I just replaced the bottom cover (screws busted and cover did not snap anymore) and the plastic was peeling (burned) inside above the heat sink, I don't think I want a 2.5" SATA SSD (even with thermal pads) that may run hot in the tropics....

Well, I've transfer the image of my HDD and swapped in the SSD now. Only 10 screws for my cover, another 4 to remove the drive mount assembly, and 4 more holding the drive in its mount frame. This is the 3rd time I've opened the cover and it's still intact.

Been running with the SSD for and hour an a half now. Temperatures seem pretty stable....

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I have just received the new 1TB SSD to replace the perfectly sound but slow HDD in my System One. I too restored a Macrium image to the uninitialised SSD without a problem.



Well, I've transfer the image of my HDD and swapped in the SSD now. Only 10 screws for my cover, another 4 to remove the drive mount assembly, and 4 more holding the drive in its mount frame. This is the 3rd time I've opened the cover and it's still intact.

Been running with the SSD for and hour an a half now. Temperatures seem pretty stable....

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Very appealing, I may give that a try if this mechanical drive is too slow, I noticed that all posters restore to your new drives externally, what are the cons and pros restoring a blank drive internally with a USB recovery drive like I plan to do, or has no one tried that?
 

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Windows will do that for you.
After you restore the system image to it then fit it & Windows boots from it, it will call it the C:\ drive.

I also have screws galore. 19 screws to remove & replace to fit my new disk [same number as swapping over my main battery].

Best of luck,
Denis
You mean fit the blank initialized drive first, boot with the recovery USB thumb drive and restore from the external drive with the backup?
 

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Windows will do that for you.
After you restore the system image to it then fit it & Windows boots from it, it will call it the C:\ drive.

I also have screws galore. 19 screws to remove & replace to fit my new disk [same number as swapping over my main battery].

Best of luck,
Denis

It should have the same os letter that it had when you made the image. Not every windows installation has os letter C.
Though it sounds like Frank's was and therefore will still be after restore.

If you want to have a play:

run setup.exe from within your current os ( which is probably C:) select Custom instead of Upgrade and point it at a different partition. Then boot into that new installation and see what os letter it has.
 
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I noticed that all posters restore to your new drives externally, what are the cons and pros restoring a blank drive internally with a USB recovery drive like I plan to do, or has no one tried that?
After I had made the system image of my HDD using the Windows and Macrium Reflect that was installed on it I had a choice:
  • put the new SDD in an external case, restore to it within Windows using the installed Reflect while still running from the HDD, then swap the drives.
  • swap the drives first then boot from a Reflect recovery USB and do the restore last.
I choose to do the restore to the uninitialised SSD in an external usb case purely because it was more convenient. The end result should be exactly the same either way.

Also, attaching it as an external drive gave me the opportunity to check it out before anything had been written to it. It had only been powered up once before I got it.

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I've put 10 hours and 295GB of Host Writes on it since then :wink:
 
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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.
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    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

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I ran the samsung speed test or whatever it is called on a 870 evo 1tb before doing anything else, 0gb written. Afterwards it said there was 32gb written. That is more than I had expected to write for the test. I haven't used it since. It is my spare.
 

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@Bree
"I choose to do the restore to the uninitialised SSD in an external usb case purely because it was more convenient. The end result should be exactly the same either way."

IMO your method is slower with an older (internal) mechanical HDD as it involves:
  • Running Windows 11 OS with Macrium, or other program on the internal HDD, that requires experience/correct settings vs. mini WinPE that runs on a USB thumb drive.
  • Extra transfer of 100s GB of data from your internal HDD and cache through a 2nd USB interface/cables to the target drive.
  • Possible ambiguity with the C: or D: naming when installing and booting the new internal drive?
 

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I think they are talking about nvme ssd getting hot. Sata ssd should be fine. I have no idea if Frank's model supports nvme.
This is what a somewhat outdated manual states about a NV SSD and Crucial claims to have a whole serie up to 1TB tested for my model:
Crucial NV SSD for Acer a515
The picture of my laptop shows the empty space above the right (bottom) speaker and the connector.
I am now in favor of a 2.5" SATA SSD like Bree just installed, if it stays cool.....
 

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This is what a somewhat outdated manual states about a NV SSD and Crucial claims to have a whole serie up to 1TB tested for my model:
Crucial NV SSD for Acer a515
The picture of my laptop shows the empty space above the right (bottom) speaker and the connector.
I am now in favor of a 2.5" SATA SSD like Bree just installed, if it stays cool.....




The 2.5" SSDs don't even think about getting hot.
They run cooler than hard drives.

Granted, this is a desktop, but look at these temps...
This is one of two Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" SSDs

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    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?183088-5000-B-E-on-M2N32-SLI-Dlx-Overclocked&p=2891724#post2891724

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I have just received the new 1TB SSD to replace the perfectly sound but slow HDD in my System One. I too restored a Macrium image to the uninitialised SSD without a problem.



Well, I've transfer the image of my HDD and swapped in the SSD now. Only 10 screws for my cover, another 4 to remove the drive mount assembly, and 4 more holding the drive in its mount frame. This is the 3rd time I've opened the cover and it's still intact.

Been running with the SSD for and hour an a half now. Temperatures seem pretty stable....

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Well you got me hooked if that EVO temp stays down like that. The cheapest here in the Philippines is US$ 110 and half of that for the 550GB model. I will watch your temp. and if it does not get above 38°C I will order one and keep my Toshiba mechanical drive as backup, weird that Acer Support (Philippines) never mentioned this 2.5" SSD SATA as an option, maybe they are still testing it....
 

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    Acer/Aspire5 515-54G-70AG
    CPU
    Intel i7-10510U CPU 1.8 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Intel Comet Lake-U PCH-LP Premium
    Memory
    8 GB 1333.3 MHz Dual channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD + NVIDIA GeForce MX250
    Sound Card
    RealTek ALC255 chipset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Full HD TN 16"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 220 NITS
    Hard Drives
    SATA mechanical 1TB TOSHIBA HDWL110 X1UGPHELT 5600 rpm
    PSU
    Murata battery AP18C4k (31CP5/81/68) Li-Polymer Battery Pack, full capacity 46620 mWh 11.4V
    Case
    plastic with metal panel lid
    Cooling
    1 fan
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    Precision Trackpad
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    15 mb/s
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The 2.5" SSDs don't even think about getting hot.
They run cooler than hard drives.

Granted, this is a desktop, but look at these temps...
This is a Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" SSD

View attachment 37675
....and inside in a cool room. What about in a cramped ultra slim laptop that only has 1 fan and outside in the tropics?. But I am inclined to buy one now, Bree convinced me.:unsure:
 

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    Laptop
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    Acer/Aspire5 515-54G-70AG
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    Intel i7-10510U CPU 1.8 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Intel Comet Lake-U PCH-LP Premium
    Memory
    8 GB 1333.3 MHz Dual channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD + NVIDIA GeForce MX250
    Sound Card
    RealTek ALC255 chipset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Full HD TN 16"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 220 NITS
    Hard Drives
    SATA mechanical 1TB TOSHIBA HDWL110 X1UGPHELT 5600 rpm
    PSU
    Murata battery AP18C4k (31CP5/81/68) Li-Polymer Battery Pack, full capacity 46620 mWh 11.4V
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    1 fan
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....and inside in a cool room. What about in a cramped ultra slim laptop that only has 1 fan and outside in the tropics?. But I am inclined to buy one now, Bree convinced me.:unsure:


I "didn't" buy M.2 SSDs, even for a desktop, because of the heat they generate.
I'm a big fan of 2.5" SSDs, as I mentioned back in post #10. :-)

And this was the cheapest I decent one could find (in the Philippines)...




There are cheaper ones, but I tend to stick with Crucial or Samsung.
They both have a really good track record.




Same list sorted for 1TB or bigger...




M.2 SSDs are a lot faster than 2.5" SSDs...
but outside of a few applications, you really won't notice the speed difference.
On a 2.5" SSD, my computer can restart in 40 seconds (via stop watch).

That's from the time I click on Restart, until I can start using programs on my desktop again.

I just timed it again... 36 seconds to desktop, and open browser.


Speeding SSD.png
 
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    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22621.819 ♦♦♦♦♦♦22H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4201)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
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    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
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    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
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    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
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    Internet Speed
    100/100
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    Bitdefender Internet Security
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    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
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    PC/Desktop
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    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
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    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
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    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
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    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?183088-5000-B-E-on-M2N32-SLI-Dlx-Overclocked&p=2891724#post2891724

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And yet there are hundreds of thousands NVMe SSDs installed without regards to heat problems, including the two 512GB NVMe SSDs in the laptop I am posting this from. Just sayin' it doesn't seem to be a common concern.

But, I know, like my mama used to say, "If a thousand people jumped off a cliff and died, would you too just because the other thousand did?"
 

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    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
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And yet there are hundreds of thousands NVMe SSDs installed without regards to heat problems, including the two 512GB NVMe SSDs in the laptop I am posting this from. Just sayin' it doesn't seem to be a common concern.

But, I know, like my mama used to say, "If a thousand people jumped off a cliff and died, would you too just because the other thousand did?"



I'm old fashioned. I always choose whatever components run coolest.
I don't think "pushing the envelope" is a worthwhile pastime... unless it's "needed" for some reason.
Personally... I haven't seen a need.

But that's just me. Others may see a need?
 

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    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22621.819 ♦♦♦♦♦♦22H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
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    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4201)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    100/100
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
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    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    100/100
    Browser
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?183088-5000-B-E-on-M2N32-SLI-Dlx-Overclocked&p=2891724#post2891724

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I'm old fashioned. I always choose whatever components run coolest.
I don't think "pushing the envelope" is a worthwhile pastime... unless it's "needed" for some reason.
Personally... I haven't seen a need.

But that's just me. Others may see a need?
Does the fact that my laptop only has two m.2 slots and no SATA port count as a need?
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
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    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22621.819 ♦♦♦♦♦♦22H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4201)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    100/100
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    100/100
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?183088-5000-B-E-on-M2N32-SLI-Dlx-Overclocked&p=2891724#post2891724

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