Will MS ever get the Start Menu Right?

dbartenstein · Apr 28, 2022

Will they ever get it right? Not for now, but you can put it center or left.....

Zardoc · Apr 28, 2022

dbartenstein said:
In the major ERP systems that I have supported over my career, when I call vendor support about bugs the first thing they ask is if we did any modifications to their base code.... If so, the warranty is usually void.....

That's always an easy way to circumvent support. In many cases it's viable but sometimes vendors just try to pull out of their obligations.

dbartenstein · Apr 28, 2022

Zardoc said:
That's always an easy way to circumvent support. In many cases it's viable but sometimes vendors just try to pull out of their obligations.

They are willing to help, but usually it becomes billable above and beyond the support contract. Or if I can prove that it was not any modifications my company did that caused it....

Zardoc · Apr 28, 2022

dbartenstein said:
They are willing to help, but usually it becomes billable above and beyond the support contract. Or if I can prove that it was not any modifications my company did that caused it....

Agreed. Dell tried to pull a fast one saying warranty was void for installing a Samsung 2280 Pro M.2 instead of factory 2230. They said the warranty would be void which is false because they are both the same. They never answered but put out a bios update to fix the problem.

SlicEnDicE · Apr 28, 2022

Zardoc said:
I get your point but if you know what your doing, some third party tools are quite helpful. I don't have any issues with the ones use.

I know what I'm doing, and that is exactly the reason why I don't use any 3rd-party Windows mods.

Zardoc · Apr 28, 2022

SlicEnDicE said:
I know what I'm doing, and that is exactly the reason why I don't use any 3rd-party WindoI think you get my point.

Good for you.

PurSpyk!! · Apr 28, 2022

Not too sure why the old version of the menu we had in earlier versions cannot be returned. If third party apps can do it. But MS is tone deaf, the feedback hub is useless and they are on their own path no matter what users really want.

TraderGary · Apr 28, 2022

If you watched the video earlier in the thread, MS says they ARE listening to users. I like W11 menus, and I've never felt the need to resort to 3rd party apps to make W11 look and feel like W10.

Winuser · Apr 28, 2022

SlicEnDicE said:
I avoid installing any 3rd-party tools that modifies Windows in any way. This is also most likely the reason my Windows usually work pretty good and without any huge headaches.

I'm using StartAllBack and have zero problems.

Winuser · Apr 28, 2022

TraderGary said:
If you watched the video earlier in the thread, MS says they ARE listening to users. I like W11 menus, and I've never felt the need to resort to 3rd party apps to make W11 look and feel like W10.

MS is listening. They're selective listening. I'm still waiting for the Weather app to show the hours when in the detail mode like it use too.

TraderGary · Apr 28, 2022

Winuser said:
MS is listening. They're selective listening. I'm still waiting for the Weather app to show the hours when in the detail mode like it use too.

Hours? I have my own personal weather station in my yard that reports to WeatherUnderground every 5 to 10 seconds!

Personal Weather Station Dashboard | Weather Underground

Weather Underground provides local & long-range weather forecasts, weather reports, maps & tropical weather conditions for locations worldwide.

www.wunderground.com

Winuser · Apr 28, 2022

SlicEnDicE said:
I know what I'm doing, and that is exactly the reason why I don't use any 3rd-party Windows mods.

And I know what I'm doing and do use a 3rd party Windows mod program. I see it as a win win for MS and the users. MS can concentrate on the OS and the 3rd party programmers can work on making the mods that we want.

Winuser · Apr 28, 2022

TraderGary said:
Hours? I have my own personal weather station in my yard that reports to WeatherUnderground every 5 to 10 seconds!

Personal Weather Station Dashboard | Weather Underground

Weather Underground provides local & long-range weather forecasts, weather reports, maps & tropical weather conditions for locations worldwide.

www.wunderground.com

If you want to pay for one in my yard I wont say no.

Edwin · Apr 28, 2022

I don't give a sh*t about the look and feel of Windows 10, I just want 27 menu entries to appear with ONE click!

TraderGary · Apr 28, 2022

Edwin said:
I don't give a sh*t about the look and feel of Windows 10, I just want 27 menu entries to appear with ONE click!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you implement that with a simple registry fix?

Meebers · Apr 28, 2022

27 you say...here is how mine is set up. LC the start and they show on screen.

Zardoc · Apr 28, 2022

Edwin said:
I don't give a sh*t about the look and feel of Windows 10, I just want 27 menu entries to appear with ONE click!

Now that's a man who knows what he wants!!

Edwin · Apr 29, 2022

TraderGary said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you implement that with a simple registry fix?

Yeah.......,

okay, I'll admit it..., there's a couple other things I like about StartAllBack!

Stigg · Jul 20, 2023

That's a great question, but I don't have the answer.

Microsoft just don't seem to be able to make the start menu configurable enough to be able to suit most users. Hence, the popularity of third party start menus.

The first time that I can recall starting to see complaints about a Windows operating system start menu was in Windows 7. While Windows 7 was a very good operating system, I can still remember people complaining about the awkward start menu.