Some questions about windows 11

Gregory · Nov 7, 2023

Can someone help me fix that issue became the latest ms win11 updates?
I try these:
01. Remove some updates
02. Re-installing the explorer.exe
03. Boot at safe boot(Then it work fine the explorer with the toolbar and everything) but at normal boot not.

Please help me.

hdmi · Nov 8, 2023

Like I explained in my post #112, completely disabling all Windows updates neither is recommended unless maybe you really know what you're doing (and that's still only a big maybe) nor is possible to achieve (at least not without hacking Windows, it isn't possible). My own personal conclusion was/is that the easiest bestest solution to tackle the problem of File Explorer behaving like it got infected by some malware produced by Microsoft (yuppers, it is what it is, and I apologize for my doing it on purpose...) is this:

ExplorerPatcher (on GitHub) ➜ go to Properties ➜ File Explorer ➜ Control Interface: Windows 10 Ribbon

Gregory · Nov 8, 2023

Already try clean boot and disable all services.
Only at safe boot the explorer has toolbar as it is the normal at normal boot doesn't have any toolbar.

hdmi · Nov 9, 2023

Gregory said:
Already try clean boot and disable all services.
Only at safe boot the explorer has toolbar as it is the normal at normal boot doesn't have any toolbar.

By "toolbar", I guess you mean the Windows 10 Ribbon. (On Windows 11, File Explorer has a Command bar instead of the Ribbon.) To bring back the Ribbon, download and install ExplorerPatcher from here (click on Releases in the column on the right, and look under Assets | ep_setup.exe). Next, right-click on the taskbar and choose Properties, go to the File Explorer section in the settings window panel that appears. In there, you can change Control Interface to Windows 10 Ribbon. Finally, it needs to restart explorer, as noted by the asterisk (*) sign. For this, click on Restart File Explorer (on the bottom left).

Gregory · Nov 9, 2023

Thanks it half fixed
What i mean. When i choose the win10 ribbon it appear it normal at the windows explorer but when i choose win11 it appear it until i restart the pc.
And when i uninstall this app any changes i make at windows explorer don't exist and return to the preview don't working state.

And now one more this appear.
Mouse right click don't work at windows explorer.

hdmi · Nov 9, 2023

Gregory said:
Thanks it half fixed
What i mean. When i choose the win10 ribbon it appear it normal at the windows explorer but when i choose win11 it appear it until i restart the pc.

This is why I said to choose the Windows 10 Ribbon.

Gregory said:
And when i uninstall this app any changes i make at windows explorer don't exist and return to the preview don't working state.

So don't uninstall it then?

Gregory said:
And now one more this appear.
Mouse right click don't work at windows explorer.

Go to Properties ➜ File Explorer ➜ click on Disable the Windows 11 context menu*. Next, click on Restart File Explorer (*) on the bottom left again.

Gregory · Nov 9, 2023

I want to fix this issue not to half fixed.
I want the windows explorer work fine without any other program must be installed.

Do you have an idea why is this issue happened from the beggining?

hdmi · Nov 9, 2023

Gregory said:
I want to fix this issue not to half fixed.
I want the windows explorer work fine without any other program must be installed.

So use the Feedback Hub and keep on praying.

Gregory said:
Do you have an idea why is this issue happened from the beggining?

Because Microsoft.

hdmi · Nov 9, 2023

dacrone · Nov 9, 2023

hdmi said:
Like I explained in my post #112, completely disabling all Windows updates neither is recommended unless maybe you really know what you're doing (and that's still only a big maybe) nor is possible to achieve (at least not without hacking Windows, it isn't possible). My own personal conclusion was/is that the easiest bestest solution to tackle the problem of File Explorer behaving like it got infected by some malware produced by Microsoft (yuppers, it is what it is, and I apologize for my doing it on purpose...) is this:

ExplorerPatcher (on GitHub) ➜ go to Properties ➜ File Explorer ➜ Control Interface: Windows 10 Ribbon

you can disable updates easily via services...

How to disable Windows Update in Windows 10 RTM

If you cannot tolerate the automatic update behavior in Windows 10, here is what you can do to stop and disable Windows Update in Windows 10 RTM.

winaero.com

although it isn't advised. use the GP method and set it to notify only, so you will at least know when there are updates and what updates they are. And yes, you can use GP in Win Home OS. (don't remember where i acquired this set of commands. was in my notes on my NAS)

Sign in as an Administrator
Open Elevated CMD
Stay connected to the internet and execute the following commands one after the other

FOR %F IN ("%SystemRoot%\servicing\Packages\Microsoft-Windows-GroupPolicy-ClientTools-Package~*.mum") DO ( DISM /Online /NoRestart /Add-Package:"%F" )

FOR %F IN ("%SystemRoot%\servicing\Packages\Microsoft-Windows-GroupPolicy-ClientExtensions-Package~*.mum") DO ( DISM /Online /NoRestart /Add-Package:"%F" )

Restart PC

hdmi · Nov 10, 2023

Disabling the Windows Update service is not a solution that works, when the goals is to block all Windows updates completely. (This holds true even if you also disable the tasks that re-enable the Windows Update service.)

Gregory · Nov 10, 2023

So there isn't any way to to completely and total stop the ms updates forever until you want to re-enable them?

dacrone · Nov 10, 2023

uhh... what? i have one of my win 11 pc set as a file server running 22h2 and it has updates disabled. havent updated that pc in nearly a year. no prompts; nothing. i know for a 110% fact that it works

hdmi · Nov 10, 2023

Gregory said:
So there isn't any way to to completely and total stop the ms updates forever until you want to re-enable them?

Like I already explained. Not without hacking Windows, you can't (excepting only if you choose to permanently disconnect Windows from the internet).

dacrone · Nov 10, 2023

1) hacking? :lmao:

what are you talking about. its setting a service to disabled through services.msc

2) you don't have to disconnect anything from the internet.

3) im done posting on this topic. someone else can explain services to you.

hdmi · Nov 10, 2023

dacrone said:
uhh... what? i have one of my win 11 pc set as a file server running 22h2 and it has updates disabled. havent updated that pc in nearly a year. no prompts; nothing. i know for a 110% fact that it works

Eventually it will download and install some critical update(s) regardless of whether the Windows Update service is still kept permanently disabled. That's right... a part of the Windows system is capable to download and install at least some Windows updates directly, i.e. as opposed to using the Windows Update service. I already tried to explain this two weeks ago (see my post #112).

Gregory · Nov 10, 2023

dacrone said:
uhh... what? i have one of my win 11 pc set as a file server running 22h2 and it has updates disabled. havent updated that pc in nearly a year. no prompts; nothing. i know for a 110% fact that it works

As i read and do myself simply disable the "windows update service" doesn't disable forever the ms updates so how you did that?

Gregory · Nov 10, 2023

dacrone said:
1) hacking? what are you talking about. its setting a service to disabled through services.msc

2) you don't have to disconnect anything from the internet.

3) im done posting on this topic. someone else can explain services to you.

No unfortunatelly this doesn't work forever.
Ms can still enable the ms updates so it's little useless.

dacrone · Nov 10, 2023

I have a file server on 22h2 and a media server on 22h2 that disagree. File server hasn’t installed any updates since Jan 2023 and the media server since Aug 2023. No optional updates.. nothing. Only thing I’ve done on either is disable the service.
Don’t know what else to tell you. If you can’t get that to work, you can just set windows update to notify prior to downloading or installing and disable that notification as well.
GPO - Computer - “Configure Automatic Updates” - Value = 2
GPO - Computer - “Display Options for Update Notifications” - Value = 2

Gregory · Nov 24, 2023

I can't install win11 without internet(I make the "OOBE\BYPASSNRO" command) and without mail(I don't want to add mail at win11 at all.

I try to re-install the win11 23h2 for the explorer issue but during install process ask me to connect to the internet and ask me mail.