StartAllBack


StartAllBack: Windows 11 from better timeline​

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Embrace, enhance, unsweep classic UI from under the rug​

Restore and improve taskbar​

  • Show labels on task icons
  • Adjust icon size and margins
  • Move taskbar to top, left or right edges
  • Drag and drop stuff onto taskbar
  • Center task icons but keep Start button on the left
  • Split into segments, use dynamic translucency
  • Separate corner icons with Windows 7/10 UI
  • Auto-hide when covered by maximized window

Restore and improve File Explorer and Control Panel​

  • Ribbon and Command Bar revamped with translucent effects
  • Details pane on bottom
  • Old search box (the one which works)
  • Dark mode support for more dialogs

Restore and improve context menus​

  • All new look with rounded acrylic menus
  • Fast and responsive taskbar menus
  • New fonts, better touch support

Restore and improve start menu​

  • Launch apps and go to system places in one click
  • Navigate dropdown menus like a boss
  • Enjoy fast and reliable search

Finally, lightweight styling and UI consistency​

  • Enjoy Windows 7, Windows 8 and third-party taskbar and start menu styles
  • Fix UI inconsistencies in Win32 apps
  • Don't be blue: recolor UI in all windows apps
  • Negative resource usage: fewer RAM used, fewer processes started, faster startup





StartAllBack For Windows 11 has been released.
It's an RC release. I haven't tested it yet as I have Start11 installed.

Edit: I have now tested it. It's working quite well.
Apart from a great start menu, you can also have the Enhanced Classic Taskbar back.
This means (for example) that you can have an uncombined and unlocked Taskbar.
You will now also be able to enhance the Taskbar clock using T-Clock Redux or similar.
T-Clock Redux Tray Clock_.png

You can also change Windows Explorer to Ribbon UI or Simple UI.

You can get it Download



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05 - Explorer.png
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I will never switch over to the Plumpness taskbar at all. Takes too much space from my screen, I don't like it at all.
Not only that..., it screws up a lot of remembered window position/sizes, often hiding a title bar behind a Taskbar!

With a window maximized...
I did mean maximized, not full screen...
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
  • ASUS VivoBook 'Lite' ~ Windows 11 Home
Same, I tested and this option enlarges the taskbar too much, I use size S (corresponding to the old "small icons" option that MS will re-add with the next CUs)

The dev saw this "mistake" (if it is one for him)
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25h2Intel 10980XEG.Skill TridentZ RoyaleEVGA RTX 2080Ti Hydro Copper
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25h2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel 10980XE
    Motherboard
    Asus Rampage VI Extreme Encore
    Memory
    G.Skill TridentZ Royale
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2080Ti Hydro Copper
    Sound Card
    Asus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 27"
    Hard Drives
    Intel Optane P5801X
    Samsung 9100 Pro
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime TX 1000W
    Case
    Lian Li A77F
    Cooling
    Watercooling
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S
    Browser
    Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 24h2
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24h2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Pro
I use size S (corresponding to the old "small icons" option that MS will re-add with the next CUs)
What does CU mean? Certainly not "see you"...
Where did you read that MS is planning to bring back the small icon option in future?
I can't find that anywhere.

Would be a huge advance, in former windows versions (Win10, Win7, WinXP) that has always been there!
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 Pro 25H2AMD Ryzen 7 5700GKingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
OS
Windows 11 Pro 25H2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Build by vendor to my specs
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
Motherboard
MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
Memory
Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S24E450F 24"
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
1. SSD Crucial P5 Plus 500GB PCIe M.2
2. SSD-SATA Crucial MX500-2TB
PSU
Corsair CV650W
Case
Cooler Master Silencio S400
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper H412R with Be Quiet Pure Wings 2 PWM BL038 fan
Keyboard
Cherry Stream (wired, scissor keys)
Mouse
Asus WT465 (wireless)
Internet Speed
70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
Browser
Firefox 130.0
Antivirus
F-Secure (Internetprovider version)
Other Info
Router: FRITZBox 7490
Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
What does CU mean? Certainly not "see you"...
I searched for it, and it returns "Control Unit".
I'm baffled why people can't simply type the entire word(s). It only takes a millisecond more time.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 ProIntel Core i9-10900XCorsair 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) CMW64GX4M4C3000C15 ...GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1660 Super Mini ITX 6 GB OC
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Stigg's Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-10900X
    Motherboard
    GIGABYTE X299X DESIGNARE 10G
    Memory
    Corsair 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) CMW64GX4M4C3000C15 Vengeance RGB Pro 3000Mhz DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1660 Super Mini ITX 6 GB OC
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 27" FHD LED FreeSync Gaming Monitor (LS27F350FHEXXY)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Pro Series 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe SSD
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
    PSU
    Corsair HX1200 1200W 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 Black Solid Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black
    Keyboard
    Razer Ornata V2
    Mouse
    Razer DeathAdder Essential
    Internet Speed
    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    Logitech BRIO 4k Ultra HD USB-C Webcam
  • At a glance

    Windows 10 ProCore i7-8750HSK Hynix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) HMA82GS6CJR8N-VK 1...NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
    Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Zephyrus M GM501GS
    CPU
    Core i7-8750H
    Motherboard
    Zephyrus M GM501GS
    Memory
    SK Hynix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) HMA82GS6CJR8N-VK 16 GB DDR4-2666 DDR4 SDRAM
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC294
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AU Optronics B156HAN07.1 [15.6" LCD]
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung MZVKW512HMJP-00000 512 GB, PCI-E 3.0 x4
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 4TB 4 TB, SATA-III
    PSU
    N/A
    Case
    N/A
    Cooling
    N/A
    Keyboard
    PC/AT Enhanced PS2 Keyboard (101/102-Key)
    Mouse
    Razer DeathAdder Essential
    Internet Speed
    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    USB2.0 HD UVC Webcam
I'm not sure if you guys are joking around or not but just to avoid confusion for anyone who isn't sure - CU means "Cumulative Update" here (the monthly "Patch Tuesday" Windows Updates).
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 Professional 25H212th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12400F 2.50 GHz32GB (4x8GB) Kingston Fury RGB DDR4NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
OS
Windows 11 Professional 25H2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Home Built
CPU
12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12400F 2.50 GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte B760 DS3H AX DDR4
Memory
32GB (4x8GB) Kingston Fury RGB DDR4
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
Sound Card
Onboard Sound
Monitor(s) Displays
BenQ GL2460 (24 inch - oldie but a goodie)
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung SSD 870 EVO x 2 (250GB and 500GB) plus several external Samsung SSD's.
PSU
Corsair HX 750
Case
DeepCool
Cooling
Stock CPU cooler. 5 case fans (2 front, 2 top and 1 rear)
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
Logitech
Internet Speed
500/40 Fibre
Browser
Mozilla Firefox and Microsoft Edge
Antivirus
Windows Security
StartAllBack 3.9.0.5213 4 December 2024 (beta)

Another Update People
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 ProIntel Core i9 12900KFCorsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200MhzASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
OS
Windows 11 Pro
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Custom Build
CPU
Intel Core i9 12900KF
Motherboard
ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero
Memory
Corsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
Sound Card
OnBoard
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer Predator XB323UGP 32" QHD G-SYNC-C 144Hz 1MS IPS LED
Screen Resolution
2560 x 1440
Hard Drives
1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 250GB M.2 NVMe
1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 500GB M.2 NVMe
2x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 2TB M.2 NVMe
PSU
Corsair AX1200i 1200W 80PLUS Titanium Modular
Case
Corsair 4000D Black Case w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black CPU Cooler, 4x Noctua 120mm Fans
Keyboard
Logitech MK545
Mouse
Logitech MX Master 3
Internet Speed
Fixed Wireless 150mbps/75mbps
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
Kaspersky
Other Info
Thrustmaster TS-PC RACER
Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Load Cell Kit
Yamaha Amp with Bose Speakers
StartAllBack 3.9.0.5213 4 December 2024 (beta)

Another Update People

Quite a nice change with different color for an indicator bar for unfocused taskbar apps, but you know @Tihiy what would be even better? If these could be transparent for unfocused apps, at least as a toggleable option, and only be visible once indicator is used as a progres bar.

Plus it's not applied to non-plumped tabkbar, all tasks have the same blue indicator
 
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My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (WinMac v1.4.0)Intel Core i5-12400F16 GB (DDR4, 3200 MHz)NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (WinMac v1.4.0)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-12400F
    Motherboard
    B760 GAMING X DDR4
    Memory
    16 GB (DDR4, 3200 MHz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440 @ 240Hz
    Other Info
    I loved modding and customizing operating systems since very young age, gaining experience from all important systems, including Windows, Ubuntu, MacOS and Android, which led to creation of Windows 11 mod called WinMac. Seamlessly blending the elegance of macOS with the versatility of Windows, my customized interface elevates user experience through meticulously crafted modifications and UI enhancements.

    With WinMac, every interaction with Windows 11 environment is imbued with a touch of sophistication, where the boundaries between the Windows and Mac universes blur, offering a sublime computing experience that transcends conventional limitations of Windows 11.
  • At a glance

    macOS SonomaApple M3 Pro18 GB
    Operating System
    macOS Sonoma
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple MacBook Pro
    CPU
    Apple M3 Pro
    Memory
    18 GB

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 Pro 25H2AMD Ryzen 7 5700GKingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
OS
Windows 11 Pro 25H2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Build by vendor to my specs
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
Motherboard
MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
Memory
Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S24E450F 24"
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
1. SSD Crucial P5 Plus 500GB PCIe M.2
2. SSD-SATA Crucial MX500-2TB
PSU
Corsair CV650W
Case
Cooler Master Silencio S400
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper H412R with Be Quiet Pure Wings 2 PWM BL038 fan
Keyboard
Cherry Stream (wired, scissor keys)
Mouse
Asus WT465 (wireless)
Internet Speed
70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
Browser
Firefox 130.0
Antivirus
F-Secure (Internetprovider version)
Other Info
Router: FRITZBox 7490
Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
What does CU mean? Certainly not "see you"...
Where did you read that MS is planning to bring back the small icon option in future?
I can't find that anywhere.

Would be a huge advance, in former windows versions (Win10, Win7, WinXP) that has always been there!
CU => Cumulative Update
On the insider blog
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25h2Intel 10980XEG.Skill TridentZ RoyaleEVGA RTX 2080Ti Hydro Copper
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25h2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel 10980XE
    Motherboard
    Asus Rampage VI Extreme Encore
    Memory
    G.Skill TridentZ Royale
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2080Ti Hydro Copper
    Sound Card
    Asus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 27"
    Hard Drives
    Intel Optane P5801X
    Samsung 9100 Pro
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime TX 1000W
    Case
    Lian Li A77F
    Cooling
    Watercooling
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S
    Browser
    Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 24h2
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24h2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Pro
No change as far as the awful green progressbar is concerned!
Always the "big" progressbar without plumpness ?
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25h2Intel 10980XEG.Skill TridentZ RoyaleEVGA RTX 2080Ti Hydro Copper
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25h2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel 10980XE
    Motherboard
    Asus Rampage VI Extreme Encore
    Memory
    G.Skill TridentZ Royale
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2080Ti Hydro Copper
    Sound Card
    Asus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 27"
    Hard Drives
    Intel Optane P5801X
    Samsung 9100 Pro
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime TX 1000W
    Case
    Lian Li A77F
    Cooling
    Watercooling
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S
    Browser
    Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 24h2
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24h2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Pro
Old progress bar style is no mistake, it's a consistency with default "Win10 rounded" style. Allergic to greens?
 

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macOS
OS
macOS
Old progress bar style is no mistake, it's a consistency with default "Win10 rounded" style. Allergic to greens?
But the issue is that it is there on Windows 11 style, lol.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11
OS
Windows 11
Windows 11 style is new plump one, 3.8 was interim one, I can't believe it's a smash hit / makes any real difference.
 

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macOS
OS
macOS
Windows 11 style is new plump one, 3.8 was interim one, I can't believe it's a smash hit / makes any real difference.
It's not THAT important, but to be honest, I do prefer the older style as well, while the plump features are nice, I see no point for them at all, not to mention they also modify the progress bar, there is no option left with the regular 24H2 progress bar.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11
OS
Windows 11
I think, the only 2 things I have, that show progress, are MPC and AIMP..., rarely look at 'em, not a big deal for me! 🤷‍♂️

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My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
  • ASUS VivoBook 'Lite' ~ Windows 11 Home
But the issue is that it is there on Windows 11 style, lol.
Even with the Windows 10 option, the W11 24h2 progressbar was very good, prettier, but "not consistent"
Probably because of this ugly green, which was less visible
With the accent color, it would not be disturbing at all

Or leave the choice to the user for the explorer (as current) and the taskbar, to please everyone
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25h2Intel 10980XEG.Skill TridentZ RoyaleEVGA RTX 2080Ti Hydro Copper
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25h2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel 10980XE
    Motherboard
    Asus Rampage VI Extreme Encore
    Memory
    G.Skill TridentZ Royale
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2080Ti Hydro Copper
    Sound Card
    Asus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 27"
    Hard Drives
    Intel Optane P5801X
    Samsung 9100 Pro
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime TX 1000W
    Case
    Lian Li A77F
    Cooling
    Watercooling
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S
    Browser
    Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 24h2
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24h2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Pro
Windows 11 style is new plump one, 3.8 was interim one, I can't believe it's a smash hit / makes any real difference.
The progressbar in 3.8 (24h2 style) was the best (regardless if the explorer option was on 10 or 11)
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25h2Intel 10980XEG.Skill TridentZ RoyaleEVGA RTX 2080Ti Hydro Copper
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25h2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel 10980XE
    Motherboard
    Asus Rampage VI Extreme Encore
    Memory
    G.Skill TridentZ Royale
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2080Ti Hydro Copper
    Sound Card
    Asus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 27"
    Hard Drives
    Intel Optane P5801X
    Samsung 9100 Pro
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime TX 1000W
    Case
    Lian Li A77F
    Cooling
    Watercooling
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S
    Browser
    Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 24h2
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24h2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Pro
I miss being able to drag the Main Taskbar to a secondary monitor! :confused:
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
  • ASUS VivoBook 'Lite' ~ Windows 11 Home
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