Solved Start Menu not responding after latest update


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I ran an update on my computer last night (June 18, 2022) which was the latest update, I believe. Prior to this, my system was working just fine. Now, the Start Menu does not respond.

Some info: (Powershell: Get-ComputerInfo | Select OsName, OSDisplayVersion, OsBuildNumber
OsName: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro
OSDisplayVersion: 21H2
OsBuildNumber: 22000

I did try to re-register my Start Menu, no luck. The fixes on this page did not work. Specifically:
Stop-Process -Name "StartMenuExperienceHost" -Force

Code:
Stop-Process : Cannot find a process with the name "StartMenuExperienceHost". Verify the process name and call the cmdlet again.
At line:1 char:1
+ Stop-Process -Name "StartMenuExperienceHost" -Force
+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    + CategoryInfo          : ObjectNotFound: (StartMenuExperienceHost:String) [Stop-Process], ProcessCommandException
    + FullyQualifiedErrorId : NoProcessFoundForGivenName,Microsoft.PowerShell.Commands.StopProcessCommand
Therefore I was unable to run these commands, either because I received the HRESULT: 0x80073D02 error. To my understanding, unless you can successfully stop the Start Menu, these codes will produce that error:

Reregister Current User: Get-AppxPackage Microsoft.Windows.ShellExperienceHost | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml"}

Reregister All Users: Get-AppxPackage -AllUsers Microsoft.Windows.ShellExperienceHost | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml"}

How can I resolve this?
 

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Here's a few things you can try.
1. First, if you haven't already, reboot computer from ctrl+alt+delete and check start menu again.

2. See if the start menu works in safe mode. Enter ctrl+alt+del and select task manager. In upper left corner select-file-run new task.
In the box type msconfig.exe and check box to run as admin.
Within msconfig check the safe boot and network boxes. Apply Ok Restart
If the start menu works in safe boot, uninstall any third party app you might be using that alters the GUI, ie:Explorerpatcher, startisback, start11
To get out of safe boot, open msconfig.exe again and uncheck the box beside safe boot. Apply, OK Restart

3. If you still can not get into start menu in normal mode, enter task manager as per step 2, file-run new task-type cmd.exe and check box to run with administrative priviledges.
From the command prompt type sfc /scannow

Report back with your findings.
 

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EDIT: This did not restore functionality to my Start Menu. It is still unresponsive to the mouse click and the Window Key. I will look at other options from the previous reply. I have not installed anything since yesterday that would've had any sort of effect on the Start Menu. I have not installed any third-party Start Menu apps, either. My only option to Restart/Shutdown is to CTRL+ALT+DEL where I can visually see a power button, since I cannot access the Start Menu.

EDIT #2: Had already tried restarting initially, this didn't help. Going into Safe Mode did not do anything, either. The last things that were installed were, and these are likely just all updates:
Code:
Microsoft Edge WebView2 Runtime
Microsoft Edge
Microsoft Visio - en-us
Microsoft Publisher 2019 - en-us
Microsoft Office Professional Plus 2019 - en-us

I have run these codes, about to restart.

Code:
dism.exe /online /cleanup-image /scanhealth
dism.exe /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth
dism.exe /online /cleanup-image /startcomponentcleanup
sfc /scannow

The first three ran and reported:
Code:
The operation completed successfully.

sfc /scannow showed this after completion:
Code:
Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files and successfully repaired them.
For online repairs, details are included in the CBS log file located at
windir\Logs\CBS\CBS.log. For example C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\CBS.log. For offline
repairs, details are included in the log file provided by the /OFFLOGFILE flag.

After I reboot, I'll report back as to if this worked by editing this reply.
 
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I seem to remember that one or two Winaero Tweaker settings, if used, would break the Start menu.
And they were settings up near the top, in the Windows 11 section. This was on version 1.33







Ofc, if all else fails... you can always do an In-Place Upgrade.
This will repair Windows and leave your programs and files untouched.





Here is the short version of the In-place upgrade tutorial...

DISABLE non-Microsoft:
a) antivirus software
b) firewall software
c) drive encryption software

Make a full OS backup with a program like Macrium Reflect (free)
Macrium Software | Macrium Reflect Free

Go here and get the Windows 11 ISO (use the 3rd option), and save the ISO to your desktop.
Download Windows 11
The ISO must be downloaded in the same language as you are using in Windows, to be able to keep your Programs and Files.


000000 Win 11 ISO.png


Right click the ISO image and choose: MOUNT
Open File Explorer and you will see a new drive letter. It will "look" like a DVD optical drive.
Double click the new drive letter to open it.
Find setup.exe and double click it to start the in-place upgrade.

Choose the Keep personal files and apps option.

After it's all done... to UNmount the ISO image, right click the new drive letter and choose: EJECT.


The ONLY thing you will lose is some of your personalizations. Your programs and data will be intact.
 

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@Ghot when I originally upgraded from Windows 10, I had to run a "hack" to get the installation to work, since my system does not support TPM 2.0 on the CPU. I got it here, I used the method where I created a file called skip_tpm.cmd. From what I'm reading on the page, running the script a second time will disable the script.

Will the in-place upgrade still work or will it decide not to work due to my CPU not being TPM 2.0 compatible? Basically, I'm wondering if Microsoft has added a few tricks for those trying to skip over the requirement.
 

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Just mentioning this because...

After the last update I found that Reg Edit would not open. I ran SFC, it said it found and repaired corrupt files and now Reg Edit is fine.

Coincidence, or something else going on.
 

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@Ghot when I originally upgraded from Windows 10, I had to run a "hack" to get the installation to work, since my system does not support TPM 2.0 on the CPU. I got it here, I used the method where I created a file called skip_tpm.cmd. From what I'm reading on the page, running the script a second time will disable the script.

Will the in-place upgrade still work or will it decide not to work due to my CPU not being TPM 2.0 compatible? Basically, I'm wondering if Microsoft has added a few tricks for those trying to skip over the requirement.
Clean install and upgrade setup has different TPM requirements/hacks - for an upgrade you need at least TPM 1.2 + a reg hack.. else create a dummy appraiserres.dll if no TPM present.
 

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Clean install and upgrade setup has different TPM requirements/hacks - for an upgrade you need at least TPM 1.2 + a reg hack.. else create a dummy appraiserres.dll if no TPM present.
How would I create a "dummy appraiserres.dll" file?

If I don't do anything and just begin the in-place upgrade, what's the worst that could happen? Could it just tell me my system isn't compatible and just go back to my current install (which has a non-working Start Menu)?

I actually tried creating a new local account. It, too had a malfunctioning Start Menu.
 

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How would I create a "dummy appraiserres.dll" file?

If I don't do anything and just begin the in-place upgrade, what's the worst that could happen? Could it just tell me my system isn't compatible and just go back to my current install (which has a non-working Start Menu)?

I actually tried creating a new local account. It, too had a malfunctioning Start Menu.
It will tell you need TPM 2.0 when you upgrade even with the "Allow-this-and-that" in the registry

@Bree has the low-down on the appreaiserres.dll method .. deleting the original horribleness in Panther/sources and replacing it with a notepad file as appraiserrres.dll AFAIK.
 

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How would I create a "dummy appraiserres.dll" file?
@Bree has the low-down on the appreaiserres.dll method .. deleting the original horribleness in Panther/sources and replacing it with a notepad file as appraiserrres.dll AFAIK.
Yes. Just right-click and create a New Text Document on your desktop. Rename it as appraiserres.dll, then delete the original and cut and paste your replacement from the desktop into the folder.

It is important to choose NOT to let Setup check for updates during the upgrade. If you do then you won't have the 'Back' button to go back and try again after the initial failure. As it happens, I did an in-place upgrade last night.

Screenshot 2022-06-19 232453.png

When you get to the screen above replace appraiserres.dll, then click Back, then the Next button to try again.

Screenshot 2022-06-19 233024.png
 
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If one has incompatible hardware the best way is to put iso on usb drive using the new version of Rufus. No regedits. No appraissers. dll. Rufus does it all for you. The tool now includes a new “Extended Windows 11 Installation (no TPM / no Secure Boot)” to bypass the system requirements. Then the usb can be used for both a clean install or inplace upgrade. How to create Windows 11 bootable USB to bypass requirements with Rufus - Pureinfotech
 

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Riddle me this. I have two hard drives.

C:\ - Windows and some apps - NVMe 2TB
D:\ - Some apps and mainly data - HDD 10 TB

Can I use the D:\ drive instead of a USB to perform the in-place upgrade? That is, if I create a folder like Win11 and place the files that I normally would put on a USB in it?
 

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Yes, you can, if you want to use Bree's method and alter the iso yourself. If you have incompatible hardware, a repair install will fail unless the iso is altered in advance, whether it be manually by the user, or by Rufus. In the case of a inplace upgrade, Windows does not care where your iso is located.
 
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Update: Problem solved...BUT it caused another problem. See last line of this comment. I would make another post but I think it should be on this one since it was caused by the In place upgrade.

Notes:
  • Used my D:\ Drive to mount the Windows.iso. Used Create Windows 11 Installation Media to download the WIndows 11 ISO, saved it to D:\W11. Extracted Windows.iso to D:\W11\Windows. Ran the installation from here. Took over an hour to run.
  • Start Menu issue: Fixed
  • In my case, I did not have to do anything special since I do not have TPM 2.0 on my CPU. I'm guessing whatever hack I ran before, still applied.
  • Quick Launch Toolbar was lost. I'm not sure what all steps I did to create it in the first place, but to get it back, I did this:
    1. Right-Click on Toolbar > Toolbars > New Tool Bar...
    2. In the path, paste this: %SystemDrive%\Users\%username%\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Internet Explorer
    3. Click the Quick Launch folder in the Folder box, click Select Folder.
    4. Next, you'll have to drag it to the left. On the Toolbar itself, RIght-click and uncheck Show Text and Show Title.
New Issue: Cannot access Microsoft pages from Google Chrome. I get an error: AADSTS50058. Currently researching it. Any ideas?
 

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1. clear browser cache
2. turn off extensions and try. If it fixes it, narrow it down to problematic extension.
3. check cookie settings
4. try another browser
 

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1. clear browser cache
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First of all, sorry, I forgot to mark this thread as solved, although I see you were answering a question which resulted from a problem of doing an inplace upgrade.

I actually got smart for a change and just cleared the specific site settings, rather than my entire browser. This seemed to work.
 

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