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I recently noticed I have two recovery partitions. One on my boot drive and another on a backup. I understand how this can happen so that is not my question.

I was able to re-establish and verify the recovery partition on my boot drive. I understand the purpose of the recovery partition and that it also may not be necessary.

What I would like to learn is this:

"If a functioning recovery partition exists on a physical drive, is "C:\Recovery\WindowsRe\winre.win" still needed?

Your thoughts and expertise are welcome.
Thanks James
 

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MachineLanguage said:
I recently noticed I have two recovery partitions. One on my boot drive and another on a backup. I understand how this can happen so that is not my question.

I was able to re-establish and verify the recovery partition on my boot drive. I understand the purpose of the recovery partition and that it also may not be necessary.

What I would like to learn is this:

"If a functioning recovery partition exists on a physical drive, is "C:\Recovery\WindowsRe\winre.win" still needed?

Your thoughts and expertise are welcome.
Thanks James
Click to expand...
Run "reagentc /info" from a command prompt and post image as well as image of partition layout.
 

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Well, your setup is fine, you really do not need a recovery partition as it is active ob C drive.. Not obvious perhaps but Windows is partition 3 as there is a hidden MSR partition of 16MB that is between the EFI partition and C drive.

All other recovery partitions are redundant and can be removed.

With a bit of effort you can move winre.wim to a separate partition but hardly worth the effort
 

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cereberus said:
Well, your setup is fine, you really do not need a recovery partition as it is active ob C drive.. Not obvious perhaps but Windows is partition 3 as there is a hidden MSR partition of 16MB that is between the EFI partition and C drive.

All other recovery partitions are redundant and can be removed.

With a bit of effort you can move winre.wim to a separate partition but hardly worth the effort
Click to expand...

Thank you for taking the time to review.
I agree I can remove the additional recovery partition on "E Drive".

I have no urgency or reason to delete "C:\Recovery\WindowsRe\winre.win" I just want to understand its full purpose. Plenty of literature available but still looking for that one detail.
Thanks
 

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It’s been a while for me so happy to be corrected.
Did you try to fix or do something to that 2GB partition to the right of C? I don’t believe that is a proper recovery partition most likely there has been no recovery attributes applied. In fact I don’t think that 2GB partition is recognised at all by Disk Management.
 

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I’m looking at the wrong partition. Still, shouldn’t partition 3 be labled as recovery?
 

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    5 x LG 25MS500-B - 1 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
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Folks I appreciate the interest my post has generated but I am not necessarily looking for suggestions regarding "how to "fix my problem." My configuration works. I am just looking for an answer to the question.
Thanks.
 

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    1TB Crucial NVMe
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    32G
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    Beelink SER7
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    Dell
    Screen Resolution
    Native
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    1TB Crucial NVMe SSD 2G SATA
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    Beelink Proprietary
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    Beelink Proprietary
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    gaming keyboard
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    MS
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