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punchb · Oct 29, 2024

Hi. I installed StartAllBack and I'm using the Win7 setting for Explorer. I noticed the menu bar (File, Edit, View, Tools) doesn't work. I read somewhere that it doesn't work anymore for anybody. Is it possible to just disable/hide it in that case? I tried removing the checkmark (Organize > Layout > Menu bar) but it's still there. Thanks to anybody that can help with this.

Edwin · Oct 29, 2024

punchb said:
Hi. I installed StartAllBack and I'm using the Win7 setting for Explorer. I noticed the menu bar (File, Edit, View, Tools) doesn't work. I read somewhere that it doesn't work anymore for anybody. Is it possible to just disable/hide it in that case? I tried removing the checkmark (Organize > Layout > Menu bar) but it's still there. Thanks to anybody that can help with this.

You have to do the ole 'Enter Explorer through the Control Panel' trick to make those menus work...

I do not know how to hide those menus!

dacrone · Oct 29, 2024

you can try ribbon disabler (yes, i know its not the ribbon, but this tool also removed the file menu bar...)

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Wolfzz · Oct 29, 2024

StartAllBack 3.8.12.5194 29 October 2024 (beta)

Not Sure what's been fixed yet

punchb · Oct 30, 2024

Edwin said:
You have to do the ole 'Enter Explorer through the Control Panel' trick to make those menus work...

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I do not know how to hide those menus!

Thanks. I tried opening Control Panel and then just typing c: in the address bar. I'm not sure if you meant something else? If I go to Control Panel\System and Security, I don't have Quick Access as an option.

Anyway, if I just type c: in the Control Panel I get to Explorer, but funnily enough without the menu bar! I tried re-enabling the menu bar in Organize > Layout agian, but to no avail. I still get the (non-functional) menu bar when I open Explorer normally of course.

But in any case, is there a way to have Explorer always open this way, like a shortcut or something? I guess it wouldn't work for Win+E or for Explorer windows that are restored at logon anyway.

dacrone · Oct 30, 2024

punchb said:
Thanks. I tried opening Control Panel and then just typing c: in the address bar. I'm not sure if you meant something else? If I go to Control Panel\System and Security, I don't have Quick Access as an option.

Anyway, if I just type c: in the Control Panel I get to Explorer, but funnily enough without the menu bar! I tried re-enabling the menu bar in Organize > Layout agian, but to no avail. I still get the (non-functional) menu bar when I open Explorer normally of course.

But in any case, is there a way to have Explorer always open this way, like a shortcut or something? I guess it wouldn't work for Win+E or for Explorer windows that are restored at logon anyway.

Restore Classic File Explorer with Ribbon in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to restore the classic File Explorer with Ribbon for your account or all users in Windows 11. File Explorer in Windows 10 has a ribbon, tabs, and a title bar with color. The ribbon includes common tasks, such as copying and moving, creating new folders, emailing...

www.elevenforum.com

create a shortcut to one of those... or use @LesFerch OldExplorer

Edwin · Nov 2, 2024

@Tihiy
How do you get Dark Mode everywhere???

punchb · Nov 2, 2024

dacrone said:
Restore Classic File Explorer with Ribbon in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to restore the classic File Explorer with Ribbon for your account or all users in Windows 11. File Explorer in Windows 10 has a ribbon, tabs, and a title bar with color. The ribbon includes common tasks, such as copying and moving, creating new folders, emailing...

www.elevenforum.com

create a shortcut to one of those... or use @LesFerch OldExplorer

Thanks. The first solution did make the menu bar work, but unfortunately it still doesn't work in windows that are restored when I sign in to Windows (unless I keep the location This PC, i.e. I don't move to any other folder). OldExplorer also made the menu bar work, but that too does not work for restored windows (not even if I keep the location).

Edwin · Nov 2, 2024

punchb said:
Thanks. The first solution did make the menu bar work, but unfortunately it still doesn't work in windows that are restored when I sign in to Windows (unless I keep the location This PC, i.e. I don't move to any other folder). OldExplorer also made the menu bar work, but that too does not work for restored windows (not even if I keep the location).

What about putting one of those shortcuts in your Start-up folder?

Edwin · Nov 2, 2024

My situation is rather fortunate, whereas, with the assistance of QTTabBar Groups, the window opens with the folder that originates from the alternative route, (Control Panel), and all tabs remain in that state..., and restore at logon, if I wish.

And, thanks to SAB, I don't have the stupid - File Explorer suffix!

Saved2Serve · Nov 2, 2024

Stigg said:
StartAllBack: Windows 11 from better timeline

Get the latest version here Download

Embrace, enhance, unsweep classic UI from under the rug
Restore and improve taskbar

Show labels on task icons

Adjust icon size and margins

Move taskbar to top, left or right edges

Drag and drop stuff onto taskbar

Center task icons but keep Start button on the left

Split into segments, use dynamic translucency

Separate corner icons with Windows 7/10 UI

Auto-hide when covered by maximized window

Restore and improve File Explorer and Control Panel

Ribbon and Command Bar revamped with translucent effects

Details pane on bottom

Old search box (the one which works)

Dark mode support for more dialogs

Restore and improve context menus

All new look with rounded acrylic menus

Fast and responsive taskbar menus

New fonts, better touch support

Restore and improve start menu

Launch apps and go to system places in one click

Navigate dropdown menus like a boss

Enjoy fast and reliable search

Finally, lightweight styling and UI consistency

Enjoy Windows 7, Windows 8 and third-party taskbar and start menu styles

Fix UI inconsistencies in Win32 apps

Don't be blue: recolor UI in all windows apps

Negative resource usage: fewer RAM used, fewer processes started, faster startup

StartAllBack For Windows 11 has been released.
~~It's an RC release. I haven't tested it yet as I have Start11 installed.~~

Edit: I have now tested it. It's working quite well.
Apart from a great start menu, you can also have the Enhanced Classic Taskbar back.
This means (for example) that you can have an uncombined and unlocked Taskbar.
You will now also be able to enhance the Taskbar clock using T-Clock Redux or similar.
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You can also change Windows Explorer to Ribbon UI or Simple UI.

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StartAllBack restores taskbar, start menu, context menus, explorer, sanity, style and order!

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Saved2Serve · Nov 2, 2024

Edwin said:
What about putting one of those shortcuts in your Start-up folder?

And if you make a shortcut to the hidden Send to folder (%UserProfile%\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\SendTo), and then place that shortcut in the folder itself, then you can right click on shortcuts send them to the Send to folder.

oldschool · Nov 2, 2024

Edwin said:
How do you get Dark Mode everywhere???

I don't think StartAllBack can do that. You need either SecureUXTheme or UltraUXThemePatcher.

https://www.deviantart.com/niivu/art/Installing-Windows-Themes-UPDATED-708835586

Saved2Serve · Nov 2, 2024

Edwin said:
@Tihiy
How do you get Dark Mode everywhere???

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i am not sure how I got it. In Settings (Window key and i) under Personalization, I have this chosen:

Or maybe it is one of the 200 tweaks available in Ultimate Windows Tweaker 5.

Edwin · Nov 2, 2024

Saved2Serve said:
I am not sure how I got it. In Settings (Window key and i) under Personalization, I have this chosen:
Or maybe it is one of the 200 tweaks available in Ultimate Windows Tweaker 5.

Are all your applets dark?

LesFerch · Nov 2, 2024

punchb said:
The first solution did make the menu bar work, but unfortunately it still doesn't work in windows that are restored when I sign in to Windows (unless I keep the location This PC, i.e. I don't move to any other folder).

I just tested 24H2 26100.2161 with a fresh build and first confirmed that Explorer windows are restored on login if I have the item "Restore previous folders at login" checked. I then switched Explorer over to the old Windows 10 style version using SwitchExplorer (which applies the same registry settings as Option 3 in the tutorial) and tested again. My open Explorer folders were still restored on login. Am I missing something?

punchb · Nov 3, 2024

LesFerch said:
I just tested 24H2 26100.2161 with a fresh build and first confirmed that Explorer windows are restored on login if I have the item "Restore previous folders at login" checked. I then switched Explorer over to the old Windows 10 style version using SwitchExplorer (which applies the same registry settings as Option 3 in the tutorial) and tested again. My open Explorer folders were still restored on login. Am I missing something?

My problem is the functioning for the Menu Bar. The restored windows have non-functional Menu Bars. Clicking File, Edit, View or Tools does nothing.

Edwin · Nov 3, 2024

punchb said:
My problem is the functioning for the Menu Bar. The restored windows have non-functional Menu Bars. Clicking File, Edit, View or Tools does nothing.

Does pressing Alt+F, E, V or T do anything?

punchb · Nov 3, 2024

Edwin said:
Does pressing Alt+F, E, V or T do anything?

No, it's the same.
To be clear, the Menu Bar works if I use one of the described methods, but it doesn't "stick" when the windows are restored at login.

LesFerch · Nov 3, 2024

punchb said:
My problem is the functioning for the Menu Bar. The restored windows have non-functional Menu Bars. Clicking File, Edit, View or Tools does nothing.

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I just tested StartAllBack with 24H2 26100.2161. My results seem to be different.

With the release StartAllBack 3.8.12, and using the Windows 7 option for Explorer, the menu bar does not work at all for me.

Using the StartAllBack 3.8.12.5194 beta, the menus work all the time for me, even for restored windows.

P.S. I also noticed that the Details pane at bottom is always enabled, regardless of the setting.

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