Why Windows 11?


You've got a point there!

Come to think of it...,

30 years ago, we had to wait til we got home at night to call someone or, write a letter to someone overseas!




... we got on okay! :wink:
I had a cell phone in 1990??
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 22631.3374
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Digital Storm Velox
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-10940X
    Motherboard
    MSI X299 PRO (Intel X299 Chipset) (Up to 4x PCI-E Devices)
    Memory
    128 GB DDR4 3200 MHz Corsair Vengance LPX
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Black
    Sound Card
    Integrated Motherboard Audio-Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    CORSAIR XENEON 32QHD
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    2 Samsung 980 Pro NVME 2TB
    1x Storage (6TB Western Digital
    PSU
    Corsair / EVGA / Thermaltake (Modular) (80 Plus Gold)
    Case
    VELOX
    Cooling
    H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Dual Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
    Keyboard
    Corsair K63 Wireless
    Mouse
    Corsair M65 Pro
    Internet Speed
    1000Gb's Down-20 Up
    Browser
    Firefox 124.0.1
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Cyber power CP1350AVRLCD -UPS
    NVIDIA 551.86 Driver
  • Operating System
    Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC13ANHi3
    CPU
    Intel Core i3 1315u
    Motherboard
    NUC13AN
    Memory
    64GB GSKILL DDR4 3200
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel On Board
    Sound Card
    Intel on Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 2419HGCF
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB Crucial M2NVME
    PSU
    External 90 Watt
    Case
    NUC Tall
    Cooling
    Fan
    Mouse
    Razer
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Internet Speed
    1GB
    Browser
    Slimjet 43.0.1.0
    Other Info
    quiet & fast
I would not have trust in anything cloud based.
I would rather have my OS on my PC and not on the cloud. First off it's not a distrust of the cloud as much as it's the time it would take in install the OS every time I turn it on. Second,., it makes no sense to me to have the OS on the cloud. It's not like storage is that expensive and keeping an OS on a PC is hard.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3350
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viotek 32", 28" ASUS VP28U
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    Zalman i3 NEO
    Cooling
    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
    Keyboard
    Corsair
    Mouse
    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Internet Speed
    Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
    Browser
    Firefox and Edge
    Antivirus
    MS - Defender
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
I would rather have my OS on my PC and not on the cloud. First off it's not a distrust of the cloud as much as it's the time it would take in install the OS every time I turn it on. Second,., it makes no sense to me to have the OS on the cloud. It's not like storage is that expensive and keeping an OS on a PC is hard.
Who is going to have control over "The Cloud" No country would trust the other one.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 22631.3374
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Digital Storm Velox
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-10940X
    Motherboard
    MSI X299 PRO (Intel X299 Chipset) (Up to 4x PCI-E Devices)
    Memory
    128 GB DDR4 3200 MHz Corsair Vengance LPX
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Black
    Sound Card
    Integrated Motherboard Audio-Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    CORSAIR XENEON 32QHD
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    2 Samsung 980 Pro NVME 2TB
    1x Storage (6TB Western Digital
    PSU
    Corsair / EVGA / Thermaltake (Modular) (80 Plus Gold)
    Case
    VELOX
    Cooling
    H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Dual Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
    Keyboard
    Corsair K63 Wireless
    Mouse
    Corsair M65 Pro
    Internet Speed
    1000Gb's Down-20 Up
    Browser
    Firefox 124.0.1
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Cyber power CP1350AVRLCD -UPS
    NVIDIA 551.86 Driver
  • Operating System
    Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC13ANHi3
    CPU
    Intel Core i3 1315u
    Motherboard
    NUC13AN
    Memory
    64GB GSKILL DDR4 3200
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel On Board
    Sound Card
    Intel on Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 2419HGCF
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB Crucial M2NVME
    PSU
    External 90 Watt
    Case
    NUC Tall
    Cooling
    Fan
    Mouse
    Razer
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Internet Speed
    1GB
    Browser
    Slimjet 43.0.1.0
    Other Info
    quiet & fast
I think a big part of the creation of Windows 11 is the realization that you can't exactly discontinue things or make sweeping changes on an incremental update. With a major update, the expectation that big changes are going to be made is baked in... while with non-major updates people expect everything they can do in that OS to keep working the exact same way they had it.

You can't exactly remove Internet Explorer, or redesign the taskbar from the ground up, or install Windows Terminal by default with an incremental update and expect people to be happy. I feel like a new version at least puts these changes into an easier to digest context.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    EVOO LP-6
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-9750H
    Memory
    16 GB RAM 2666
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia RTX 2060
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p 1TB NVMe SSD
    Sabrent Rocket 1TB NVMe SSD
    WD Black 750 GB SATA HDD 7200 RPM
    Mouse
    Logitech G703
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox Beta
I think a big part of the creation of Windows 11 is the realization that you can't exactly discontinue things or make sweeping changes on an incremental update. With a major update, the expectation that big changes are going to be made is baked in... while with non-major updates people expect everything they can do in that OS to keep working the exact same way they had it.

You can't exactly remove Internet Explorer, or redesign the taskbar from the ground up, or install Windows Terminal by default with an incremental update and expect people to be happy. I feel like a new version at least puts these changes into an easier to digest context.
Makes loads of sense.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3350
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viotek 32", 28" ASUS VP28U
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    Zalman i3 NEO
    Cooling
    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
    Keyboard
    Corsair
    Mouse
    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Internet Speed
    Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
    Browser
    Firefox and Edge
    Antivirus
    MS - Defender
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
I had a cell phone in 1990??
Come to think of it..., I think we started out with those bag phones in the work trucks so we wouldn't have to drive to a phone booth with a dime to order concrete! ... somewhere in the mid 80's I think.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
Windows versions are like Star Trek Movies - odd numbers were crap even numbers were fine.

I hated 7, and I hate 11 so far.

8 was fine (once you added start menu, 10 is good.

Roll on number 12.


W11 is just 10 with a GUI designed by 5 year olds.

Things that fitted ok in a screen have been changed for lists that you have to scroll. Everything is 1D now.

So sad.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0
Come to think of it..., I think we started out with those bag phones in the work trucks so we wouldn't have to drive to a phone booth with a dime to order concrete! ... somewhere in the mid 80's I think.
I had one mounted in my Van. It was very costly to my employer though. One month the bill was over $700.00
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 22631.3374
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Digital Storm Velox
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-10940X
    Motherboard
    MSI X299 PRO (Intel X299 Chipset) (Up to 4x PCI-E Devices)
    Memory
    128 GB DDR4 3200 MHz Corsair Vengance LPX
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Black
    Sound Card
    Integrated Motherboard Audio-Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    CORSAIR XENEON 32QHD
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    2 Samsung 980 Pro NVME 2TB
    1x Storage (6TB Western Digital
    PSU
    Corsair / EVGA / Thermaltake (Modular) (80 Plus Gold)
    Case
    VELOX
    Cooling
    H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Dual Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
    Keyboard
    Corsair K63 Wireless
    Mouse
    Corsair M65 Pro
    Internet Speed
    1000Gb's Down-20 Up
    Browser
    Firefox 124.0.1
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Cyber power CP1350AVRLCD -UPS
    NVIDIA 551.86 Driver
  • Operating System
    Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC13ANHi3
    CPU
    Intel Core i3 1315u
    Motherboard
    NUC13AN
    Memory
    64GB GSKILL DDR4 3200
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel On Board
    Sound Card
    Intel on Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 2419HGCF
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB Crucial M2NVME
    PSU
    External 90 Watt
    Case
    NUC Tall
    Cooling
    Fan
    Mouse
    Razer
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Internet Speed
    1GB
    Browser
    Slimjet 43.0.1.0
    Other Info
    quiet & fast
I had one mounted in my Van. It was very costly to my employer though. One month the bill was over $700.00
o_O

Musta been all those personal calls!!! :wink:
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
I actually love the new settings UI, my only real dislike about it is that the back button should be somewhere besides the top right corner of the window.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    EVOO LP-6
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-9750H
    Memory
    16 GB RAM 2666
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia RTX 2060
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p 1TB NVMe SSD
    Sabrent Rocket 1TB NVMe SSD
    WD Black 750 GB SATA HDD 7200 RPM
    Mouse
    Logitech G703
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox Beta
You've got a point there!

Come to think of it...,

30 years ago, we had to wait til we got home at night to call someone or, write a letter to someone overseas!




... we got on okay! :wink:
Hi there
Getting on OK isn't the same as getting on better -- modern technology can both improve and degrade life - For my part the advantages hugely outway the disadvantages (Social Media, more surveillance, more crowds,environmental issues etc). Who would want to roll the clock back on medical, pharma, engineering, science, Internet etc.

The Cloud is perfectly OK for businesses -- especially withk a lot more working at least partly remote -- that saves a huge amount of unnecessary commuting, over density and housing issues in in big cities issues etc etc

For domestic consumers - another issue but even for them limited cloud use can be an advantage.

cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
Windows 10 - 11...
The build numbers include version so if I've seen correctly, W11 still has 10.0 in build number.
The same base is there.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC
    CPU
    i3 8109U
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Memory
    16GB DDR4 @2400
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655
    Sound Card
    Intel / Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG-32ML600M
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel SSD 250GB + Samsung QVO SSD 1TB
    PSU
    Adapter
    Cooling
    The usual NUC airflow
    Keyboard
    Logitech Orion G610
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Rival 100 Red
    Internet Speed
    Good enough
    Browser
    Chromium, Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    CentOS 9 Stream / Alma / Rocky / Fedora
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    TOSHIBA
    CPU
    Intel i7 4800MQ
    Motherboard
    TOSHIBA
    Memory
    32GB DDR3 @1600
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K2100M
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Built-in
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
Windows 10 - 11...
The build numbers include version so if I've seen correctly, W11 still has 10.0 in build number.
The same base is there.
Yeah but the kernel version number isn't changed for any specific reasons other than Microsoft feeling like it. Windows 8.1 was 6.3, and during the insider phase of Windows 10 they didn't change the version number to 10 until much later in the development cycle. During much of the pre-release insider builds the version was still 6.3.

Edit: Correction, it was 6.4 until the January 23, 2015 insider build.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    EVOO LP-6
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-9750H
    Memory
    16 GB RAM 2666
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia RTX 2060
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p 1TB NVMe SSD
    Sabrent Rocket 1TB NVMe SSD
    WD Black 750 GB SATA HDD 7200 RPM
    Mouse
    Logitech G703
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox Beta
When Windows 10 was 'conceived', MS declared that this would be the last OS it would offer. At least that's what I believe I read.

If that was true, why develop Windows 11, for only certain (presumably) high-powered system combinations?

Is this the first step towards the eventual deprecation of Windows 10? If so, that's guaranteed to dismay and anger millions of ordinary W10 users, including me, who were led to believe that W10 would go on "forever", with a continual stream of updates to keep up with technological advances.
Windows 10 got a reputation for being the last version because I think one person at MS said something like this and they never came out and said that statement was false.

New versions of Windows are often necessary as the device eco-system changes and the way we use computers evolves. Microsoft also has other OS's to compete with, such as MacOS and Linux

As far as high end workstations go, it really boils down to being able to offer functionality that promotes security. Relatively modern CPU's can emulate the TPM chip, so even if you don't have the module, you have support of the functionality. At some point, to implement the latest in technology, machines have to be replaced. If you have an old computer that cannot do it, you can use older versions of Windows and alternative OS's like Linux.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SEI8
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8279u
    Motherboard
    AZW SEI
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 2666Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus 655
    Sound Card
    Intel SST
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus ProArt PA278QV
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
    PSU
    NA
    Case
    NA
    Cooling
    NA
    Keyboard
    NA
    Mouse
    NA
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Mini PC used for testing Windows 11.
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900x
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix X570-E Gaming
    Memory
    64GB DDR4-3600
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GeForce 3080 FT3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ. ASUS ProArt Display PA278QV 27” WQHD
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2TB WD SN850 PCI-E Gen 4 NVMe
    2TB Sandisk Ultra 2.5" SATA SSD
    PSU
    Seasonic Focus 850
    Case
    Fractal Meshify S2 in White
    Cooling
    Dark Rock Pro CPU cooler, 3 x 140mm case fans
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Keyboard
    Corsiar K65 RGB Lux
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Defender.
New versions of Windows are often necessary as the device eco-system changes and the way we use computers evolves. Microsoft also has other OS's to compete with, such as MacOS and Linux.
New versions of Windows may be necessary at times, but only if they are clearly better and offer substantial improvement. Just because something is new and has mostly cosmetic changes doesn't mean it's a worthwhile upgrade. The ideal upgrade is one that needs to be done for operational reasons, not on a whim or due to greed.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win10 Pro x64 & 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-11700
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Strix Z590 Gaming
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200MHz 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce RTX 3050
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 32UN650 32" 4k
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 @ 60Hz (175% scaling)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe 250GB; WD Gold (WD1005FBYZ) 1TB; WD Black (WD1003FZEX) 1TB
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x
    Case
    Antec P100
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO V2 with Noctua NF-P12 Redux & 120mm Case Fan x3
    Keyboard
    Logitech K740
    Mouse
    Logitech M310
    Internet Speed
    372 Mb down/12Mb up
    Browser
    Firefox & Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender & Free MBAM
    Other Info
    Main PC
New versions of Windows may be necessary at times, but only if they are clearly better and offer substantial improvement. Just because something is new and has mostly cosmetic changes doesn't mean it's a worthwhile upgrade. The ideal upgrade is one that needs to be done for operational reasons, not on a whim or due to greed.
That could have been said about any new version of Windows. Once you got past 7 it was all cosmetic things and the rest could have been done with upgrades to 7
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3350
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viotek 32", 28" ASUS VP28U
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    Zalman i3 NEO
    Cooling
    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
    Keyboard
    Corsair
    Mouse
    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Internet Speed
    Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
    Browser
    Firefox and Edge
    Antivirus
    MS - Defender
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
That could have been said about any new version of Windows. Once you got past 7 it was all cosmetic things and the rest could have been done with upgrades to 7
When you think about the name of the OS is just that. The name of the OS. For me the improvements are more important that what the name is.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
When you think about the name of the OS is just that. The name of the OS. For me the improvements are more important that what the name is.
Name is what it is and to me it's not relevant. Due to the major changes they renamed it and well. It is what it is.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3350
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viotek 32", 28" ASUS VP28U
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    Zalman i3 NEO
    Cooling
    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
    Keyboard
    Corsair
    Mouse
    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Internet Speed
    Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
    Browser
    Firefox and Edge
    Antivirus
    MS - Defender
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
New versions of Windows may be necessary at times, but only if they are clearly better and offer substantial improvement. Just because something is new and has mostly cosmetic changes doesn't mean it's a worthwhile upgrade. The ideal upgrade is one that needs to be done for operational reasons, not on a whim or due to greed.

Define better. Define substantial improvement.

Performance? Sustainability? Usability? Uniformity?

I don't see how you can say the requirement for TPM and Secure Boot are cosmetic changes. If it were just cosmetic, then there would not be a limitation on hardware supported.

The way I see it is that Windows is trying to make one OS for all devices (again. Apparently they didn't learn the last few times). Easier than maintaining different versions for different types of devices (IoT aside, we've not talking about embedded systems).

How many people were up in arms when Vista came out, then 7, and they were adamant that XP was perfectly fine?

How many people were up in arms about Windows 8, then Windows 10, and they said 7 was perfectly fine?

It's the same argument over and over again. Things change - people don't like the changes. People are vocal about it.

How ticked off would people have been if they had released Windows 10 21H1 and said in order to install Windows 10 21H2 you have to have an 8th gen or higher Intel CPU / 2nd gen or higher Ryzen / ThreadRipper CPU in order to install 21H2, plus TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot enabled, other wise you're stuck on 21H1 for 4+ years?

They couldn't mandate that in the same OS. It had to be done in a new OS.

Even if it is fluff, or smoke and mirrors to make people 'feel good' about security - it's what they have chosen to do.
 

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    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
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    NZXT KRAKEN Z73 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (3x 120 mm push top) + Air 3x 140mm case fans (pull front) + 1x 120 mm (push back) and 1 x 120 mm (pull bottom)
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    SteelSeries Apex Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard
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    Dell Latitude E5470
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    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
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    Dell
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    16 GB
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    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
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    Dell laptop display 15"
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    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryville 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
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    Dell
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    Dell
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    Dell
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    Logitech MX Master 3S (shared w. Sys 1) | Dell TouchPad
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    Dell
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    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth

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