Windows Search using Copilot

Edwin · Oct 22, 2025

Two things I've observed:
• AI is destroying portions of the music industry
and,
• YouTube is fast becoming a cesspool of fake AI garbage

Hazel123 · Oct 22, 2025

dacrone said:
Try this:

open Copilot app > click your account picture at the bottom left > select Settings > scroll down to Permission Settings > turn off File Search
and t
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And this is why I don't want AI built into my computer.

I find Chat GPT very useful and helpful and have done on a number of occasions on various matters. The difference is it is not installed on my computer, I can open a web browser and choose to use it or not. It is not tied to my Windows settings with hidden menus.

Now I did try Copilot again recently and the AI model does seem to have improved and it does seem more like Chat GPT now (maybe a connection there now) or they've given it a different personality! But - I still don't want it installed on my computer. I like to choose what is installed on my computer. It's not as if it can be used offline either!

dacrone · Oct 22, 2025

Hazel123 said:
And this is why I don't want AI built into my computer.

I find Chat GPT very useful and helpful and have done on a number of occasions on various matters. The difference is it is not installed on my computer, I can open a web browser and choose to use it or not. It is not tied to my Windows settings with hidden menus.

Now I did try Copilot again recently and the AI model does seem to have improved and it does seem more like Chat GPT now (maybe a connection there now) or they've given it a different personality! But - I still don't want it installed on my computer. I like to choose what is installed on my computer. It's not as if it can be used offline either!

i wont install copilot simply because the fiasco with recall only proved us all right... that it monitors EVERYTHING on your pc screen. same as acr on smart tvs. new articles about that come out almost weekly (for the past few years). if you dont know what i'm referring to:

Your Smart TV Is Spying on You With Three Letters You’ve Never Even Heard Of

The hidden technology in your smart TV that tracks everything you watch, even offline.

www.howtogeek.com

if you want to use an an ai bot, use the online version in a private browser window with tor

chatgpt.com/?model=auto
copilot.microsoft.com/chat

pseymour · Oct 22, 2025

Edwin said:
YouTube is fast becoming a cesspool of fake AI garbage

As opposed to the garbage generated by people.

Levitate11 · Oct 22, 2025

starchase said:
Just one example of the useful power of CoPilot, I told it:

I'm looking for the initial publication date for a particular comic strip of "Peanuts" which was a comic strip published in American newspapers between 1950 and 2000 in which Linus tells his sister Lucy that he wants to become a doctor famous for helping Humanity when he grows up and Lucy laughs at his desire telling Linus that he'll never become a doctor as he doesn't even like humanity. But Linus retorts, I like humanity, it's people I can't stand!"

and in just a few seconds it answered:

**The comic strip you're referring to was first published on *November 12, 1959*.** This particular "Peanuts" strip by Charles M. Schulz features a classic exchange between Linus and Lucy. Linus expresses his noble ambition to become a doctor who helps humanity, only to be met with Lucy's cynical laughter. She tells him he can't possibly become a doctor because he doesn't even like humanity. Linus delivers the memorable punchline: "I love mankind... it's people I can't stand!". This line has become one of the most quoted from the entire "Peanuts" series, often cited as an example of Schulz's ability to blend humor with philosophical insight. The strip captures the essence of Schulz's writing—witty, poignant, and deeply human, even when spoken by children. If you're compiling notable strips or quotes for your genealogy or cultural documentation work, this one is a gem. Would you like help locating the full strip or integrating it into a timeline or visual archive?
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Just for kicks, you should run this through other AI engines and see what it (they) provide (i.e. your suggestion that CoPilot is better than other AI bots). Might be interesting to now. (And no, I don't care enough to do it myself).

Levitate11 · Oct 22, 2025

I find that AI provides "mostly correct" information. "Most" of them time.

Sometime I am familiar with a subject but just need some random fact that I don't recall or never learned. I search and there are AI results. AI seems to have incorrect facts / details much too often.

Just one recent example, vis-a-vis the thread here on Activity Logs, AI will tell you to use the options that MS used to provide before they "retired" the automatic activity log monitoring back in January 2024. Step by step, through WIN 11 features that haven't existed for almost two years now.

The other day, Google's AI told me that Duane Allman played the slide guitar on a Cream / Clapton song. Clapton didn't meet Allman until at least a year after that song was released.

That's just a couple, perhaps trivial, examples. But I run across them fairly often - and AI most always presents them as facts. AI makes incorrect assumptions and connections that shouldn't be presented as fact or, sometimes, presented at all.

Levitate11 · Oct 22, 2025

pseymour · Oct 22, 2025

Levitate11 said:
I find that AI provides "mostly correct" information. "Most" of them time.

Same as regular old web sites, the news, people on 11 Forum, the old man on the corner. I'm not sure why people seem to hold LLMs and AI in general to a higher standard. If you can't discern true from false, or are too lazy to, you're going to have a bad time.

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Levitate11 · Oct 22, 2025

pseymour said:
Same as regular old web sites, the news, people on 11 Forum, the old man on the corner. I'm not sure why people seem to hold LLMs and AI in general to a higher standard. If you can't discern true from false, or are too lazy to, you're going to have a bad time.

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The problem is that Corporations are holding it to be 100% accurate. How will you like AI making decisions on your health coverage and "needs". Even today, it's becoming difficult to argue with AI decisions by corporations. Imagine where it's going.

starchase · Oct 22, 2025

Levitate11 said:
The problem is that Corporations are holding it to be 100% accurate. How will you like AI making decisions on your health coverage and "needs". Even today, it's becoming difficult to argue with AI decisions by corporations. Imagine where it's going.

At least for Copilot, this statement is at the bottom of the app:

"Copilot may make mistakes. Your conversations are personalized and help train AI. Opt out (link)

Edwin · Oct 22, 2025

pseymour said:
As opposed to the garbage generated by people.

... in addition to!!!

Levitate11 · Oct 22, 2025

starchase said:
At least for Copilot, this statement is at the bottom of the app:

"Copilot may make mistakes. Your conversations are personalized and help train AI. Opt out (link)

Yes, the disclaimer is on most of the consumer visible models... all while they're using AI to (for example) deny valid insurance claims and put the burden of proof on the customer to prove AI wrong. It's a bad direction to be heading.

Levitate11 · Oct 22, 2025

Another Example:

"Largest study of its kind shows AI assistants misrepresent news content 45% of the time – regardless of language or territory"

Largest study of its kind shows AI assistants misrepresent news content 45% of the time – regardless of language or territory

An intensive international study was coordinated by the European Broadcasting Union (EBU) and led by the BBC

www.bbc.co.uk

Levitate11 · Oct 23, 2025

Here's another wrong answer from Google's AI:

Q. "when did albert lee play with clapton"

A. "Albert Lee played with Eric Clapton in a band from 1978 to 1983, a five-year period that included ..."
(Correct, but see next question)

Q. "who replaced albert lee record in clapton's band"

A. "Albert Lee never played in Eric Clapton's band, so there is no replacement. The user is likely confusing Albert Lee with another guitarist,"
(100% wrong)

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ChatGPT:

Q. "when did albert lee play with clapton"

A. "Albert Lee played in Eric Clapton's band from 1973 to 1974. He was part of Clapton's short-lived band, Eric Clapton's 461 Ocean Boulevard lineup..."
(this also appears to be 100% wrong).

(100% wrong; they started playing together years later)

Q. "did albert lee tour with Clapton"

A, part 1. "The most notable time Albert Lee toured with Clapton was during the 1973 tour for the album 461 Ocean Boulevard.

(Wrong, per above)

A, part 2. "...Albert Lee also participated in other Clapton-related projects and performances, though not necessarily as a full-time member of his touring band for extended periods."

(Again wrong, as he was a permanent member of the touring band from '78 to '82; well documented.

Hazel123 · Oct 23, 2025

Levitate11 said:
I find that AI provides "mostly correct" information. "Most" of them time.

Sometime I am familiar with a subject but just need some random fact that I don't recall or never learned. I search and there are AI results. AI seems to have incorrect facts / details much too often.

Just one recent example, vis-a-vis the thread here on Activity Logs, AI will tell you to use the options that MS used to provide before they "retired" the automatic activity log monitoring back in January 2024. Step by step, through WIN 11 features that haven't existed for almost two years now.

The other day, Google's AI told me that Duane Allman played the slide guitar on a Cream / Clapton song. Clapton didn't meet Allman until at least a year after that song was released.

That's just a couple, perhaps trivial, examples. But I run across them fairly often - and AI most always presents them as facts. AI makes incorrect assumptions and connections that shouldn't be presented as fact or, sometimes, presented at all.

Google AI is ridiculously unreliable and will contradict itself depending on how you phrase a question. All it does is take information from articles in Google. An example of this was when the issue was only discussed on one forum and Google AI gave that as a definitive answer - while someone on that forum then quoted Google AI's answer - which was actually taken from the forum discussion asking the question! If that makes sense. If you check - google AI has "links" next to its answers with the source material on the right. The source material is often just conflicting opinion/marketing and not reliable fact.

Levitate11 · Oct 23, 2025

Hazel123 said:
Google AI is ridiculously unreliable and will contradict itself depending on how you phrase a question. All it does is take information from articles in Google. An example of this was when the issue was only discussed on one forum and Google AI gave that as a definitive answer - while someone on that forum then quoted Google AI's answer - which was actually taken from the forum discussion asking the question! If that makes sense. If you check - google AI has "links" next to its answers with the source material on the right. The source material is often just conflicting opinion/marketing and not reliable fact.

Yes, I added another post above yours. More answers that support "How you phrase the question" or just "outright incorrect answer".

DJNelson · Oct 23, 2025

CoPilot gives false information in some cases. Therefore it is useless.

starchase · Oct 24, 2025

DJNelson said:
CoPilot gives false information in some cases. Therefore it is useless.

It is hardly "useless" as Copilot has given me answers that has solved some of the issues I put to it. So, respectfully, to say that is CAN give inaccurate answers it is useless in all occasions is a gross fallacy!

Spunk · Oct 24, 2025

AI isn't perfect. In fact Answers vary depending on what AI model you use (Copilot, ChatGPT, Grok, Google AI, Duck Duck Go AI) It should be one of many tools you use to research a subject. You shouldn't depend on one place to get your information

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