StartAllBack


StartAllBack Version 3.3.2 Released

Version History
Version 3.3.2 25 February 2022
  • "Always show scrollbars" works in Win32 apps

StartAllBack to fix all Windows 11 deal-breaking UI issues

StartAllBack restores taskbar, start menu, context menus, explorer, sanity, style and order!
www.startallback.com
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Stigg's Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-10900X
    Motherboard
    GIGABYTE X299X DESIGNARE 10G
    Memory
    Corsair 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) CMW64GX4M4C3000C15 Vengeance RGB Pro 3000Mhz DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1660 Super Mini ITX 6 GB OC
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 27" FHD LED FreeSync Gaming Monitor (LS27F350FHEXXY)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Pro Series 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe SSD
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
    PSU
    Corsair HX1200 1200W 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 Black Solid Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black
    Keyboard
    Razer Ornata V2
    Mouse
    Razer DeathAdder Essential
    Internet Speed
    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    Logitech BRIO 4k Ultra HD USB-C Webcam
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Zephyrus M GM501GS
    CPU
    Core i7-8750H
    Motherboard
    Zephyrus M GM501GS
    Memory
    SK Hynix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) HMA82GS6CJR8N-VK 16 GB DDR4-2666 DDR4 SDRAM
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC294
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AU Optronics B156HAN07.1 [15.6" LCD]
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung MZVKW512HMJP-00000 512 GB, PCI-E 3.0 x4
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 4TB 4 TB, SATA-III
    PSU
    N/A
    Case
    N/A
    Cooling
    N/A
    Mouse
    Razer DeathAdder Essential
    Keyboard
    PC/AT Enhanced PS2 Keyboard (101/102-Key)
    Internet Speed
    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    USB2.0 HD UVC Webcam
Great little proggy, bought it a few months ago.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 22635.3420
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel i5-8400
    Motherboard
    ASUS Rog Strix B360-G
    Memory
    32 Gig 4x 8gb DDR4 2666
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte 1660Ti
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 32inch, 60Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1x SP 512GB NVMe (Windows)
    1x Gammix 240gb NVME (Macrium Backups)
    1x 2TB WD HDD (Downloads)
    1x 2TB BX500 (Games)
    1x 1TB NVME (Steam)
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BX1, 650w
    Case
    Corsair Carbide 100R
    Cooling
    Deep Cool Gammaxx GTE V2 CPU.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K55
    Mouse
    Razer Basilisk X HyperSpeed
    Internet Speed
    100/40
    Browser
    Chrome + Pale Moon
    Antivirus
    Windows

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
I've been running StartAllBack for a couple months now, didn't know we had a thread for it until today. Great information on here too. :-)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro (x64) 23H2 22631.3296
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Made
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-14900KS @5.9MHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus Apex Z790
    Memory
    G.Skill DDR5 - 7800 - F5-7800J3646H16X2-TZ5RK 32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition
    Sound Card
    Integrated ROG SupremeFX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q 27 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080@165Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 PRO 500GB - M.2 NVMe,
    Samsung 970 EVO SSD 1TB - M.2 NVMe,
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB,
    WD Black 1TB Performance Hard Drive
    PSU
    EVGA SuperNOVA 1200 P2 80+ PLATINUM
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Primo Special Edition
    Cooling
    ASUS ROG Ryujin II 360 RGB all-in-one liquid CPU cooler 360mm Radiator
    Keyboard
    Razer Huntsman Elite
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3 Wireless
    Internet Speed
    950 / 40
    Browser
    FireFox, and Chrome
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes Pro / Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro (x64) 23H2 22631.2792
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Made
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-9900K @5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Apex X (Z370)
    Memory
    G.Skill DDR4 F4-3200C14D - 32GBGTZSW
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA Geforce GTX 2080 Ti FTW3
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    55" LG 4K Ultra HD TV
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080@60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 960 PRO M.2 512GB, Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB, WD Black 1TB Performance Desktop Hard Drive
    PSU
    EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G2, 80+ GOLD 850W
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Pro Full Tower Chassis
    Cooling
    Corsair H150i PRO RGB AIO Liquid CPU Cooler,360mm
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless Mouse
    Keyboard
    Logitech K350 Wireless
    Internet Speed
    400 / 20
    Browser
    FireFox / Chrome
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes Pro / Windows Defender / SAS Pro

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
I'm not diggin it!!! :(

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I like the discreet look better..., and, you can't roll back either!!! :(

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
Edwin said:
I'm not diggin it!!! :(

View attachment 22944

I like the discreet look better..., and, you can't roll back either!!! :(

View attachment 22945
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While I don't really mind the scrollbars...and didn't really notice, are you complaining about StartAllBack or Windows 11? Whether I have StartAllBack enabled or disabled my scroll bars look just like your first image...slightly thicker bars.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel i7-7700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime Z-270A
    Memory
    32GB 2666Mhz (Kingston Hyper X Fury)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Nvidia 1050Ti
    Sound Card
    N/A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung C27F390
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Evo 512GB
mccnavy said:
While I don't really mind the scrollbars...and didn't really notice, are you complaining about StartAllBack or Windows 11? Whether I have StartAllBack enabled or disabled my scroll bars look just like your first image...slightly thicker bars.
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The first image is after I updated to 3.3.2, the second image is 3.3.1...,
even after uninstalling 3.3.2 and re-installing 3.3.1, it doesn't bring the decreet look back! :(
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
... I figure the tweak is in Windows Metrics, and, uninstalling and re-installing won't reverse the tweak.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
Interesting. In installed StartAllBack on 2 of my machines but my 3rd machine doesn't have it. When I get back from travel I'll compare.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel i7-7700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime Z-270A
    Memory
    32GB 2666Mhz (Kingston Hyper X Fury)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Nvidia 1050Ti
    Sound Card
    N/A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung C27F390
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Evo 512GB
Edwin said:
I'm not diggin it!!! :(



I like the discreet look better..., and, you can't roll back either!!! :(
Click to expand...

Try Winaero Tweaker. Under Advanced Appearance Settings there is a section for Scrollbars which allows you to change the width and button size.
The programme is great because with all the tweaks it provides a link to a webpage that shows you how it works and also how to change it manually like regedits etc.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
I just compared a machine with StartAllBack and one without...I'm not seeing much difference in scrollbar size so I think it is a Windows 11 registry setting. I have noticed that some apps modify the scrollbar width as well.

On a positive note, it looks like StartAllBack also restores a nice battery setting back. Windows 11 removed the feature where if you hover over the battery icon it shows both the % remaining as well as the estimated time left. You have to see it in "Settings." However, I think the "enhanced classic jumplists" box under taskbar restores the function. I had tried using registry edits provided online and they didn't work. All of the sudden, the feature is back.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel i7-7700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime Z-270A
    Memory
    32GB 2666Mhz (Kingston Hyper X Fury)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Nvidia 1050Ti
    Sound Card
    N/A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung C27F390
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Evo 512GB
I may have to end up going this route until MS fixed the right click on start in the latest dev. Just one question though, does StartAllBack allow us to put the taskbar in the middle like Windows 11?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 23H2 v22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built Myself in 2013
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 1800X 8-Core @ 3.60GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Crosshair VI Hero
    Memory
    16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 27" , PLANAR 22", eMachine 22"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ~ P34A60 512GB NVMe PCIe Gen3x4 M.2
    ~ 3TB WD Red HDD (extra storage)
    ~ SanDisk 250GB SSD
    ~ 2 X 1TB HDD
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    PSU
    Corsair RM850 Fully Modular (850watts)
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 630 CA-PH630-W1
    Cooling
    CORSAIR iCUE H100i RGB PRO XT
    Keyboard
    Logitech K860
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master
    Internet Speed
    752Mbps (Download) / 537Mbps (Upload)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    *This is my Main Computer That I use*
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD A10-5700 APU @ 3.40Ghz
    Motherboard
    Asus CM1745
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon R7 350x GDDR5 4 GB
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual Monitor Setup ONN 22" Monitors
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    ~~~~~~~~
    250GB SSD

    500GB HDD
    ~~~~~~~~
    PSU
    350Watt PSU
    Cooling
    Air Cooling
    Mouse
    MX Master
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Ergonomic 4000
    Internet Speed
    752Mbps (Download) / 537Mbps (Upload)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    *Computer for Weather Software*

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
Edwin said:
Yes.
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lol yeah you know what i mean. . . Thank ya! Can I include the start button itself, or will it just allow only the icons?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 23H2 v22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built Myself in 2013
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 1800X 8-Core @ 3.60GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Crosshair VI Hero
    Memory
    16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 27" , PLANAR 22", eMachine 22"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ~ P34A60 512GB NVMe PCIe Gen3x4 M.2
    ~ 3TB WD Red HDD (extra storage)
    ~ SanDisk 250GB SSD
    ~ 2 X 1TB HDD
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    PSU
    Corsair RM850 Fully Modular (850watts)
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 630 CA-PH630-W1
    Cooling
    CORSAIR iCUE H100i RGB PRO XT
    Keyboard
    Logitech K860
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master
    Internet Speed
    752Mbps (Download) / 537Mbps (Upload)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    *This is my Main Computer That I use*
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD A10-5700 APU @ 3.40Ghz
    Motherboard
    Asus CM1745
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon R7 350x GDDR5 4 GB
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual Monitor Setup ONN 22" Monitors
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    ~~~~~~~~
    250GB SSD

    500GB HDD
    ~~~~~~~~
    PSU
    350Watt PSU
    Cooling
    Air Cooling
    Mouse
    MX Master
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Ergonomic 4000
    Internet Speed
    752Mbps (Download) / 537Mbps (Upload)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    *Computer for Weather Software*
JMedlock83 said:
lol yeah you know what i mean. . . Thank ya! Can I include the start button itself, or will it just allow only the icons?
Click to expand...
Either.

000831.png
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
One thing that's always drove me nuts is..., between the Control Panel, the User folder and the All Users folder, there are 15 locations/virtual locations for Windows Tools, Accessories, etc..., StartAllBack puts them neatly in one list... (y)

000832.png
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
Edwin said:
One thing that's always drove me nuts is..., between the Control Panel, the User folder and the All Users folder, there are 15 locations/virtual locations for Windows Tools, Accessories, etc..., StartAllBack puts them neatly in one list... (y)

View attachment 23341
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I may have to try this out. I'm the type of person that doesn't like using 3rd party software, but I may have no choice until MS gets off their butts and fixes things.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 23H2 v22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built Myself in 2013
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 1800X 8-Core @ 3.60GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Crosshair VI Hero
    Memory
    16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 27" , PLANAR 22", eMachine 22"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ~ P34A60 512GB NVMe PCIe Gen3x4 M.2
    ~ 3TB WD Red HDD (extra storage)
    ~ SanDisk 250GB SSD
    ~ 2 X 1TB HDD
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    PSU
    Corsair RM850 Fully Modular (850watts)
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 630 CA-PH630-W1
    Cooling
    CORSAIR iCUE H100i RGB PRO XT
    Keyboard
    Logitech K860
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master
    Internet Speed
    752Mbps (Download) / 537Mbps (Upload)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    *This is my Main Computer That I use*
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD A10-5700 APU @ 3.40Ghz
    Motherboard
    Asus CM1745
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon R7 350x GDDR5 4 GB
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual Monitor Setup ONN 22" Monitors
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    ~~~~~~~~
    250GB SSD

    500GB HDD
    ~~~~~~~~
    PSU
    350Watt PSU
    Cooling
    Air Cooling
    Mouse
    MX Master
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Ergonomic 4000
    Internet Speed
    752Mbps (Download) / 537Mbps (Upload)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    *Computer for Weather Software*
JMedlock83 said:
I may have to try this out. I'm the type of person that doesn't like using 3rd party software, but I may have no choice until MS gets off their butts and fixes things.
Click to expand...
If I didn't use 3rd party software on Windows 11, I wouldn't be using Windows 11 !!! :cool:
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
Edwin said:
If I didn't use 3rd party software on Windows 11, I wouldn't be using Windows 11 !!! :cool:
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I like Windows 11, honestly. I love how the taskbar is center. But i'm the type of person that likes major changes too. A lot of people don't
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 23H2 v22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built Myself in 2013
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 1800X 8-Core @ 3.60GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Crosshair VI Hero
    Memory
    16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 27" , PLANAR 22", eMachine 22"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ~ P34A60 512GB NVMe PCIe Gen3x4 M.2
    ~ 3TB WD Red HDD (extra storage)
    ~ SanDisk 250GB SSD
    ~ 2 X 1TB HDD
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    PSU
    Corsair RM850 Fully Modular (850watts)
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 630 CA-PH630-W1
    Cooling
    CORSAIR iCUE H100i RGB PRO XT
    Keyboard
    Logitech K860
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master
    Internet Speed
    752Mbps (Download) / 537Mbps (Upload)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    *This is my Main Computer That I use*
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD A10-5700 APU @ 3.40Ghz
    Motherboard
    Asus CM1745
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon R7 350x GDDR5 4 GB
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual Monitor Setup ONN 22" Monitors
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    ~~~~~~~~
    250GB SSD

    500GB HDD
    ~~~~~~~~
    PSU
    350Watt PSU
    Cooling
    Air Cooling
    Mouse
    MX Master
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Ergonomic 4000
    Internet Speed
    752Mbps (Download) / 537Mbps (Upload)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    *Computer for Weather Software*
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