Some questions about windows 11

spapakons · Oct 17, 2023

There is a Registry setting or group policy method to permanently disable Windows Update. See Tutorials. You can also use a third party tool such as Windows Shutup or Windows Advanced Update Manager (WAU). To block individual updates use Windows Update Show/Hide Tool (wushowhide)

Kees · Oct 17, 2023

Gregory said:
So how i can permanent disable the automatic system updates/check????
Permanent not only for some days.

Here you find a method to extend the period of 7 days:

Change Maximum Days to Pause Windows Update in Windows 11 Tutorial

This tutorial will show you how to change the maximum days you can pause Windows Update for in Windows 11. Windows Update keeps Windows 11 updated by automatically downloading and installing the latest updates, drivers, and hotfixes released by Microsoft. If you have a Windows Insider build of...

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Extension can last several month! The only thing that you would have to do is renew the extension.

Gregory · Oct 19, 2023

spapakons said:
There is a Registry setting or group policy method to permanently disable Windows Update. See Tutorials. You can also use a third party tool such as Windows Shutup or Windows Advanced Update Manager (WAU). To block individual updates use Windows Update Show/Hide Tool (wushowhide)

The "Windows Advanced Update Manager" doesn't stop check for updates simply make it no show messages or notifications.
I want a program that stop permanent the automatic updates but stop check for updates to and if i want re-enable the check for updates manually.

Gregory · Oct 19, 2023

Guys really Microsoft doesn't let you disable permanent the auto check for update and must re-stop it every some days???????

spapakons · Oct 20, 2023

There are relevant thread describing how to do it, such as this one: How Do You Disable Windows 11 Automatic Updates in Windows 11 Home

Try disabling the Windows Update service along with Windows Update Orchestrator service. Also go at Scheduled Tasks and disable anything related to Windows Update so it never runs.

Gregory · Oct 20, 2023

Does this method with simply disable this service work permanent for all automatic updates until i enable it(If i want)?

glasskuter · Oct 20, 2023

You're making this more difficult than it is. Don't try to create your media using Windows 7. Use another computer that is running Windows 10. Surely you know someone who has one. Use Windows 11 media creation tool. UNCHECK "Use recommended option for this PC"
CHECK ISO file. Save the iso file.

Use Rufus to create install media. Insert an 8gb flash drive. Click "Select" browse to iso file, click Open
Choose option for MBR. Click START.
Under Windows User Experience options check them all
Use this install media on your MBR machine. It can not be used on a uefi machine. You will have to create separate installation media for GPT

Others may disagree with me here but my opinion is if your machine is so old that it is MBR, you would be much better off installing 10 than 11. I suspect you do not have much ram. If you have 4gb, 10 will run on it albeit slowly. Even pared down to its minimum 11 will not run well at all.

Gregory · Oct 20, 2023

If you see my previews posts i already try that and doesn't work at all.
The new iso file created from rufus run at win10 doesn't was secure boot and tpm2 disabled so even i have choose it from rufus.

And i don't want to install win10 cause after some years it need to install the win11 cause stop support win10 so......

spapakons · Oct 20, 2023

Installing Windows 10 is not recommended because there will be no performance or compatibility difference from Windows 11. Everything you can do in Windows 10 you can do it in Windows 11 using the same drivers, same configuration and same applications. Given Windows 10 EOL is in 2025, why bother? I would install Windows 10 32-bit on a tablet or other PC that cannot handle 64-bit, otherwise I would go for Windows 11. Needless to say don't believe the BS that installing Windows 11 on unsupported computer makes it vulnerable to viruses or other threats. You are as secure as running Windows 10 with the same configuration. No less, no more.

PS: you may not believe it, but running Windows 11 on my test laptop (see 1st system specs) seems faster than running Windows 10 32-bit. It might be though because Windows 10 32-bit can use about 2.97GB RAM out of 4GB while Windows 11 being 64-bit can use 3.7GB or more. I haven't tested it with Windows 10 64-bit, there is little point since it can run Windows 11. I was previously running Windows 10 32-bit since originally had only 2GB RAM and to maximize compatibility with old games and old peripherals (updated from Windows 8.1 32-bit, which was updated from Windows 7 32-bit and that from Vista 32-bit). Now that there are readily 64-bit drivers and applications for everything, I stick with 64-bit.

Gregory · Oct 28, 2023

spapakons said:
There are relevant thread describing how to do it, such as this one: How Do You Disable Windows 11 Automatic Updates in Windows 11 Home

Try disabling the Windows Update service along with Windows Update Orchestrator service. Also go at Scheduled Tasks and disable anything related to Windows Update so it never runs.

Even at this topic tallied me that there isn't any permanent way to stop updates or check for updates.
So we must every week to change tha pause updates???
Isn't there any permanent way to simply do it and stop forever the check for updates?????

spapakons · Oct 28, 2023

Yes, disable the Windows Update service and disable any Windows Update scheduled task. I did it for a tablet with limited free space running Windows 10 so it doesn't run out of space, but it also works in 11.

hdmi · Oct 28, 2023

Gregory said:
Even at this topic tallied me that there isn't any permanent way to stop updates or check for updates.
So we must every week to change tha pause updates???
Isn't there any permanent way to simply do it and stop forever the check for updates?????

First off, completely disabling all updates isn't recommended on a Windows PC that is used to connect normally to the internet, as doing that is a big security risk. Secondly, no, you can't permanently disable it in full. At least not without hacking Windows, you can't. This is because even with the update service disabled and even with the related tasks in Task Scheduler disabled it will still periodically check for and automatically download and install certain critical updates when they become available (although it's pretty rare), and no, pausing updates can't be done in any way that will be permanent (maybe they are stupid, but they're not that stupid... they just love to pretend that they are, lol

). Some people have tried to block the domains from Microsoft by using a hardware firewall. They still failed because Microsoft occasionally makes some changes to the IP ranges. Using WAU to selectively block updates and only install updates that contain necessary bigfixes and security patches adds the risk of missing out on some important updates because Microsoft occasionally makes some changes to certain updates in such a way that the version number of the update isn't changed so WAU can't always find it. You want to permanently disable all updates? Then permanently stay off the internet.

spapakons · Oct 28, 2023

I managed to block almost all updates by disabling the service so it doesn't consume valuable resources of my humble HP Stream 7 tablet and doesn't choke the limited free space. I have a full storage backup in case something goes wrong, so I don't care about the compromised security.

Gregory · Oct 28, 2023

hdmi said:
First off, completely disabling all updates isn't recommended on a Windows PC that is used to connect normally to the internet, as doing that is a big security risk. Secondly, no, you can't permanently disable it in full. At least not without hacking Windows, you can't. This is because even with the update service disabled and even with the related tasks in Task Scheduler disabled it will still periodically check for and automatically download and install certain critical updates when they become available (although it's pretty rare), and no, pausing updates can't be done in any way that will be permanent (maybe they are stupid, but they're not that stupid... they just love to pretend that they are, lol ). Some people have tried to block the domains from Microsoft by using a hardware firewall. They still failed because Microsoft occasionally makes some changes to the IP ranges. Using WAU to selectively block updates and only install updates that contain necessary bigfixes and security patches adds the risk of missing out on some important updates because Microsoft occasionally makes some changes to certain updates in such a way that the version number of the update isn't changed so WAU can't always find it. You want to permanently disable all updates? Then permanently stay off the internet.

I don't want to know/care what ms want to do to my windows.
Why at previews versions of windows you can completely at permanent disable updates?

Gregory · Oct 28, 2023

spapakons said:
I managed to block almost all updates by disabling the service so it doesn't consume valuable resources of my humble HP Stream 7 tablet and doesn't choke the limited free space. I have a full storage backup in case something goes wrong, so I don't care about the compromised security.

Can you tell me how i disable all the scheduled checks?
I already disable the "windows update" service.

hdmi · Oct 28, 2023

Gregory said:
I don't want to know/care what ms want to do to my windows.

OK.

Gregory said:
Why at previews versions of windows you can completely at permanent disable updates?

Because that's what Microsoft no longer wanted you to do to their Windows so then they decided to make that as impossible as they possibly could? Their Windows, as in, the Windows that belongs to them, not you, as you're just the guy who obtained the right from them to use their Windows, not own their Windows? Maybe this all sounds a bit strange to you, but it's written in the legalese still nevertheless.

Gregory · Oct 29, 2023

This is not correct.
Cause you pay Microsoft to leave you have some freedom at their software/os at your machine/pc but as we see you don't have any free choices to their software/os.
For me this is not correct.

hdmi · Oct 29, 2023

Gregory said:
This is not correct.
Cause you pay Microsoft to leave you have some freedom at their software/os at your machine/pc but as we see you don't have any free choices to their software/os.
For me this is not correct.

....And the Lord spoke unto John, "come forth and receive eternal life".

But John came fifth and won a toaster.

Gregory · Nov 2, 2023

I ask this to the correct thread but i copy it hear to to tell me your options.

Gregory said:
Does anyone have try this???
Does this stop/disable all updates permanent or not?

Gregory · Nov 7, 2023

Here is one example i want to total disable the win11 updates.

Gregory said:
Someone here tell me that is not correct to total disable the updates.
Here is the proof after the latest ms win11 updates the windows explorer doesn't appear the toolbar at all, the only thing i see at windows explorer after updates is grey thing and nothing more. if i can i make a picture to show you.