POLL: Would you pay for a Windows 12 subscription?

antspants · Oct 9, 2023

Scannerman said:
Remember when Win 10 was supposed to be the final cut?

I think that was a comment made by an MS employee that had no authority to be making any comment at all outside of his actual job description. Even still, believe me, I don’t believe anything any time all of the time sometimes.

pparks1 said:
..nor would I want to be stuck with a specific version forever. Change is constant.

nor I.

Scannerman · Oct 9, 2023

pparks1 said:
that was said by an employee and never corroborated by Microsoft. Never believed that for a minute..nor would I want to be stuck with a specific version forever. Change is constant.

I never believed it either. Still, I was surprised to see that this claim lasted so long without any apparent challenge to the contrary on the part of Microsoft.

Scannerman · Oct 9, 2023

antspants said:
I think that was a comment made by an MS employee that had no authority to be making any comment at all outside of his actual job description. Even still, believe me, I don’t believe anything any time all of the time sometimes.

nor I.

As I stated recently, in another post, Windows is a work in progress (or regress).

larc919 · Oct 9, 2023

Absolutely no way! I would stick with 10/11.

Wynona · Oct 9, 2023

Scannerman said:
Meh. I'm still struggling with 10 and 11 buggaboos. Nothing huge. Just very annoying things. I've resigned myself to the belief that Windows is always a work in progress (or regress) and I just have to roll (role?) with the punches. I can put up or shut up or do both, but Windows is as Windows does and no amount of bellyaching or complaining will change it. It's a bit like the climate: If you stick around long enough it will change. This beat goes on.

Roll with the punches is correct.

intransitive verb

To move forward along a surface by revolving on an axis or by repeatedly turning over.
To travel or be moved on wheels or rollers.
To travel around; wander.

IOW, your car wheels roll . . . Or, you can roll down a hill.

Role is a part one plays.

noun

A character or part played by a performer.
The characteristic and expected social behavior of an individual.
A function or position. synonym: function.

My role is to teach my students how to get around in Windows 11.

And now, to your broader statement . . . For what it's worth, I don't have any real problems with Windows 11; I just don't like it that MS has depracated a lot of really good features.

Melchior · Oct 9, 2023

whaaaaat?!
a sub? no way.. I will stick with Win11 for desktop and Win10 for laptop..

Wynona · Oct 9, 2023

antspants said:
I think that was a comment made by an MS employee that had no authority to be making any comment at all outside of his actual job description. Even still, believe me, I don’t believe anything any time all of the time sometimes.

nor I.

Exactly, but you're not going to convince some folks of that! Their take is that it's on the Internet, so it's gotta be the truth. It came from Microsoft Officialdom!

Having worked with Microsoft betas since sometime around 1985 or so, I've seen all the rumors attributed to Microsoft, and there are some doozies.

antspants · Oct 10, 2023

Wynona said:
Exactly, but you're not going to convince some folks of that! Their take is that it's on the Internet, so it's gotta be the truth. It came from Microsoft Officialdom!

Having worked with Microsoft betas since sometime around 1985 or so, I've seen all the rumors attributed to Microsoft, and there are some doozies.

No doubt.

Daz1967 · Oct 10, 2023

If it was a subscription model then the cost of using Windows would be far more than the cost of buying a licence in my opinion so I'd have to vote no. I'd just stick with Windows 11 for as long as possible then look into options on how to install Windows 12 for, ahem, 'free'.

Not that I advocate piracy in any form but unless there was an option to purchase outright then I absolutely would not want to paying yet another monthly subscription on top of all the others I have.

FerchogtX · Oct 10, 2023

Daz1967 said:
If it was a subscription model then the cost of using Windows would be far more than the cost of buying a licence in my opinion so I'd have to vote no. I'd just stick with Windows 11 for as long as possible then look into options on how to install Windows 12 for, ahem, 'free'.

Not that I advocate piracy in any form but unless there was an option to purchase outright then I absolutely would not want to paying yet another monthly subscription on top of all the others I have.

Why bother? Just use Linux and a VM and you get the best of two worlds. They don't deserve EVEN the piracy attention going that route...

SlicEnDicE · Oct 10, 2023

FerchogtX said:
Why bother? Just use Linux and a VM

You would still have to pay for the license. In the terms, a VM and physical hardware are two separate entities and you have to buy a license for both, even if running on same physical machine.

Daz1967 · Oct 10, 2023

FerchogtX said:
Why bother? Just use Linux and a VM and you get the best of two worlds. They don't deserve EVEN the piracy attention going that route...

Well I use my PC for games so Linux holds no appeal for me given how few games run on that operating system. If you want to play games on a PC then owning Windows is a must in my experience.

Ghot · Oct 10, 2023

Microsoft's Windows 12 sales pitch...

TechnoMage2021 · Oct 10, 2023

Wynona, what MS OS were you using in 1985? Or should I say "What version of DOS?"

I started with MS DOS 2.0 in the early 80's. Got it from a friend on a Floppy Disk, and I've not bought an OS since then.

SlicEnDicE · Oct 10, 2023

Daz1967 said:
Well I use my PC for games so Linux holds no appeal for me given how few games run on that operating system. If you want to play games on a PC then owning Windows is a must in my experience.

Most Windows games runs fine under Linux. Only games with heavy anti-cheat engines does NOT work on Linux, but Steam/Proton team is working on that too. Some Windows games even run better on Linux, even with the Proton translation layer in between, most games however run at about 80% of the speed compared to native Windows experience.

FerchogtX · Oct 11, 2023

SlicEnDicE said:
You would still have to pay for the license. In the terms, a VM and physical hardware are two separate entities and you have to buy a license for both, even if running on same physical machine.

You can always use your Microsoft account to transfer that license... :wink:

SlicEnDicE · Oct 11, 2023

FerchogtX said:
You can always use your Microsoft account to transfer that license...

Sure, if you bought a retail license. OEM licenses aren't transferable according to MS lic.terms. Although there's a way...and MS isn't enforcing their own rules that strictly.

TechnoMage2021 · Oct 11, 2023

What's all this crap about Licenses?
Life is too short to worry about things like that.

TraderGary · Oct 11, 2023

TechnoMage2021 said:
What's all this crap about Licenses?
Life is too short to worry about things like that.

Try that line on the cop that just pulled you over!

antspants · Oct 11, 2023

TraderGary said:
Try that line on the cop that just pulled you over!

I’ve never had a drivers license. In the 80’s, lines like that, where I came from sometimes worked. Cops were to lazy too write it up. Now, I’ve been to court a few times and cops don’t have a sense of humour, either do Judges, apparently.