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Yosh79

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ah damn... wrong Thread...
 

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@Yosh79 Could you please add full system specs to your profile so we know what computer you are using. It is impossible to help if we don't know this crucial information.
 

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    Lenovo
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    Realtek
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    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
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    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
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    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
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    Asus PRIME Z270-A
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    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
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    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
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CharmaineK

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Issue started for me after the Oct Win11 update. I had so many issues with Wn11 that I did a factory reset. Then I saw no exclamation beside Device Security however when I clicked on it said not supported. No changes were made to my machine, but today after shutdown/restart the exclamation is back, and screen states not supported. Checked WSS as mentioned above. Cannot make changes.

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    16gb
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    Intel R Iris R Xe Graphics
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    Realtek R Audio, Intel Smart Sound
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@CharmaineK Please fill in your full system specs.

After the full reset, what changes have you made to Windows? Which security features does not work for you? Which security feature was Defender complaining about?
 

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    Lenovo A485
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    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
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    Lenovo
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    32GB
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    iGPU Vega 10
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    Realtek
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    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
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    FHD + FHD + 1440p
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    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
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    65W
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    Logitech MX Master 2S
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    WSA: Installed
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
    VBS: Enabled
    HVCI: Enabled
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    Windows 11 Pro build 10.0.22623.1037 (Release Preview Channel)
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    PC/Desktop
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    Custom
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    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
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    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
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    Integrated
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    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
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    WQHD 2560x1440
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    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
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    850W
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    Fractal Design Define 7
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    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
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    Logitech MX Master 2S
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    Logitech MX Keys
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    600/300Mbit
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    Edge (Cromium)
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@CharmaineK Please fill in your full system specs.

After the full reset, what changes have you made to Windows? Which security features does not work for you? Which security feature was Defender complaining about?
Some issues have been resolved over the past week after 2 resets reinstalling WIN11 and any other Windows Updates, and learning things look different, no longer needed, not for my build. Guess some are ID-10-IT issues.
Defender is fine. Device Security has an exclamation and Smart App Control switched from Evaluation to Off. I installed, uninstalled and reinstalled WIN11 update that appeared in my Windows Updates. . I am up to date with the security updates for the last couple of days. I uninstalled to see if they were the issue but found they are not. My machine has been a little wonky since the WIN11 update I ran lastweek:
1. Windows Security - Protection History - Controlled Access Folder --> blocking files from being saved to some of my OneDrive document folders which I can set to allow (I read the recent items clears after a couple of weeks, but concerned about the blocked access - winsat.exe - isn't that a virus)
2. Windows Security - Device Security --> Not supported (I believe that is ok and it is determined by Microsoft that I don't need it)
3. Onedrive randomly stops syncing
4. File Explorer not responding - cursor not appearing to select folders however can select same folder if I access OneDrive from the system tray
5. File Explorer tabbed title bar is sometimes grey and sometimes my chosen accent color
6. This PC under C: users now has a Default user (can I delete it?)
7. This PC under Windows has a windows.old file (I read it automatically disappears after 10 days)
 

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    11th Gen Intel R Core TM i7 - 1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
    Memory
    16gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel R Iris R Xe Graphics
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    Realtek R Audio, Intel Smart Sound
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Ok, WinSat.exe is a windows component...you may safely allow it. It is a Windows assessment tool.
For the rest...ignore memory integrity...you will only run into issues regarding drivers and compatibility. Unless you absolutely want to be paranoid about Windows security and know exactly how it works.

Disable Controlled folder access, it is more trouble than worth it, unless you know exactly what you are doing. Defaults will just screw up your system and annoy you during your workflow. While it will be a great security feature if you spend days configuring it...your choice...
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro build 10.0.25284.1000 (Dev Channel)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    65W
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WSA: Installed
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
    VBS: Enabled
    HVCI: Enabled
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro build 10.0.22623.1037 (Release Preview Channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
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    Edge (Cromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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Ok, WinSat.exe is a windows component...you may safely allow it. It is a Windows assessment tool.
For the rest...ignore memory integrity...you will only run into issues regarding drivers and compatibility. Unless you absolutely want to be paranoid about Windows security and know exactly how it works.

Disable Controlled folder access, it is more trouble than worth it, unless you know exactly what you are doing. Defaults will just screw up your system and annoy you during your workflow. While it will be a great security feature if you spend days configuring it...your choice...
Thanks! I read CFA can be turned off and avoid many issues with my files and folders randomly being blocked. I can't see Memory Integrity as it's under the Device Security which I can't access as unsupported. I read WINSAT is a virus but also read it's a Windows tool. LOL. I used to know what I'm doing being a retired IT tech, however, we used images on USB and didn't need to do much when refreshing the companies' laptops. Plus, I built my first computer in 1996! I'm just digging deeper into my own system since the Win11 latest update. I used to have Mcafee and in the past mused Norton, now I'm just using Windows Security/Microsoft Defender so I'm getting familiar with what it offers. 2 resets has been time consuming and I'm no further ahead with the device security (so I guess the evaluation deems not needed), and protection history (it will clear when I do a reset)
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Win11 22623.891
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    11th Gen Intel R Core TM i7 - 1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
    Memory
    16gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel R Iris R Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek R Audio, Intel Smart Sound
    Hard Drives
    C
    Browser
    Google
    Antivirus
    Windows Security/Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Downloaded MSEdgeRedirect

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