Windows explorer stop working correctly after the last updates

Gregory · Dec 16, 2023

Did you check if ms release an update/fix for that issue?

glasskuter · Dec 16, 2023

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Gregory said:
So ms must release a patch for all these explorer issue with 23h2.
Correct?

MS releases updates that change or enhance a basic Windows installation. Folks fail to understand that unless an update causes file explorer issues (or any other problems) with all or big majority of windows users, MS won't and can't do anything about it as there are too many variables outside of the OS itself. These issues occur due to a machine specific condition.

There are many different reasons that cause it to occur. None of the reasons are from the update itself. If that were true we would all have the problem and we don't. I repeat, unless an update causes issues for everyone, it specifically points to conditions on the machine having the problem.
Reasons are:
corrupt system files going into the update or coming out of it
3rd party software
changes made by the user
3rd party tweaking apps
corrupt user account
Even drivers and flaky devices can contribute to many issues

It is what it is. So, either be proactive and fix your system or live with it. If you wait for MS you'll be waiting a long time. That includes doing everything that has been previously suggested, even up to and including a repair install or even a clean install and rebuild everything as a last resort.

Gregory · Dec 16, 2023

Yes, but why this is happening only at 23h2 win11 version and not to previews versions of win11?

glasskuter · Dec 16, 2023

Gregory said:
why this is happening only at 23h2 win11 version

You keep missing the point. It is not "only happening at 23h2". It is happening for YOU at 23h2, not everyone. I'm sorry, but all we can do here is address issues on an individual basis and give out our best advice. For some questions there are no definite answers or quick and easy fixes. If anyone has such an answer to your very isolated issue, other than what has already been suggested, we'd both like to hear it.

Gregory · Jan 10, 2024

Any news about that issue?
Does ms fix it with a newer patch or still exist the problem.

Gregory · Jan 14, 2024

Ghot said:
You might want to try this. I don't know if it will help, but it won't hurt anything...

Get ViVeTool-v0.3.3.zip here...

Releases · thebookisclosed/ViVe

C# library and console app for using new feature control APIs available in Windows 10 version 2004 and newer - thebookisclosed/ViVe

github.com

1. Create a folder called zVive on your C:\ drive (Windows drive)
2. Extract the contents of the ZIP file you just downloaded, to the new zVive folder.

In command Prompt (as Admin)..
cd C:\zVIVE

Then run this command...
vivetool /disable /id:40729001,37634385,36354489

Then reboot the computer to apply the changes.

This command is mainly to remove File Explorer "tabs".
But it also fixes a lot of things in File Explorer that got broken in 23H2.

Vivetool is just a tool that allows you to enable and disable things, that are very hard to enable or disable by any other method.

Hi.

Microsoft fix this issue?

I make the latest ms win11 updates.

Is there any change to fix this issue?????

Ghot · Jan 14, 2024

Gregory said:
Hi.

Microsoft fix this issue?

I make the latest ms win11 updates.

Is there any change to fix this issue?????

I don't know. I don't have or use File Explorer tabs.

LesFerch · Jan 14, 2024

I suspect your video card driver is incompatible with the App SDK Explorer.Please do this:

Reset all features to default with:

vivetool /fullreset

Restart.

If Explorer is still broken (I expect it will be), disable the App SDK Explorer with:

vivetool /disable id:40729001

Restart.

If I read correctly, that's what worked for you previously. I don't think you needed to bother with the other feature numbers.

Your other option is to use the Windows 10 Explorer that is still built into Windows 11. Details here:

Restore Classic File Explorer with Ribbon in Windows 11 Tutorial

This tutorial will show you how to restore the classic File Explorer with Ribbon for your account or all users in Windows 11. File Explorer in Windows 10 has a ribbon, tabs, and a title bar with color. The ribbon includes common tasks, such as copying and moving, creating new folders, emailing...

www.elevenforum.com

Your issue appears to be the same one shown here:

Gregory · Feb 5, 2024

This command doesn't work.
"vivetool /disable id:40729001"
The correct command is "vivetool /disable /id:40729001"
but this make windows explorer make black screen for some seconds and when the screen return the windows explorer NEVER RUN.

I was use the previews "vivetool /disable /id:40729001,37634385,36354489" and work fine until the latest win11 updates.
Now it doesn't simply the screen go black and return without windows explorer run.

So maybe you must correct the new command.

Any suggestion???

Ghot · Feb 5, 2024

Gregory said:
This command doesn't work.
"vivetool /disable id:40729001"
The correct command is "vivetool /disable /id:40729001"
but this make windows explorer make black screen for some seconds and when the screen return the windows explorer NEVER RUN.

I was use the previews "vivetool /disable /id:40729001,37634385,36354489" and work fine until the latest win11 updates.
Now it doesn't simply the screen go black and return without windows explorer run.

So maybe you must correct the new command.

Any suggestion???

The Windows Cumulative Preview Update on January 23rd broke my File Explorer. It would not open at all, because I had the Tabs in File Explorer... disabled.

My solution...

KB5034204 Windows 11 Cumulative Update Preview Build 22621.3085 (22H2) and 22631.3085 (23H2)

UPDATE 2/13: https://www.elevenforum.com/t/kb5034765-windows-11-cumulative-update-build-22621-3155-22h2-and-22631-3155-23h2.22470/ Microsoft Windows Update: January 23, 2024 - KB5034204 (OS Builds 22621.3085 and 22631.3085) Preview For information about Windows update terminology, see the...

www.elevenforum.com

I do NOT use... ExplorerPatcher, StartAllBack, QTTabbar, so I don't know what effect those would have on this issue.

Wynona · Feb 5, 2024

Ghot said:
The Windows Cumulative Preview Update on January 23rd broke my File Explorer. It would not open at all, because I had the Tabs in File Explorer... disabled.

My solution...

KB5034204 Windows 11 Cumulative Update Preview Build 22621.3085 (22H2) and 22631.3085 (23H2)

UPDATE 2/13: https://www.elevenforum.com/t/kb5034765-windows-11-cumulative-update-build-22621-3155-22h2-and-22631-3155-23h2.22470/ Microsoft Windows Update: January 23, 2024 - KB5034204 (OS Builds 22621.3085 and 22631.3085) Preview For information about Windows update terminology, see the...

www.elevenforum.com

I do NOT use... ExplorerPatcher, StartAllBack, QTTabbar, so I don't know what effect those would have on this issue.

So far, for me, File Explorer hasn't been broken by updates.

I don't use those either. I've found that just leaving things alone makes my day-to-day computing just fine.

Ghot · Feb 5, 2024

Wynona said:
So far, for me, File Explorer hasn't been broken by updates.

I don't use those either. I've found that just leaving things alone makes my day-to-day computing just fine.

Yeah... the only reason mine broke was because I had previously used the "no File Explorer tabs" tweak.
Apparently Microsoft decided the "no tabs" was NOT permitted.

There's still other ways, to choose no tabs in File Explorer, or classic ribbon bar, but like I mentioned, I don't use those programs.
So now I have tabs, and I just ignore them.

Kees · Feb 5, 2024

Ghot said:
There's still other ways, to choose no tabs in File Explorer, or classic ribbon bar, but like I mentioned, I don't use those programs.

I do use one of them (StartAllBack).

But as I did not like the ribbon UI of Windows 10 and would not like to go back to the UI of Windows 7, I choose to stay using the Windows 11 Tab UI. What I don't like is that the Titlebar cannot be coloured as in other programs. Even Edge (that I only use minimal if a site does not function in Firefox) has a cloured titlebar... But the non-coloured titlebar I ignore as well.

It every time again turns out that MS is ignoring the wishes of the users, who would like to have Windows a more configurable UI (as it was in Windows XP). It is as it is, we'll have to live with it.

Ghot · Feb 5, 2024

Kees said:
What I don't like is that the Titlebar cannot be coloured as in other programs.

Agreed. The title bar is vicious. Blinded by the White.

Gregory · Mar 15, 2024

Ghost...
So does ms fix anything at all?????

NormanF · Mar 15, 2024

No. Every eventuality can't be covered.

An update will likely break third party extensions. This isn't unique to Windows.

In Linux, GNOME users find broken extensions every time a new GNOME version is released.

Third party apps have to be updated to be compatible with the OS they're running on, not the other way around.

Gregory · Mar 15, 2024

What is the last "vivetool" command to work the explorer normal

LesFerch · Mar 15, 2024

Gregory said:
What is the last "vivetool" command to work the explorer normal

I'm not quite sure what you're looking for, but you can clear all feature enables/disables with the command:

vivetool /fullreset

Gregory · Mar 15, 2024

Already done that
Doesn't work.
Still the windows explorer toolbar isn't working

LesFerch · Mar 15, 2024

Gregory said:
Already done that
Doesn't work.
Still the windows explorer toolbar isn't working

Then the problem doesn't appear to be with the feature enabling/disabling. Maybe your video card driver isn't compatible with the App SDK Explorer. Can you use the old Windows 10 Explorer? You can easily switch using this tool: