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Edwin · Nov 3, 2024

LesFerch said:
With the release StartAllBack 3.8.12, and using the Windows 7 option for Explorer, the menu bar does not work at all for me.

Same..., unless I open Explorer via Control Panel, (explorer shell:::{26EE0668-A00A-44D7-9371-BEB064C98683}\5\::{679f85cb-0220-4080-b29b-5540cc05aab6})

LesFerch said:
Using the StartAllBack 3.8.12.5194 beta, the menus work all the time for me, even for restored windows.

Same.

LesFerch said:
P.S. I also noticed that the Details pane at bottom is always enabled, regardless of the setting.

I found the setting toggles the Status Bar at the bottom...,
I have to use Old/New Explorer to toggle the Details Pane.

tistou77 · Nov 3, 2024

Edwin said:
I have to use Old/New Explorer to toggle the Details Pane.

Same for me
It doesn't work with a custom theme (that and other things)

Edwin · Nov 3, 2024

punchb said:
Is it possible to just disable/hide it in that case?

Edwin said:

I do not know how to hide those menus!

Click to expand...

I was mistaken! I can hide them with QTTabBar version 1038, but, not with version 2048!

Tamarindo Juice · Nov 5, 2024

Please, anyone knows how to get rid of this nasty bar?
It's just SAB set to W7 explorer style plus an msstyle vista-like that i made myself
(no ExplorerPatcher, OldNewExplorer or anything else)
Thanks!

Kees · Nov 5, 2024

This would be the normal appearance of the File Explorer, modified to W7 style via StartAllBack:

Nothing like the 'nasty bar' you pointed at!

Tamarindo Juice said:
...plus an msstyle vista-like that i made myself

If you made it yourself, the only person that knows how to get rid of that would be... you!

Tamarindo Juice · Nov 5, 2024

Kees said:
This would be the normal appearance of the File Explorer, modified to W7 style via StartAllBack:

Nothing like the 'nasty bar' you pointed at!

If you made it yourself, the only person that knows how to get rid of that would be... you!

Mstyles is just a theme and don't have anything to do with this annoying bar
that shows up only when i set SAB explorer style to W7.
Shows up with default W11 theme too.
I just want to get rid of it.

Kees · Nov 5, 2024

I did set SAB explorer style to W7 and did not get that bar.
So in one way or another that annoying bar must have it's cause in something else in your computer.

And if it is only appearing with SAB, then SAB will not be able to cooperate with MStyes, which is rather normal.
You cannot use two different programs at the same time that are modifying the user interface of File explorer and you can't expect the developer of SAB that he is taking in consideration your wish to combine MStyles with SAB!

Tamarindo Juice · Nov 5, 2024

Kees said:
I did set SAB explorer style to W7 and did not get that bar.
So in one way or another that annoying bar must have it's cause in something else in your computer.

And if it is only appearing with SAB, then SAB will not be able to cooperate with MStyes, which is rather normal.
You cannot use two different programs at the same time that are modifying the user interface of File explorer and you can't expect the developer of SAB that he is taking in consideration your wish to combine MStyles with SAB!

As i stated previously, the same happens while not using my custom vista theme, it shows up same when using windows 11 default theme (no custom msstyles at all)

Kees · Nov 5, 2024

In that case the cause must be somewhere else in your system. It seems to me that no one could find out what is causing that problem just in your system. I never saw anything like it, not even during the (long) time I used Windows 7, so may be your file explorer is corrupted.

You could wait some time if somebody else knows what to do, but else you might need something like this:

Use System File Checker (SFC) to Repair System Files in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to run the System File Checker (SFC) tool to repair missing, corrupted, and modified system files in Windows 10 and Windows 11. System File Checker (SFC) is a tool built into Windows that will check for system file corruption. The SFC /SCANNOW command scans and...

www.elevenforum.com

or even:

Repair Install Windows 11 with an In-place Upgrade

This tutorial will show you how to do a repair install of Windows 11 by performing an in-place upgrade without losing anything. If you need to repair or create a new recovery partition or having problems with the Windows 11 operating system on your PC, and the usual solutions will not fix it...

www.elevenforum.com

I would suggest you make a system image first, before you do any repair attempts!

Tamarindo Juice · Nov 5, 2024

Kees said:
In that case the cause must be somewhere else in your system. It seems to me that no one could find out what is causing that problem just in your system. I never saw anything like it, not even during the (long) time I used Windows 7, so may be your file explorer is corrupted.

You could wait some time if somebody else knows what to do, but else you might need something like this:

Use System File Checker (SFC) to Repair System Files in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to run the System File Checker (SFC) tool to repair missing, corrupted, and modified system files in Windows 10 and Windows 11. System File Checker (SFC) is a tool built into Windows that will check for system file corruption. The SFC /SCANNOW command scans and...

www.elevenforum.com

or even:

Repair Install Windows 11 with an In-place Upgrade

This tutorial will show you how to do a repair install of Windows 11 by performing an in-place upgrade without losing anything. If you need to repair or create a new recovery partition or having problems with the Windows 11 operating system on your PC, and the usual solutions will not fix it...

www.elevenforum.com

I would suggest you make a system image first, before you do any repair attempts!

Ok, thank you.

punchb · Nov 6, 2024

Tamarindo Juice said:
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Isn't this just the menu bar - which is the same bar that we've been talking about for the last few days?? It's indeed standard when you select Win7 in SAB. I've been wondering about how to either hide it or make it functional. There have been some suggestions here.

Tamarindo Juice · Nov 6, 2024

punchb said:
Isn't this just the menu bar - which is the same bar that we've been talking about for the last few days?? It's indeed standard when you select Win7 in SAB. I've been wondering about how to either hide it or make it functional. There have been some suggestions here.

I got it.
So it is a common behaviour?
I don't like the way it looks, would be nice if we could turn it off, just in case.

tistou77 · Nov 6, 2024

I don't have this menu bar with the Windows 7 option

However, I have it if I activate it from the Organize button => Layout => Menu bar

No issues encountered with SAB, some "incompatibilities" with custom themes
Just a shame to still have this awful green in the Progress Bar (taskbar)
Microsoft has finally removed it after decades where we had it (replaced by the accent color it seems)

Kees · Nov 6, 2024

tistou77 said:
However, I have it if I activate it from the Organize button => Layout => Menu bar

Yes indeed! I did not look that far into the possibilities of the W7 File explorer!

When I click Organize button => Layout => Menu bar that bar is there:

And when I click that option again, it has gone again:

So that should be your solution, thanks to @tistou77

Arphynion · Nov 7, 2024

StartAllBack 3.8.12

Show Classic Context Menus does not integrate new available compression options available in Modern Menus. Is there maybe a way this can be integrated with StartAllBack? I know I can install 7zip but I don't want to if SAB can do it. ; )

Kees · Nov 7, 2024

Arphynion said:
Show Classic Context Menus does not integrate new available compression options available in Modern Menus.

It seems to me it is one way or the other.

You can choose to use the modern option of 24H2 to have more than one compression app to choose out, but having to use the modern context menu as well.

Or you use the classic context menu, which does not have that choice.

Arphynion · Nov 7, 2024

Kees said:
It seems to me it is one way or the other.

You can choose to use the modern option of 24H2 to have more than one compression app to choose out, but having to use the modern context menu as well.

Or you use the classic context menu, which does not have that choice.

Yes, I am already aware hence my post. That’s why I’m hoping SAB could possibly do their magic so users do not have to switch. I’m not aware whether or not however if the SAB Devs read this but I’ve no known option on how to contact them directly to submit this kind of thing. I know there is an old MSFN forum as well but it’s old.

Tihiy · Nov 7, 2024

Add "Compress To" Option to Old Windows 11 Start Menu - Registry Tweak

Add "Compress To" Option to Old Windows 11 Start Menu - Registry Tweak - !AddCompressToMenu -- How-To-Use.txt

gist.github.com

jimminy · Nov 7, 2024

Arphynion said:
Yes, I am already aware hence my post. That’s why I’m hoping SAB could possibly do their magic so users do not have to switch. I’m not aware whether or not however if the SAB Devs read this but I’ve no known option on how to contact them directly to submit this kind of thing. I know there is an old MSFN forum as well but it’s old.

It's still there and active, if you're interested:

StartAllBack for Windows 11

msfn.org

Tihiy still makes occasional posts, so I know he reads that forum.
You'll probably have to create an account to post there.

Kees · Nov 8, 2024

jimminy said:
You'll probably have to create an account to post there.

That may be problematic. In the past I tried several times to make an account in that forum, but failed. Until about half a year ago they did not allow new members at all, then the mail you should receive after registrating never came. The mails definitely had not arrived in my spambox as well, the registrating system just does not function correctly. Or did not, because I did not try anymore after a few weeks and have not tried it for at least 2 months.

But that all should not be any problem., because the dev of StartAllBack, @Tihiy is active here as well, and has even responded to the problem posted by @Arphynion with link to a reasonable solution.

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