Windows 11 Annoyances

johnlgalt · Jul 26, 2021

That doesn't mean one of the apps you have is not throwing an incompatibility with Windows 11 that was not present in Windows 10.

I also upgraded from Win10 21H1 build 19043.1081 to Windows 11, first to the leak, then reverted to 19043.1081 and upgraded via Windows update.

So, I though "Well, maybe my stock system is set up in a way that this doesn't manifest" - so I installed Win 11 in a VM and only installed Firefox and Chrome. All three, Fx, Chrome and Edge, sync simultaneously.

Josey Wales · Jul 26, 2021

johnlgalt said:
That doesn't mean one of the apps you have is not throwing an incompatibility with Windows 11 that was not present in Windows 10.

I also upgraded from Win10 21H1 build 19043.1081 to Windows 11, first to the leak, then reverted to 19043.1081 and upgraded via Windows update.

So, I though "Well, maybe my stock system is set up in a way that this doesn't manifest" - so I installed Win 11 in a VM and only installed Firefox and Chrome. All three, Fx, Chrome and Edge, sync simultaneously.

Do you sync then to the same Email Address?

johnlgalt · Jul 26, 2021

Actually, no, all the Edge profiles use my Microsoft accounts, and Chrome profiles use Google accounts, and Firefox uses it's own Firefox sync accounts, which I've used my Google email addresses for.

I need to test that in the VM to see if it breaks - if it does, that is a problem, for sure.

But - even then, they use completely different servers and logins, so using the same email address for both should not affect each other - that'd be like saying logging in to one bank using a particular email address breaks a login to another bank using the same email address. This should not happen to begin with.

But I'll still try it out.

TairikuOkami · Jul 26, 2021

Windows 11 disables my internet several times a day, after it tries to ping, then it gets restored several minutes later.

Josey Wales · Jul 26, 2021

TairikuOkami said:
Windows 11 disables my internet several times a day, after it tries to ping, then it gets restored several minutes later.

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That Maybe what is happening to me?

johnlgalt · Jul 26, 2021

TairikuOkami said:
Windows 11 disables my internet several times a day, after it tries to ping, then it gets restored several minutes later.

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Uh, weird?

Whois IP 224.0.0.22

Whois IP Lookup for 224.0.0.22

www.whois.com

Why wold your computer be trying to broadcast to an IANA reserved IP?

Josey Wales · Jul 26, 2021

So since I had nothing better to do and I also heard that there will not be a CU for 11 this week (???) I dounloaded 20000.11 from the dump and performed an Repair Install. I now have EDGE synced and Firefox synced but I did removed all of the Bookmarks in Firefox from Edge. So all is right in the world at least the Win 11 World. Thanks Johnlgalt and Bunny for your help.

:)

Winuser · Jul 26, 2021

BunnyJ said:
The default browser is still needed and there are default browsers in various distributions of Linux as well as Windows. I don't see the issue in having a default and letting people change to another one if they want to. Heck.. back in the day the only use for IE was to get another browser.

My first browser was Netscape. I bought it at a software store in preparation of subscribing to my first ISP. At the time I was on Prodigy. Turns out I didn't have to buy it. They sent me a disk that had everything I needed on it and already setup. I just needed to install it. The good old dial-up days.

BunnyJ · Jul 26, 2021

Winuser said:
My first browser was Netscape. I bought it at a software store in preparation of subscribing to my first ISP. At the time I was on Prodigy. Turns out I didn't have to buy it. They sent me a disk that had everything I needed on it and already setup. I just needed to install it. The good old dial-up days.

I loved Netscape and I used it when I got on the internet. My first ISP was AOL then I got a better one. Funny bit.. when I got online I got onto a Usenet group covering COBOL and I ran into a guy that worked for my company as a consultant. He worked on the same floor I did and on a project that I had contact with. So wild.. good old days

bobkn · Jul 27, 2021

Winuser said:
My first browser was Netscape.

(snip)

Mine was Mosaic.

Often turned off the images, because of the slow loading at my employer. (Not dialup.) They may have had a 1Mbps connection to the Internet to serve all users. Hot stuff in 1993.

cineman195 · Jul 27, 2021

My annoyance is that VPNs don't work properly.
Both Nordlynx Tunnel and the TUN of Surfshark VPN are disabled in the Device Manager and their respective wireguard connections don't work !
However their Open VPN works and I am able to connect.
Complaints to the VPNs elicit response that Windows 11 is still not yet released OS and until it is released officially they are helpless !

AlanWade · Jul 27, 2021

Hewjr100 said:
My annoyance right from the beginning, is that the volume and battery icon were hidden. Unlike Windows 10 there is not option to hide them, now that they are present on the Taskbar.

That was my biggest annoyance along with the fact that the clock so damb small I couldnt see it. I then downloaded and used a desktop widget for the time which was Ghot's suggestion and worked well until I tried DisplayFusion to which I have had a license for over ten years. I set my taskbar to auto hide then set the DF taskbar to show on all screens. This enabled me to customise the clock at the size I want and thus took away that annoyance.
I am not sure if the free version of DF allows for the taskbar to be customised but if anyone is interested worth a try.

Josey Wales · Jul 27, 2021

My First was AOL for about a week then MSN and shortly after that I started with Phoenix which became Firebird then became Firefox and I have been using it ever since.

PerpetualCycle · Jul 27, 2021

My first was a dumb terminal text based browser based on the new html and http. We participated in testing it and used it for sharing physics and computing docs. Then the first graphical Mosaic browser that later morphed into Netscape. Then internet explorer and Firefox. Started with AOL too. Think I had the earlest implementation of wireless in my home. It was some proprietary hardware and protocol, but I could sit on the can with my big block of an IBM laptop and work.

robgr · Jul 27, 2021

Steve C said:
I now have the developer version working on my 'unsupported' Dell laptop but with a nag screen:
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I originally install the leaked version of W11 in Hyper V then copied the .vhdx files to a W11 partition and set that partition to dual boot with Windows 10. W11 then found all the drivers needed. I then joined the Insider program and got the update with nag screen shown above.

I so far have the following issues. Does anyone have a fix?

Open Shell does not open using mouse hover

Autoruns doesn't work properly since it shows many Microsoft options which should be hidden

Right click requires you to press Shift + F10 to see all options. i would like to see the Send To option. I tried the Windows 10 Forum registry fix but that didn't work.

How to remove the above nag screen?

For item 3, select the item and hit the Menu Key on the keyboard

robgr · Jul 27, 2021

geneo said:
Here are a few of mine

A lot of elements that have lists of items, like the Event viewer, no longer consistently open the item when you click anywhere on the line. I have to click on the leftmost icon of line, in this case, to view the event. Same with other windows elements.

A lot of these windows utilities, like the event viewer, still don't follow the windows (dark) theme. C'mon it has been years to get this right! This makes the user interface and themes seem like a hack job.

Context menu: While I can see the full right click context menu, without the "show more options", by setting the explorer option to open windows in a new process, this doesn't apply to the desktop, which has the new context menu with the "show more options"

Not being able to open the task manager from the task bar, and other lost taskbar functionality.

Right clicking the start menu in the taskbar pops up a list of items (including the taskbar). This list is sometimes stubbornly persistent, and you have to click on the Start menu taskbar icon to get rid f it if you have not selected anyhting on it. Also, if I right click on it to open it, it open it with the taskbar set to auto-hide, it first opens to a position above the taskbar, then when the taskbar autohides, it shifts down. This happens fast enough that you can end up selecting the wrong item on the list. It should pop up above the taskbar and stay there.

Your last issue is fixed in 22000.100.

Clicking on the Taskbar when either Start or Search is open will now make them dismiss.

PerpetualCycle · Jul 27, 2021

robgr said:
Your last issue is fixed in 22000.100.

Clicking on the Taskbar when either Start or Search is open will now make them dismiss.

Yeah, well I wrote that around the first or second insider release.

Pendaws · Jul 28, 2021

I have 2 complaints with Win 11.
1. If I remove the icon from the taskbar for the file explorer and add one I made from the explorer.exe with opening to C:\, it changes it back to opening this PC if I put it on the task bar. Under win 7 and 10 you could make it open to C:\ but no longer with 11?? Or maybe, I am just not trying hard enough to figure it out?
2. If I put the mouse cursor over an icon, the description shows up and I can no longer open the link until I take the cursor away and go back to the icon quickly. I am sure there must be a way to fix this but I guess I am getting too old to figure it out?

Any help would be appreciated :)

robgr · Jul 28, 2021

Pendaws said:
I have 2 complaints with Win 11.
1. If I remove the icon from the taskbar for the file explorer and add one I made from the explorer.exe with opening to C:\, it changes it back to opening this PC if I put it on the task bar. Under win 7 and 10 you could make it open to C:\ but no longer with 11?? Or maybe, I am just not trying hard enough to figure it out?
2. If I put the mouse cursor over an icon, the description shows up and I can no longer open the link until I take the cursor away and go back to the icon quickly. I am sure there must be a way to fix this but I guess I am getting too old to figure it out?

Any help would be appreciated :)

Regarding item 2, which application are you referring to?

Kari · Jul 29, 2021

I had to reinstall 22000.100 today. A real annoyance now after reinstall is extreme slow internal network connections. My home network should be / is gigabit network, yet transfer speeds are extremely slow. Here's an example, creating a Macrium Reflect image backup on my NAS just now: