The passwordless future is here for your Microsoft account


I don’t know a single person who enjoys managing passwords. Given how much of my life is spent online and in various apps, keeping track of it all, ensuring they’re unique and regularly updated – it can quickly become overwhelming for me – and I’m a techie!

Which is why I’m so excited about today’s announcement that now you can remove the password from your Microsoft account and sign in using passwordless methods like Windows Hello, the Microsoft Authenticator mobile app or a verification code sent to your phone or email. This feature will help to protect your Microsoft account from identity attacks like phishing while providing even easier access to the best apps and services like Microsoft 365, Microsoft Teams, Outlook, OneDrive, Family Safety, Microsoft Edge and more. It’s so easy to go passwordless, I encourage everyone check out Vasu’s blog post for more details on how to get started today.

We also know that everyone is on their own passwordless journey, and the world isn’t entirely password-less yet. Which is why we’ve built tools that meet you where you are today and help keep your current passwords secure for other sites. In Microsoft Edge, for example, we have a comprehensive password management system with Password Monitor, password generator and the password health dashboard (1).

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Now you can easily set Microsoft Edge to monitor the passwords you use across the web and alert you if one has been compromised, prompting you to update your password. Password generator helps you automatically create strong passwords when you create new accounts online – no more reusing the same password across sites! And the dashboard gives you one place to view your passwords across sites, letting you know if they’re strong enough and whether they’ve been used on other sites. You can also access your Microsoft Edge passwords on the go from the Microsoft Authenticator app when you sign in with your Microsoft account. And all of this is done with your privacy in mind – the underlying technology helps ensure that neither Microsoft nor any other party can learn your passwords while they’re being monitored in Microsoft Edge. If you’re not already using Microsoft Edge, you can learn more here.

Whether you need help managing your passwords more securely and easily or you’re going passwordless across all of your Microsoft apps and services, we have the tools to help keep you and your family safer across your digital world. We look forward to sharing more with you as we continue on the passwordless journey.

1 Password Monitor, password generator and the password health dashboard are available on the latest version of Microsoft Edge. Must be signed into a Microsoft account.

Nobody likes passwords. They’re inconvenient. They’re a prime target for attacks. Yet for years they’ve been the most important layer of security for everything in our digital lives—from email to bank accounts, shopping carts to video games.

We are expected to create complex and unique passwords, remember them, and change them frequently, but nobody likes doing that either. In a recent Microsoft Twitter poll, one in five people reported they would rather accidentally “reply all”—which can be monumentally embarrassing—than reset a password.
But what alternative do we have?

For the past couple of years, we’ve been saying that the future is passwordless, and today I am excited to announce the next step in that vision. In March 2021, we announced that passwordless sign in was generally available for commercial users, bringing the feature to enterprise organizations around the world.

Beginning today, you can now completely remove the password from your Microsoft account. Use the Microsoft Authenticator app, Windows Hello, a security key, or a verification code sent to your phone or email to sign in to your favorite apps and services, such as Microsoft Outlook, Microsoft OneDrive, Microsoft Family Safety, and more. This feature will be rolled out over the coming weeks.



The problem with passwords

My friend, Bret Arsenault, our Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) here at Microsoft likes to say, “Hackers don’t break in, they log in.” That has stuck with me ever since I first heard him say it because it’s so true.

Weak passwords are the entry point for the majority of attacks across enterprise and consumer accounts. There are a whopping 579 password attacks every second—that’s 18 billion every year.

Why are passwords so vulnerable? There are two big reasons.

Human nature

Except for auto-generated passwords that are nearly impossible to remember, we largely create our own passwords. But, given the vulnerability of passwords, requirements for them have gotten increasingly complex in recent years, including multiple symbols, numbers, case sensitivity, and disallowing previous passwords. Updates are often required on a regular basis, yet to create passwords that are both secure enough and memorable enough is a challenge. Passwords are incredibly inconvenient to create, remember, and manage across all the accounts in our lives.

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Forgetting a password can be painful too. I was shocked to learn that nearly a third of people say they completely stop using an account or service rather than dealing with a lost password. That’s not only a problem for the person stuck in the password cycle, but also for businesses losing customers.

To solve these problems and create passwords we can remember, we try and make things easier for ourselves. We often rely on known and personal words and phrases. One of our recent surveys found that 15 percent of people use their pets’ names for password inspiration. Other common answers included family names and important dates like birthdays. We also found 1 in 10 people admitted reusing passwords across sites, and 40 percent say they’ve used a formula for their passwords, like Fall2021, which eventually becomes Winter2021 or Spring2022.

Hacker nature

Unfortunately, while such passwords may be easier to remember, they are also easier for a hacker to guess. A quick look at someone’s social media can give any hacker a head start on logging into their personal accounts. Once that password and email combination has been compromised, it’s often sold on the dark web for use in any number of attacks.

Hackers also have a lot of tools and techniques. They can use automated password spraying to try many possibilities quickly. They can use phishing to trick you into putting your credentials into a fake website. These tactics are relatively unsophisticated and have been in play for decades, but they continue to work because passwords continue to be created by humans.

Go passwordless today with a few quick clicks

First, ensure you have the Microsoft Authenticator app installed and linked to your personal Microsoft account.

Next, visit your Microsoft account, sign in, and choose Advanced Security Options. Under Additional Security Options, you’ll see Passwordless Account. Select Turn on.

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Finally, follow the on-screen prompts, and then approve the notification from your Authenticator app. Once you’ve approved, you’re free from your password!

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If you decide you prefer using a password, you can always add it back to your account. But I hope you’ll give passwordless a try—I don’t think you’ll want to go back.

Learn more about going passwordless

We’ve heard great feedback from our enterprise customers who have been on the passwordless journey with us. In fact, Microsoft itself is a great test case—nearly 100 percent of our employees use passwordless options to log in to their corporate accounts.

You can read more about our passwordless journey in a blog from Joy Chik, Corporate Vice President of Identity, or hear more about the benefits for people using Edge or Microsoft 365 apps from Liat Ben-Zur. To learn more about how Microsoft solutions, such as Microsoft Azure Active Directory and Microsoft Authenticator, are allowing users in organizations to forget their passwords while staying protected, join our digital event Your Passwordless Future Starts Now on October 13, 2021.

Learn more about enabling passwordless sign-in with the Microsoft Authenticator app here.

To learn more about Microsoft Security solutions, visit our website. Bookmark the Security blog to keep up with our expert coverage on security matters. Also, follow us at @MSFTSecurity for the latest news and updates on cybersecurity.


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I always use automatic log on with Netplwiz, works for me but the new password less looks very good.
 

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So MS says that passwords are OK as long as they are safe, thus Edge creates 15 characters long passwords. :lmao:
2FA is already dangerous, imagine loosing access to your authentications = loosing access to your account, forever.

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By the way passwordless accounts are here for decades, you can register using FB, Google or MS, like on this forum.
But I still trust an offline verification for vital accounts, that includes saving backup codes, make sure you have those.
 

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It is a non starter for me as I use IMAP for Thunderbird on my PC, and this requires a password.Not sure about Outlook on my iPhone, but I suspect the same issue. Bitwarden with separate 2FA are fine for those account that accept 2FA. My bank, like many other, are still lagging behind and use a secret question.
 

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Hi,
Passwordless yeah swap that for a cell phone number much easier to track you all the time lol

Then wait for it, pass code which was created after talking you out of using that pesky password you haven't forgotten but ms thinks you will someday
But wait don't forget any of them because now you also have several questions/ answers to remember to lol

Just jumping jellybeans features.
 

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I don't like going without passwords for several reasons:
  1. If you create a cipher pattern to your passwords, it's easier to remember, such as [Site-letter-code]-[4-digits]_initials! . The 4 digits are something unique and easy to remember but also not simple (e.g. 1234). For example Eleven-4531_GL! . This is a strong enough password for most purposes. For financial or major shopping site, increase the complexity.
  2. You can have a 2-step authentication, using an app on your phone. Why not just have the authenticator? Simple. What if someone steals your phone and manages to break through the phone authentication? Your security is totally breached.
  3. Not everything has to be 2-step. And what if you need to use a different computer where your passwords aren't stored? I don't like the idea of logging in with Google in Chrome and "inheriting" the coded passwords to be used in that session. No guarantee that they'll be cleared out when you close and then a program might have the chance to reverse engineer those codes to discover passwords.
 

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You can have a 2-step authentication, using an app on your phone. Why not just have the authenticator? Simple. What if someone steals your phone and manages to break through the phone authentication? Your security is totally breached.
Well said. 2FA on the same device is technically 1FA only. And whether it is SMS, email or app, it is all on the phone.
Imagine having all your passwords stored in MS account. One mistake and you loose it all. Worse than ransomware.

I use a standalone password manager, where I store most passwords, but not core ones, they are stored offline in a double encrypted file. Email recovery emails should not be interconnected. If someone gets access to one your accounts, he will gain access to all. My recovery email is linked to my government ID. You could also use something like FIDO key and hide under a doormat or a flower pot.
 

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It is a non starter for me as I use IMAP for Thunderbird on my PC, and this requires a password.Not sure about Outlook on my iPhone, but I suspect the same issue. Bitwarden with separate 2FA are fine for those account that accept 2FA. My bank, like many other, are still lagging behind and use a secret question.
Yeah, how would I use Thunderbird (or any third party e-mail client) to access either IMAP or POP3 e-mail if I remove the password from my Hotmail/Outlook/Microsoft accounts? Do I need to keep my cell phone nearby and keep answering Authenticator requests?
 

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I don't like going without passwords for several reasons:
  1. If you create a cipher pattern to your passwords, it's easier to remember, such as [Site-letter-code]-[4-digits]_initials! . The 4 digits are something unique and easy to remember but also not simple (e.g. 1234). For example Eleven-4531_GL! . This is a strong enough password for most purposes. For financial or major shopping site, increase the complexity.
  2. You can have a 2-step authentication, using an app on your phone. Why not just have the authenticator? Simple. What if someone steals your phone and manages to break through the phone authentication? Your security is totally breached.
  3. Not everything has to be 2-step. And what if you need to use a different computer where your passwords aren't stored? I don't like the idea of logging in with Google in Chrome and "inheriting" the coded passwords to be used in that session. No guarantee that they'll be cleared out when you close and then a program might have the chance to reverse engineer those codes to discover passwords.
I use the same system as cytherian with at least 18 characters. The password for this forum is 19 charactors using acronyms, upper case, numbers and characters. Some of my passwords have 26 elements, except for PayPal which only allows 20. I have no trouble remembering them as they follow a format which is intuative to me.
For instance, if you were once in the armed forces, your number will be engraved indelably in your brain and could be the central part of a long password. Funny thing is that I can remember my fathers number that he had in the second world war, and yet I cannot remember the house telephone number.
 

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My gripe with passwords, is you never know what level of complexity the site used when you created the password. I use permutations of a basic (intuitive to me) pattern of characters, depending on if uppercase and/or special characters are required, and if there is a minimum/maximum number of characters. However, when I visit a site after a long absence and it prompts me for a password, I no longer remember the rules on use of uppercase/special characters and password length. I've started including uppercase and special characters with a minimum of 8 characters when creating new passwords, but there are plenty of older passwords from the past where I can't remember the parameters.
 

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My primary Windows desktop is at home and I am using a local account. I see no need for a password or any other authentication method :cool:
 

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So many of these outfits requiring 2FA insist on a cell# or smart phone. Well, I don't have one so they're no use to me. Many times I've tried to authenticate via my email and right away their AI wants a cell phone #. They don't list a land line as an option.
:lmao:
2FA is already dangerous, imagine loosing access to your authentications = loosing access to your account, forever.

I know of several people this has happened to despite the fact that they kept written logs of their passwords and associated email accounts.
 

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DIY, ASUS, and DELL
CPU
Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)
Motherboard
ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1 and ASUS X299 SAGE
Memory
128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
Sound Card
Crystal Sound (onboard)
Monitor(s) Displays
single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
Screen Resolution
4K and something equally attrocious. I'll be working on this.
Hard Drives
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

RAID arrays included:

LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
PSU
SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
Case
ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
Cooling
Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers.
Keyboard
all kinds.
Mouse
all kinds
Internet Speed
360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
Browser
FIREFOX
Antivirus
KASPERSKY (no apologies)
Other Info
Gave Dell touch screen with Windows 11 to daughter and got me an OTVOC. Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
I enabled Windows Hello, set up a PN and deleted my password prompt and changed the registry to remove password login.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Education For 25H2Intel® Core i7 5500u8 GBIntel HD Family Graphics 5500 AMD Firepro 4150M
    OS
    Windows 11 Education For 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP ZBook G2
    CPU
    Intel® Core i7 5500u
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Family Graphics 5500 AMD Firepro 4150M
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Audio
    Hard Drives
    1 TB SSD
    Mouse
    HP USB Mouse
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro For Workstations 25H2Xeon 1535m v632 GBAMD Quadro Pro 4100
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro For Workstations 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Zbook G4
    CPU
    Xeon 1535m v6
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Quadro Pro 4100
    Sound Card
    Bang and Olufson Audio
    Hard Drives
    1TB SSD
    Mouse
    HP USB Mouse
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
I enabled Windows Hello, set up a PN and deleted my password prompt and changed the registry to remove password login.
The next time that an update invalidates your PIN, how exactly are you going to get into your account? Just scan the forum, it's happened a number of times.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.9457Intel Core i5 14500, 14th Generation64GB DDR4GeForce RTX 4060
    OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.9457
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14500, 14th Generation
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 45" Ultragear & Acer 24" 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    5120x1440 & 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
    Silicon Power 2TB US75 NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 SSD (backup)
    Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND (2nd backup)
    Seagate 4TB Ironwolf, rotating HDD secondary backup
    External off-line backup Drives: 2 NVMe 4TB drives in external enclosures
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
    Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
    Cooling
    Lots of fans!
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
  • At a glance

    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.9168Intel Core i5 1440032GB DDR5Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.9168
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    Seagate 4TB Ironwolf, rotating HDD secondary backup
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
  • Nimo N171 17" Laptop, (Intel i3-1215U, 16GB RAM, 2TB NVMe, Win11 Pro)
    Acemagic Vista Mini PC V1 (Intel N150, 16GB RAM, 1TB NVMe, Win11 Pro)
    HP ENVY h8-1540t, (24GB RAM, 2TB SSD, 2TB HDD, Win11 Pro)
I have my Microsoft Account setup with a passkey and security key (Yubikey) for logon on the web. If I or Microsoft blows away my Windows Hello password on my laptop or other PC's I can get it back by using my Yubikey for identification. Works like a charm...
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 & Zorin ProIntel® Core™ Ultra 9 Processor 275HX 2.7 GHz32 gbNVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 5060 Laptop GPU
    OS
    Windows 11 & Zorin Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Rog Strix G16
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ Ultra 9 Processor 275HX 2.7 GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusteK Computer
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 5060 Laptop GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Laptop 16 inch
    Screen Resolution
    2560 X 1600
    Hard Drives
    Boot: Samsung 9100 NVME 2 TB Microsoft Storage Controller: Standard NVM Express Driver: Microsoft 6/21/2006. No SATA/AHCI on my motherboard or in bios
    Mouse
    Pad
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Microsoft
    Other Info
    Printer: HP Color LaserJet MFP M477dw
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro, Zorin ProIntel Nuc 8i7, Intel Nuc 8i5Intel internal
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro, Zorin Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel
    CPU
    Intel Nuc 8i7, Intel Nuc 8i5
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel internal
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U27
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Mouse
    Dell USB
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Dell 8500 Windows 10 Pro extended, Dell 8700 Windows 10 Pro extended , Hp Pavilion Linux
I use facial recognition as the primary authentication for Windows. Also have a PIN, If I get stuck, I have the MS Authenticator app on my phone. No problems if one plans for potential issues at login time. Haven't used a PW with my MS Account or for Windows login for many years.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 26H2Intel Core i9 13900KCorsair Dominator Platinum 64gb 5600MT/s DDR5...Sapphire NITRO+ AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-...
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 26H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 13900K
    Motherboard
    Asus ProArt Z790 Creator WiFi - Bios 3202
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 64gb 5600MT/s DDR5 Dual Channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire NITRO+ AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-X 24GB
    Sound Card
    External DAC: Cambridge Audio DACMagic200M - Headphone Amps: Topping L70 & SMSL H400
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S95F OLED 55" TV
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 120hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (OS)
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (Files)
    Lexar NZ790 4TB
    LaCie d2 Professional 6TB external - USB 3.1
    Seagate Expansion 16TB external - USB 3.2
    Seagate One Touch 18TB external HD - USB 3.0
    PSU
    Corsair RM1200x Shift
    Case
    Corsair RGB Smart Case 5000x (white)
    Cooling
    NAUTILUS 360 RS Liquid CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    Incase Ergonomic USB (Microsoft clone)
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    Fibre 900/500 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    AMD Radeon Software & Drivers
    Hasleo Backup Suite
    Dashlane password manager
    Kensington Verimark fingerprint reader
    Logitech Brio 4K webcam
    Orico 10-port powered USB 3.0 hub
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2Intel® Core™ i9-13900H32GB DDR4-3200 Dual channel*Intel Iris Xᵉ Graphics G7
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Vivobook X1605VA
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i9-13900H
    Motherboard
    Asus X1605VA bios 309
    Memory
    32GB DDR4-3200 Dual channel
    Graphics card(s)
    *Intel Iris Xᵉ Graphics G7
    Sound Card
    Realtek | Intel SST Bluetooth & USB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.0-inch, WUXGA 16:10 aspect ratio, IPS-level Panel
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 60hz
    Hard Drives
    512GB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 3.0 SSD
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Ergo Trackball
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    720p Webcam
    WiFi & USB to ethernet
A Windows login PIN can fail and require a password when Windows Hello encounters corrupted NGC folder data (your system files that store your PIN become corrupted), a recent system update or security patch glitches the Windows Hello biometric or PIN authentication service, at times when entering Safe Mode, and when the PC loses its connection to verify online account credentials after changing a Microsoft password on another device. Also some of these may require you to re-create your PIN once you login.

Thought I'd add your PIN only works on that one PC. Your password is the master credential for your Microsoft account or local Windows account. So, you may not want to rely solely on the PIN as the only credential and keep your password and Microsoft-account recovery information available.
 
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My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 25H2Intel Core Ultra 9 275HX (24-Core)64GB DDR5 6400MT/sNVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 and Intel UHD Graphics
    OS
    Windows 11 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware 18 Area-51
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 9 275HX (24-Core)
    Motherboard
    Alienware
    Memory
    64GB DDR5 6400MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 and Intel UHD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Onboard, Realtek high-performance Audio chips (ALC3329 & ALC1708))
    Monitor(s) Displays
    300HZ 18-inch QHD 500 nit Comfort View+
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2TB NVMe M.2 PCIe Gen 5 SSD
    Case
    Magnesium Alloy
    Cooling
    Advanced Cryo-Tech Quad-Fan Cooling system & large vapor chamber
    Keyboard
    Cherry MX ultra low profile mechanical keyboard with per key AlienFX RGB lighting
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 4
    Browser
    Vivaldi (main), Firefox, Chrome, Edge
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes Free
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 26H2Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite (12 Core) ARM bas...16GB LPDDR5Qualcomm Adreno X1-85
    Operating System
    Windows 11 26H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Laptop 7
    CPU
    Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite (12 Core) ARM based CPU
    Motherboard
    Microsoft Corp.
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Qualcomm Adreno X1-85
    Sound Card
    Omnisonic speakers with Dolby Atmos spatial sound
    Monitor(s) Displays
    120 Hz 13.8-inch 600 nit PixelSense Flow touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    2304x1536
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVMe Gen 4 SSD
    Case
    Anodized Aluminum
    Cooling
    Traditional active cooling fan system
    Keyboard
    Mechanical QWERTY, backlit when in use
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 4 and Surface Arc Mouse
    Browser
    Vivaldi (main), Firefox, Chrome, Edge
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes Free
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