Windows 11 - Missing TPM 2.0


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Hi All,

I ran the compatibility check for Windows 11 and I'm missing TPM 2.0. Newly built computer with the following motherboard. See detailed specs.


American Megatrends 0603-2020-05-03, SMBios 3.2 UEFI

Any suggestions?

With thanks, ms:unsure:
 
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Hello MissSherlock,

There are a couple of ways of activating the TPM 2.0 feature on a modern computer. One is to have a TPM 2.0 module attached to a TPM header on the motherboard. And the other is to enable fTPM on the AMD processor.

Your computer build does not appear to support TPM 2.0 on the motherboard. However the Ryzen 5 3600 processor feature set does support fTPM. In which case you would need to enable fTPM in the BIOS to activate.
 
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Hello MissSherlock,



Your computer build does not appear to support TPM 2.0 on the motherboard. However the Ryzen 5 3600 processor feature set does support fTPM. In which case you would need to enable fTPM in the BIOS to activate.

And that is one reason why there is so much confusion about the onboard TMP (PTT on Intel and fTMP on AMD), no one seems able to read specifications or instructions. Sorry to say iko22 if you had actually read the specs for MissSherlock you would have seen that that motherboard does in fact have a TPM header on it,

Internal I/O Ports​

1 x CPU Fan connector(s)
1 x CPU OPT Fan connector(s)
2 x Chassis Fan connector(s)
2 x Aura RGB Strip Headers
1 x Addressable Gen 2 header(s)
1 x USB 3.2 Gen 1(up to 5Gbps) connector(s) support(s) additional 2 USB 3.2 Gen 1 port(s)
2 x USB 2.0 connector(s) support(s) additional 4 USB 2.0 port(s)
1 x M.2 Socket 3 with M Key, type 2242/2260/2280 storage devices support (SATA mode & X4 PCIE mode)
1 x M.2 Socket 3 with M Key, type 2242/2260/2280/22110 storage devices support (SATA mode & X4 PCIE mode)
1 x SPI TPM header
4 x SATA 6Gb/s connector(s)
1 x 24-pin EATX Power connector(s)
1 x 8-pin EATX 12V Power connectors
1 x Front panel audio connector(s) (AAFP)
1 x Clear CMOS jumper(s)
1 x System panel connector
1 x COM port header
1 x Speaker connector

Sorry but there are just too many people here and just about any forum you can visit putting out misleading or out right wrong information, when the correct information is easily available. And every time someone starts saying anything about the TPM header on a motherboard that has it already built in (CPU/chipset/etc) the scalpers on ebay start salivating.

The second part about it supporting FTPM is accurate though. Instructions on how to enable it on Asus motherboards can be found here,

 

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And that is one reason why there is so much confusion about the onboard TMP (PTT on Intel and fTMP on AMD), no one seems able to read specifications or instructions. Sorry to say iko22 if you had actually read the specs for MissSherlock you would have seen that that motherboard does in fact have a TPM header on it,



Sorry but there are just too many people here and just about any forum you can visit putting out misleading or out right wrong information, when the correct information is easily available. And every time someone starts saying anything about the TPM header on a motherboard that has it already built in (CPU/chipset/etc) the scalpers on ebay start salivating.

The second part about it supporting FTPM is accurate though. Instructions on how to enable it on Asus motherboards can be found here,

Ha! There it is - I did do my homework and visit the mobo webpage, yet somehow I missed the minute yet crucial detail.

Apologies to you both, and thanks for the swift correction @stormy13 .

(Original Post corrected.)
 

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To understand how to install the TPM security module option on an available motherboard header, read this post

It is recommended to purchase a TPM module from the same company as your motherboard manufacturer.
 

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The OP can choose what they want to do.
It makes more sense to just turn the TPM2 on via the BIOS than buying a chip.
 

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The OP can choose what they want to do.

True.

Maybe I'm wrong to assume that most people would be happy with a firmware TPM, rather than having to locate and buy a compatible hardware module. (There is no industry standard for TPM modules.) Is it easy to buy a TPM module at the moment without paying scalper's prices?
 

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True.

Maybe I'm wrong to assume that most people would be happy with a firmware TPM, rather than having to locate and buy a compatible hardware module. (There is no industry standard for TPM modules.) Is it easy to buy a TPM module at the moment without paying scalper's prices?
Yes, agree that firmware TPM is trending more popular with users. Perhaps it is perceived as less hassle - so, you are not "wrong" at all :). However I did not want to overlook that discrete TPM has been tested in real computers for longer and some users think that that option is more secure, for example:
 

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Yes, agree that firmware TPM is trending more popular with users. Perhaps it is perceived as less hassle - so, you are not "wrong" at all :). However I did not want to overlook that discrete TPM has been tested in real computers for longer and some users think that that option is more secure, for example:

The firmware TPM have been around for 6 years at least. The differences between the discrete and the firmware versions, even in the area of isolation, are insignificant from what I have read of the technical details in what is publicly .

I think at this point, in particular, the OP, are just looking for a way to legitimately upgrade to Windows 11.
 

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I think at this point, in particular, the OP, are just looking for a way to legitimately upgrade to Windows 11.
(y) yep, and it is my fault that the discussion of available technologies took a winding tour ... so thanks for putting things back in perspective.
 

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Hi All,

I ran the compatibility check for Windows 11 and I'm missing TPM 2.0. Newly built computer with the following motherboard. See detailed specs.


American Megatrends 0603-2020-05-03, SMBios 3.2 UEFI

Any suggestions?

With thanks, ms:unsure:
If you update your BIOS to the latest one for your motherboard. It will be Windows 11 ready. Found here:

 
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If you update your BIOS to the latest one for your motherboard. It will be Windows 11 ready. Found here:


I don't know about that update, but some of the ones I've seen just change the defaults so that they match the Windows 11 requirements. That's good, but the same settings are available with older BIOSes.

For an AMD motherboard, fTPM and Secure Boot need to be enabled (which may want a UEFI Boot choice). Also, enable SVM (Virtualization) and IOMMU (input/output memory management unit). That will give you Enhanced device security.
 

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Hi All,

I ran the compatibility check for Windows 11 and I'm missing TPM 2.0. Newly built computer with the following motherboard. See detailed specs.


American Megatrends 0603-2020-05-03, SMBios 3.2 UEFI

Any suggestions?

With thanks, ms:unsure:



Go into the BIOS and on the Advanced tab, set as shown by the RED circle, then save and exit the BIOS....



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Thanks to good advise on this forum, I stopped vainly searching for a TPM module and enabled the firmware TPM 2.0 built in to the motherboard. Of course a plug in module would have better security, but unless you are a buisiness user with a lot at stake it is unnecessary for home use, after all, we all paid very little or no attention to TPM before W11 came on the horizon. Microsoft are quite happy for us to have firmware TPM enabled to qualify for W11.
 

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    400W Novatech semi modular 80+bronze.
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    Fractal Design Define R2
    Cooling
    front 2 x 120mm rear 100mm stock psu
    Internet Speed
    215/21
    Browser
    Firefox and edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Security and free Malwarebytes
  • Operating System
    W11 pro 64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
    CPU
    Ryzen 3200G
    Motherboard
    MSI B450M PRO-VDH
    Memory
    2 x 8Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    onboard cpu
    Sound Card
    motherboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WD Black M2 SN750 500Gb
    PSU
    Be Quiet 400 semi modular 80+gold
    Case
    Coolermaster Silencio 650
    Cooling
    140mm front, 120 rear Akasa Vegas Chroma AM
    Internet Speed
    21/215
    Browser
    edge/Firefox
    Antivirus
    WD plus Malwarebytes free

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    10900KF, 5.1 GHz delid
    Motherboard
    Asus Maximus Hero XII Wifi
    Memory
    64GB G.skill TridentZ RGB 3200CL14 B-die @ 3600 CL14
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus ROG Strix 2070 Super A8G
    Sound Card
    Onboard Audio, Vanatoo Transparent One; Klipsch R-12SWi Sub
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Eizo CG2730, ViewSonic VP2768
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440p x 2
    Hard Drives
    WDC SN850 1TB (OS+), Samsung 980 1TB (games), Raid 0: 1TB 850 EVO + 1TB 860 EVO. Sabrent USB-C DS-SC5B docking station: 6TB WDC Black, 6TB Ironwolf Pro; 2TB WDC Black
    PSU
    750W Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium Plus
    Case
    Fractal Design Meshify 2 dark tint glass
    Cooling
    EK-AIO 360 D-RGB w/Phanteks T30-120 fans, 2x Noctua NF-A14 Chromax case
    Keyboard
    Glorious GMMK TKL - Brown mechanical, lubed modded
    Mouse
    Logitech G305 wireless gaming
    Internet Speed
    238 Mb/s down, 12 Mb/s up
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender, Macrium Reflect 8 ;-)
    Other Info
    Logitech C920e Webcam (crap don't buy)
  • Operating System
    Mac OS Monterey
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple 13" Macbook Pro 2020 (m1)
    CPU
    M1
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2560x1600
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