Solved Updating Secure Boot on Alienware Aurora R7


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I am a newcomer to Powershell and have run the suggested Check_UEFI-CA2023.ps1 with the attached result. My machine is a Dell Aurora R7 and I understand Dell no longer supports this pc. Do the check results look as though I can now run the Update UEFI file? It says Bitlocker OFF and Boot file is BANNED. Also, to finish the UEFI steps to manually add the KEK CA 2023 certificate. Will it give instructions on how to do this in the next step?
Help and advice appreciated, thank you.
 

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The last BIOS update for Aurora R7 was Feb 2022. I reviewed the Confidence Bucket data, and it doesn't appear there's a submitted KEK CA 2023 for this model.

Which means you should proceed:

1. Confirm Windows Hello PIN isn't enabled. Because if we clear the Secure Boot keys, you can't use PIN to logon.

2. Under the Secure Boot menu, look for the setting to change from Standard to Custom Mode.

3. Look for the setting to Delete All Keys.

4. Restart Windows. Run the update script, it should install a set of replacement certs from MS (including the missing KEK CA 2023).

5. Re-run the check script.
 

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Thank you for the guidance. However, the only two options under the Secure Boot menu either seem to be "Enabled" or "Disabled". I can't see "Custom" unless I am looking in the wrong place?
 

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Unfortunately, it looks like the R7 BIOS doesn't allow you to modify any real Secure Boot settings:

Aurora R7 Service Manual | Dell US
Boot List OptionDisplays the available boot devices.
File Browser Add Boot OptionAllows you to set the boot path in the boot option list.
File Browser Del Boot OptionAllows you to delete the boot path in the boot option list.
Secure Boot ControlAllows you to enable or disable the secure boot control.
Load Legacy OPROM Allows you to enable or disable the Legacy Option ROM.
Boot Option PrioritiesDisplays the available boot devices.
Boot Option #1Displays the first boot device. Default: UEFI: Windows Boot Manager.
Boot Option #2Displays the second boot device. Default: Onboard NIC Device.
Boot Option #3Displays the third boot device. Default: Onboard NIC Device.

Because Windows can't update your BIOS, it will continue to throw Secure Boot update errors in the event logs. But your Windows will still work. I'm afraid there's not much you can do without an UEFI feature to manually change the keys.
 

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Most grateful for your clear answer. At least I am now aware of how things stand :cool:
 

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I have two Acer laptops running 25H2 and with the InsydeH20 UEFI BIOS. Windows update did a partial certificate update but failed as the new KEK has not been provided by the OEM. Using garlin's manual suggestion I copied "microsoft corporation kek 2k ca 2023.der" to the EFI folder. The BIOS appears to have the option to add it but I cannot see the file to select it.

Will running garlin's update script perform the update using the Microsoft KEK?
If I wait is it likely that Windows will retry and eventually succeed using either an OEM or Microsoft KEK?
 

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I have two Acer laptops running 25H2 and with the InsydeH20 UEFI BIOS. Windows update did a partial certificate update but failed as the new KEK has not been provided by the OEM. Using garlin's manual suggestion I copied "microsoft corporation kek 2k ca 2023.der" to the EFI folder. The BIOS appears to have the option to add it but I cannot see the file to select it.

Will running garlin's update script perform the update using the Microsoft KEK?
If I wait is it likely that Windows will retry and eventually succeed using either an OEM or Microsoft KEK?
You should probably ask on the main thread:
garlin's PowerShell scripts for updating Secure Boot CA 2023

In order to see the file, you should browse the listed disk devices for the cert file. If it's under a subfolder, you will have to change folders to find it.
 

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Thanks for the very quick reply. I have reposted as suggested.

Re the folder, the option is "Select an UEFI file as trusted for executing". When I do that it lists HDD0 and hitting enter again appears to select <EFI>. That has a list of folders but no files.
 

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Maybe "Updating Secure Boot on Alienware Aurora R7"?

Sometimes the answer is highly dependent on your PC model (as much of the Secure Boot update process). Includingg the model in the thread's name makes it easier to know if the discussion may not apply to other PC models.
 

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Unfortunately, it looks like the R7 BIOS doesn't allow you to modify any real Secure Boot settings:

Aurora R7 Service Manual | Dell US
Boot List OptionDisplays the available boot devices.
File Browser Add Boot OptionAllows you to set the boot path in the boot option list.
File Browser Del Boot OptionAllows you to delete the boot path in the boot option list.
Secure Boot ControlAllows you to enable or disable the secure boot control.
Load Legacy OPROM Allows you to enable or disable the Legacy Option ROM.
Boot Option PrioritiesDisplays the available boot devices.
Boot Option #1Displays the first boot device. Default: UEFI: Windows Boot Manager.
Boot Option #2Displays the second boot device. Default: Onboard NIC Device.
Boot Option #3Displays the third boot device. Default: Onboard NIC Device.

Because Windows can't update your BIOS, it will continue to throw Secure Boot update errors in the event logs. But your Windows will still work. I'm afraid there's not much you can do without an UEFI feature to manually change the keys.

Two other menus may be of interest in addition to the "Boot" menu. These are "Advanced" (which doesn't seem to have anything useful) and, on my Aurora R7 at least, "Security" which up until half an hour ago seemed to have a subset of the Key management settings. I have, however, seemingly lost those menu entries now.

If I try to booth from a USB drive with a EFI\BOOT\Bootx64.efi on it (copied from C:\Windows\Boot\EFI\SecureBootRecovery.efi) I get the attached screen - however, Windows Security is still complaining that my R7 "does not support the automated Secure Boot certificate update due to hardware or firmware limitations" :(

Any ideas?

Oh yeah - I have 3 boot partitions (Win11 Work, Win10, Win10 Games)

If I run:

([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes) -match 'Windows UEFI CA 2023')

In Terminal (Admin) I get the response "True"
 

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Have you tried adding a BIOS Admin password? Sometimes you can't access the advanced Secure Boot options without one.
 

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Have you tried adding a BIOS Admin password? Sometimes you can't access the advanced Secure Boot options without one.

Thanks for that idea - I turned my Aurora R7 on today and found that the Security settings I couldn't find last night are back. <shrug>

So, anyway, if I select the "Security" menu and scroll down I can see a "Secure Boot" item that separate from the one in the "Boot" menu.

You can't select the"Key Management" button until you change the "Secure Boot Mode" to "Custom"

Selecting "Key Management" brings up a whole new menu... which is about where I'm stuck, having seen my final screen capture too often today! But I shall press on...
 

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1. Disable Secure Boot mode for now.
2. Under "Key Exchange Keys", is that a line for reporting or does it expand into a sub-menu? Load the cert file.
3. Or if you don't have a sub-menu, then select "Delete All Secure Boot Variables".
 

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Thanks for that idea - I turned my Aurora R7 on today and found that the Security settings I couldn't find last night are back. <shrug>

So, anyway, if I select the "Security" menu and scroll down I can see a "Secure Boot" item that separate from the one in the "Boot" menu.

You can't select the"Key Management" button until you change the "Secure Boot Mode" to "Custom"

Selecting "Key Management" brings up a whole new menu... which is about where I'm stuck, having seen my final screen capture too often today! But I shall press on...
So far as I can see, if I leave the "Secure Boot Mode" setting in the "Security" menu set to "Custom", Windows Security is happy. If I change it back to "Standard" then Windows Security becomes unhappy again - so it looks like "Standard" resets the keys back to factory settings? Do we think it's correct to leave it on "Custom" because the new keys ARE my "Custom" setup?

I'm afraid I have messed around and tried too many combinations to be sure enough to write a list of steps to go through to reach my current semi-happy state.

Cheers,

Cliff
 

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1. Disable Secure Boot mode for now.
2. Under "Key Exchange Keys", is that a line for reporting or does it expand into a sub-menu? Load the cert file.
3. Or if you don't have a sub-menu, then select "Delete All Secure Boot Variables".

If I disable Secure Boot, the Security menu hides the Secure Boot menu so I can't make other changes.

"Key Exchange Keys" does indeed throw up a new menu, which I'm less familiar with (having not seen it before just now) as attached.

Cheers,

Cliff
 

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You want Append, and look for the .der or .crt file.
On some motherboards, Append has two meanings: If choose Yes, it lets you append a certificate from among the current certs. If choose No, it redirects you to choose certs from a usb flash disk or from internal disk drive. USB is preferable as it is easy to locate by the phrase USB. USB disk must be fat32 formatted, preferably.
 

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On some motherboards, Append has two meanings: If choose Yes, it lets you append a certificate from among the current certs. If choose No, it redirects you to choose certs from a usb flash disk or from internal disk drive. USB is preferable as it is easy to locate by the phrase USB. USB disk must be fat32 formatted, preferably.
On my Alienware Aurora R7 it asks me to find a file. I'm searching my SSD for a .der or .crt now, but it's taking ages :(

I suspect I need to download it from somewhere....


Like possibly "microsoft corporation kek 2k ca 2023.der" from "GitHub - microsoft/secureboot_objects: Secure boot objects recommended by Microsoft." ?
 

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    Teams DDR3-1600 4x4 GB
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If you have not downloaded the certificate file, it will not be on your disk drives.
That would account for my not being able to find either file. I guess I'll try with the "microsoft corporation kek 2k ca 2023.der" and see if that blows my PC up.
 

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