Windows 11 Leak Screenshots

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Meh... so little has changed that it could be as well be named Windows 10.1 or Windows 10 SP1, just a bunch of visual changes does not warrant a new OS, I'm very disappointed with Win11 so far.

The biggest offender is that Control Panel still coexists with Settings app. I'm not a big fan of UWP and prefer the former because applets usually have more options, but for consistency sake, Microsoft should have removed the legacy component and expanded the app.

ksio89 said:

Meh... so little has changed that it could be as well be named Windows 10.1 or Windows 10 SP1, just a bunch of visual changes does not warrant a new OS, I'm very disappointed with Win11 so far.

The biggest offender is that Control Panel still coexists with Settings app. I'm not a big fan of UWP and prefer the former because applets usually have more options, but for consistency sake, Microsoft should have removed the legacy component and expanded the app.

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And if you ever used a pre-release leak of anything before this, going back to Windows XP, you'd have said the exact same thing.

This is because it *IS* a pre-release leak. If you're expecting massive changes now, you're gonna be sorely disappointed.

dencal said:

I can wait another week when Insiders will be offered it.

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Until it's officially released to the Insider Ring I'm only going to try it in a VM.

Joan Archer said:

Well, I've just found the forum but so far haven't done anything about downloading the OS yet. I only have 2 laptops now and 1 of those I only use for banking and accounts because it's not got a very big HD. I do most everything else on the HP laptop which has a 128 SSD drive for the OS and a 1TB HD which is where everything gets installed.

You all know me so when I saw we had the new forum I just had to join so I could try and keep up with something new.

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Just do the Hyper-V on one of your laptops just like most people do right now. It is not worth clean installing it right now. It is just a leaked version.

Superfly said:

@Winuser,

Hmmm... I was uhmm-ing and ahh-ing about adding Per Monitor DPI-awareness but decided against it as UWP should self scale.

Can you post a screenshot of ol' blurry and the resolution settings you use?

I tested these res settings in a VM and it seems just a slight loss in sharpness at the highest settings

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Now it's worse than the first time I tried it.

ksio89 said:

Meh... so little has changed that it could be as well be named Windows 10.1 or Windows 10 SP1, just a bunch of visual changes does not warrant a new OS, I'm very disappointed with Win11 so far.

The biggest offender is that Control Panel still coexists with Settings app. I'm not a big fan of UWP and prefer the former because applets usually have more options, but for consistency sake, Microsoft should have removed the legacy component and expanded the app.

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The Control Panel is still my go-to place for some settings that I am very used to do since Windows 7 (or even XP days). But I also use the Settings page a lot. I don't think having both affects performance so how is it a "biggest offender"? They only come up if you open them. It's just nice to have a UI that old timers are very familiar with.

Did an in place upgrade install on Windows Dev channel and if the Taskbar wasn't in the centre I'd be hard pressed to notice it was Windows 11.

Fabler2 said:

Did an in place upgrade install on Windows Dev channel and if the Taskbar wasn't in the centre I'd be hard pressed to notice it was Windows 11.

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Do you mean from any windows Dev channel iso?

magilla said:

Do you mean from any windows Dev channel iso?

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This is the ISO I downloaded, W1nd0ws-11_dev_2!996.1.21o529-1541.co_re1ease_CL1ENT_C0NSUMER_x64_en-us.iso , and updated Win Home Dev channel.

Rocky said:

Where is the ISO for Windows Eleven?

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I don't think there is one.

Fabler2 said:

This is the ISO I downloaded, W1nd0ws-11_dev_2!996.1.21o529-1541.co_re1ease_CL1ENT_C0NSUMER_x64_en-us.iso , and updated Win Home Dev channel.

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Thank you Fabler2.

johnlgalt said:

And if you ever used a pre-release leak of anything before this, going back to Windows XP, you'd have said the exact same thing.

This is because it *IS* a pre-release leak. If you're expecting massive changes now, you're gonna be sorely disappointed.

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I know it's a preview build, but I doubt the RTM build will be much different.

badrobot said:

The Control Panel is still my go-to place for some settings that I am very used to do since Windows 7 (or even XP days). But I also use the Settings page a lot. I don't think having both affects performance so how is it a "biggest offender"? They only come up if you open them. It's just nice to have a UI that old timers are very familiar with.

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The issue is the redundancy, because there are several options that are available both in Control Panel and Settings, there's no need for that, it just makes the OS bloated. Microsoft should decide whether to restore a full CP like it was in Win7, or migrate everything to the UWP app at once, either one or the other, but not both.

ksio89 said:

I know it's a preview build, but I doubt the RTM build will be much different.


The issue is the redundancy, because there are several options that are available both in Control Panel and Settings, there's no need for that, it just makes the OS bloated. Microsoft should decide whether to restore a full CP like it was in Win7, or migrate everything to the UWP app at once, either one or the other, but not both.

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There are a lot of redundancy in Windows (like Snip & Sketch and Snipping Tool). But those are designed to cater to old time users I guess. It is just good to have another way of doing things whatever is comfortable for the user... the old way, or the new way. They are not bloatware.

ksio89 said:

I know it's a preview build, but I doubt the RTM build will be much different.


The issue is the redundancy, because there are several options that are available both in Control Panel and Settings, there's no need for that, it just makes the OS bloated. Microsoft should decide whether to restore a full CP like it was in Win7, or migrate everything to the UWP app at once, either one or the other, but not both.

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The last time they flipped a switch and made everything different, people (developers, OEMs, and more) screamed bloody murder.

It was called Vista.

badrobot said:

There are a lot of redundancy in Windows (like Snip & Sketch and Snipping Tool). But those are designed to cater to old time users I guess. It is just good to have another way of doing things whatever is comfortable for the user... the old way, or the new way. They are not bloatware.

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there are plenty of non-redundant apps that are bloatware.

The phone app
Cortana
Groove Music
Photos
Movies and TV (even without old school media player enabled)

And let's not forget the #@$%@#$% inclusion of pre-installed games which I never play, Spotify, and so much other clutter that is included with a Windows 10 install.

It's definitely bloated. Why include them in the installer for the OS? if the user wants any of it, they can bloody well install it themselves.

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there are plenty of non-redundant apps that are bloatware.

The phone app
Cortana
Groove Music
Photos
Movies and TV (even without old school media player enabled)

And let's not forget the #@$%@#$% inclusion of pre-installed games which I never play, Spotify, and so much other clutter that is included with a Windows 10 install.

It's definitely bloated. Why include them in the installer for the OS? if the user wants any of it, they can bloody well install it themselves.

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Those are definitely bloatware. But not utility tools like control panel.

badrobot said:

Those are definitely bloatware. But not utility tools like control panel.

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I think the poster meant the bloatware in CP is not CP itself, but having duplicates - like a Programs and Features in CP versus Apps in Settings.

johnlgalt said:

I think the poster meant the bloatware in CP is not CP itself, but having duplicates - like a Programs and Features in CP versus Apps in Settings.

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If you use one of the isos available now you can choose which version to install (W10 Home, Pro, Education, Workstation, Enterprise etc) on a VM you don't need a key but it will limit personalisation - however you will see that Enterprise, and Workstation editions have much less bloat in them -- I haven't tride education - but I might have a go on a VM later.

To get selection on a clean install on bare metal :

Create a “ei.cfg” file containing the following text:
[EditionID]
Professional
[Channel]
Retail

Save the ei.cfg file to the \Sources folder on your iso extraction.

Cheers
jimbo

To be honest I whilst I know there is a lot of "Bloat" in windows 10 (and was in the previous versions), It does not bother me - I use the Start menu (Popup), populated with those applications I use. and leave the rest "Out of Sight- Out of Mind"

There are ways of removing unused "Apps" - if they are set to autorun, and they turn out to be Memory Hogs, but if an App has no visible detriment to the way the system runs, I just ignore it

If you want to tidy up the all apps list there is a right click option to "remove from this List" which mostly also works for those items that do not have an Uninstall option. If you "have to" uninstall an app there are ways of achieving this, but windows may act unpredictably afterwards.

Gamers do have actual problems getting the most performance on their gaming systems, a lot of this is down to Bad or non standard programming, that causes the games to require more that a correctly coded app. For these situations you can remove a lot of using third party tools but you will have to expect to have unpredictable results afterwards