Win 11 Pro changed to Insider Preview

IBMJunkman · Monday at 7:40 PM

My previous thread go wrongly moved to the Office section.

Update last week changed my Win 11 Pro to Insider Preview. Backed out fine. 2nd update that week made it Insider Preview again. I had bought the license from one of those cheap places. It registered fine. But I wonder if the original source of the license number was some company with extra licenses. And they have done something that made all their licenses Insider Preview.

So I gave in and paid the behemoth their pound of flesh and bought a license from MS. Downloaded the ISO. Did an in place update. Put in my legit license number. Still shows as Insider Preview. Belarc Advisor says I have 2 license numbers. The new one is the current one.

I really don’t want to do a clean install.

glasskuter · Monday at 9:30 PM

First of all, if you downloaded the iso thru media creation tool, it would have downloaded the insider iso because the tool downloads the version you are running if you do not choose otherwise.. You would need to go here, scroll down to
Download Windows 11 disk image

Download Windows 11

You can create installation media using Rufus Rufus - Create bootable USB drives the easy way

Have you ever been an insider? Do you setting look like this.If yours are different, you will need to leave the insider program.

IBMJunkman · Tuesday at 11:20 AM

I downloaded the Windows 11 (multi-edition) ISO. Did not use the media creation tool. My Insider Panel looks like the following. The Leave function requires an email address. No idea what one it wants since I never signed up. If it is offering the Becoming option I must not be in it. How do I get around the problem shown by the 2nd image.

antspants · Tuesday at 11:36 AM

IBMJunkman said:
How do I get around the problem shown by the 2nd image.

Try resetting group policies, maybe

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glasskuter · Tuesday at 11:43 AM

I have no experience at all dealing with insider builds or the ins and outs of it. I found this thread where the same thing appears to have happened to another user. ,

Major screwup, inadvertently updated to insider, can I get back?

Hi all, My system did an update last night and somehow it dropped a Windows 11 Insider preview 27863.1000 (rs_prerelease) replacing my existing Win 11 baseline. I had sucessfully loaded a Win 11 Insider on a Hyper VM yesterday and tried to activate it (it wouldn't), so I'm assuming somehow my...

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I am flagging @Bree, who was active in that thread. Hopefully he can offer advice.

antspants · Tuesday at 11:47 AM

IBMJunkman said:
I really don’t want to do a clean install.

Depending on what you’re on, you might have to

If You’re on the Dev or Canary Channel, I think you’re out of luck

Bree · Tuesday at 12:23 PM

IBMJunkman said:
..I had bought the license from one of those cheap places. It registered fine. But I wonder if the original source of the license number was some company with extra licenses. And they have done something that made all their licenses Insider Preview....
....I really don’t want to do a clean install.

No, licence keys do not come as specifically 'Insider' keys, they are all just keys that activate Windows of any sort.

A PC has to be enrolled in Insiders to start getting Insider builds.

Whether you have to do a clean install depends on which Insider channel you are now on, they are all described as 'Insider Preview builds'. To tell which you have we need to know the build number shown in Winver.

The Insider channels are Release Preview (26100.nnnn), Beta (26120.nnnn), Dev (26200.nnnn) and Canary (278nn.1000). Only leaving Canary would require a clean install.

Bree · Tuesday at 12:25 PM

antspants said:
If You’re on the Dev or Canary Channel, I think you’re out of luck

I think Dev would be OK. Canary certainly not.

IBMJunkman · Tuesday at 12:46 PM

I have never signed up for any special program. This showed up with last Tuesdays update. I reverted it on Wednesday. On Thursday another update happened and I was back in the program. I did the update install yesterday with a true MS license and Win 11 ISO. No change. Both ChatGPT and Grok say if winver shows Verson 24H2 26100.4652 I am on a stable release. I turned off the desktop version display for now. I used it when I was switching between Win 10 and Win 11 machines. Now that I am only Win 11 I suppose I don't need it.

Bree · Tuesday at 12:59 PM

IBMJunkman said:
I downloaded the Windows 11 (multi-edition) ISO. Did not use the media creation tool. My Insider Panel looks like the following. The Leave function requires an email address. No idea what one it wants since I never signed up. If it is offering the Becoming option I must not be in it.

We need to see the whole of that page to tell if you are enrolled in the Insider program. We cannot tell from the bits you have snipped.

This is what it should look like if not enrolled, offering a 'Get started' button.

IBMJunkman said:
How do I get around the problem shown by the 2nd image.

We need to know what configured policies you may have. Go to Settings > Windows Update > Advanced options > Configured update policies to find out.

IBMJunkman · Tuesday at 1:07 PM

panel

IBMJunkman · Tuesday at 1:10 PM

Policies

Bree · Tuesday at 1:50 PM

IBMJunkman said:
Policies

I have tried setting all 4 of your policies. I still see a completely normal Windows Insiders Program page.

Have you made any other registry tweaks, not through gpedit?

Bree · Tuesday at 1:56 PM

IBMJunkman said:
panel

I see from your screenshot that you are using a local account. You cannot normally enrol a PC for Insiders without using a Microsoft account. There is a script that can do so though:

GitHub - abbodi1406/offlineinsiderenroll: OfflineInsiderEnroll - A script to enable access to the Windows Insider Program on machines not signed in with Microsoft Account

OfflineInsiderEnroll - A script to enable access to the Windows Insider Program on machines not signed in with Microsoft Account - abbodi1406/offlineinsiderenroll

github.com

It can also be run to make the necessary registry changes to unenroll a PC, choose option 4.

PGHammer25 · Tuesday at 1:59 PM

Bree said:
I think Dev would be OK. Canary certainly not.

I am on Dev ( went from Beta to Dev when I moved to 55H2) I just applied the first autoupdate for 55H2 dev to both test PCs (i7 Desktop and HP laptop (Pentium N)

IBMJunkman · Tuesday at 2:45 PM

Bree said:
I see from your screenshot that you are using a local account. You cannot normally enrol a PC for Insiders without using a Microsoft account. There is a script that can do so though:

GitHub - abbodi1406/offlineinsiderenroll: OfflineInsiderEnroll - A script to enable access to the Windows Insider Program on machines not signed in with Microsoft Account

OfflineInsiderEnroll - A script to enable access to the Windows Insider Program on machines not signed in with Microsoft Account - abbodi1406/offlineinsiderenroll

github.com

It can also be run to make the necessary registry changes to unenroll a PC, choose option 4.

View attachment 139426

I don't want to enroll. I want to make sure my system is not in. I used your CMD run as Administrator and took option 4. We shall see.

Bree · Tuesday at 3:38 PM

IBMJunkman said:
I used your CMD run as Administrator and took option 4. We shall see.

Option 4 should remove all Insider flighting settings from the registry. Has it changed the look of your Insider settings page?

IBMJunkman · Tuesday at 4:07 PM

Bree said:
Option 4 should remove all Insider flighting settings from the registry. Has it changed the look of your Insider settings page?

The Some of your settings message is gone. But the version on the desktop still shows Insider.

Bree · Tuesday at 5:01 PM

IBMJunkman said:
The Some of your settings message is gone.

That may have gone, but it's still missing something. It should either say 'Join the Windows Insider program' with a 'Get started' button, or show that you're an Insider, what level, and with a 'Leave Insiders' option. Yours has neither of these.

I suspect you may have made some other registry changes that have hidden these options.

IBMJunkman said:
But the version on the desktop still shows Insider.

That watermark can be turned on (or off) in any version.

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This is what my public release build of 24H2 looks like if I enable it. Note that your build number is identical to mine. You're not running an Insider build.

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