Does S3 sleep work in Windows 11?


jimhoyle

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There are many discussions elsewhere about "Modern Standby", aka "Modern Sleep", "S0ix", "S0 Low Power Idle". It's all about nobody understanding why Microsoft forces that and doesn't allow the good and old S3 Sleep mode. In short, a computer in the S0ix mode will run extremely hot while in sleep, especially when in a laptop bag.

Could somebody (preferably a few) confirm if their computer (laptop) allows the old S3 Sleep in Windows 11? Which means USB keyboard/mouse wakeup works (also Wake-On-LAN works), opening the laptop lid wakes the computer, computer creates no heat while in sleep, typing "powercfg a" in a command prompt shows that S3 is available.

If you have those working, could you also mention your computer model and exact Windows version. And if you had to tweak things to get S3, what did you do?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 (on 10/2021)
Could somebody (preferably a few) confirm if their computer (laptop) allows the old S3 Sleep in Windows 11? Which means USB keyboard/mouse wakeup works (also Wake-On-LAN works), opening the laptop lid wakes the computer, computer creates no heat while in sleep, typing "powercfg a" in a command prompt shows that S3 is available.

If you have those working, could you also mention your computer model and exact Windows version. And if you had to tweak things to get S3, what did you do?
Welcome to Eleven Forum

Windows 11 is no different from Windows 10 in regards to Modern Standby. It's not up to the OS, it's all down to the PC's hardware. If the PC's motherboard, bios and hardware support Modern Standby, then Windows will use it. Only if the PC's hardware does not support Modern Standby will S3 be available. Whether that S3 will wake on some or all events that you list is also make/model/bios dependant - some do, some don't.

My System One in 'My Computers' below this post is a fully W11 compatible PC, but its hardware does not support Modern Standby. Here is it's 'powercfg -a' (its Windows 11 version is shown on first line, 22000.282).

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My other fully W11 compatible PC is a Dell Latitude 5410 which does have Modern Standby. The system firmware does not support S3.

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
It's all about nobody understanding why Microsoft forces that and doesn't allow the good and old S3 Sleep mode. In short, a computer in the S0ix mode will run extremely hot while in sleep, especially when in a laptop bag.

Connected Standby (S0) has been around since Windows 8. New for Windows 10 MS added the ability to turn off network connectivity while in S0, thus reducing the power consumption.

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
Yes, it works for me. Medion S15450 with an Intel Core i5-1135G7 running on Windows 11 Home x64 version 21H2 build 22000.282. All I had to do was run
Code:
reg add HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power /v PlatformAoAcOverride /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f
from an elevated command prompt and reboot after.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
Yes, it works for me. Medion S15450 with an Intel Core i5-1135G7 running on Windows 11 Home x64 version 21H2 build 22000.282. All I had to do was run
Code:
reg add HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power /v PlatformAoAcOverride /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f
from an elevated command prompt and reboot after.
Thanks that's very good to know. My problematic computer is HP ZBook Studio 15 G7 (HP ZBSG7). When trying that trick, the sleep function crashes. Just black screen, very difficult to turn on/off the computer. After 1 minute of pushing and holding the power button several times, the computer switches on again. When that trick is in use, "powercfg a" claims S3 is available, but it behaves as mentioned, so it doesn't work for this computer.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 (on 10/2021)
Windows 11 is no different from Windows 10 in regards to Modern Standby. It's not up to the OS, it's all down to the PC's hardware. If the PC's motherboard, bios and hardware support Modern Standby, then Windows will use it. Only if the PC's hardware does not support Modern Standby will S3 be available.
Are you sure this information is accurate? I have seen information contrary to this. For example, in many threads I have read that Linux does support S3 on machines which only allow Modern Standby on Windows. Which would mean that mainly Microsoft is responsible for this.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 (on 10/2021)
The method to disable Modern Standby (on systems that support it) is officially documented:
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
Are you sure this information is accurate? I have seen information contrary to this...
No, I may be mistaken. My experience with Modern Standby is very new, I only got my first PC that supports it three weeks ago.

My preferred setup for all my laptops is that they should sleep (which ever way they can) on closing the lid, and that they should hibernate after 20 minutes of sleep. That I can do with S0 almost as easily as I have done with S3. The 'almost' in that last sentence is because first I had to restore 'Hibernate after' to the power options, by default it's missing in a clean install of 11 on a PC with S0. Hibernate uses no power, so whether the sleep is S0 or S3 is of little consequence for me and I haven't investigated any further than I felt I needed to to meet my normal uses.

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
Hibernate uses no power, so whether the sleep is S0 or S3 is of little consequence for me and I haven't investigated any further than I felt I needed to to meet my normal uses.
Ok thanks, but is your hibernation on the Modern Standby computer like mine: no USB keyboard/mouse wakeup is possible (and Wake-On-LAN doesn't work either), so there's no way to wake the laptop in any other way but by pressing the power button under the lid? When at home, I keep my laptop closed in a difficult place, meaning pressing the power button is very difficult.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 (on 10/2021)
but is your hibernation on the Modern Standby computer like mine: no USB keyboard/mouse wakeup is possible (and Wake-On-LAN doesn't work either), so there's no way to wake the laptop in any other way but by pressing the power button under the lid?
That is not an important issue for me, except in as much as I would prefer my systems to resume from hibernation on opening the lid. That ability seems to vary between make and model: some laptops do, some will only wake if power is connected at the time, and others only on pressing the power button. Some have bios options to modify this behaviour, others do not.

For my Modern Standby Dell laptop the bios options available are to enable or disable wake on Lan, and to enable waking from hibernation whenever the AC power is connected. But those available choices in the bios are very similar to those on another of my Dell laptops that does not support modern standby. Hence my statement earlier that I believe the wake options available for your particular machine depend more on what the OEM has decided to design into the bios, rather than whether the hardware supports S0 or not.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
The method to disable Modern Standby (on systems that support it) is officially documented:
That page also links to Modern Standby which says you can't switch between S0 or S3 without a complete OS reinstall.

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 RP ring
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude 5520
    CPU
    11th Gen Intel Core i7-1185G7 @ 3.00GHz
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    28" Samsung LU28e590DS
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    KBG40ZNS512G NVMe KIOXIA 512GB
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Sculpt Desktop
    Mouse
    Logitech Cheap Thing from Walmart
    Internet Speed
    AT&T Fiber 500 GB symmetric
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 canary ring
    Computer type
    Tablet
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Book 2
    Memory
    8 GB

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 23H2 Build 22631.3447
That page also links to Modern Standby which says you can't switch between S0 or S3 without a complete OS reinstall.

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For me, it works. I have searched almost everywhere on the internet for months. It turns out that if this method still fails, usually it's because it's a laptop from Dell with a BIOS from Dell and that causes the method to fail. There are only few exceptions to this. Not all systems from Dell show this kind of annoying behavior, though. But a lot of them still do. Sometimes the Dell laptop user had it working, then after the user had received a BIOS upgrade through Windows Automatic Updates, the method to disable Modern Standby quit working. And the user could not find a way to revert back to the previous BIOS version. AFAIK if you are a Dell victim like that, then the only choice you have besides ditching the laptop altogether is to use rEFInd with a loader that bypasses the official BIOS from Dell so that the S3 power state will be added back to the ACPI table as a result, but there's a catch, as you can't use this workaround without keeping Secure Boot turned off. Dell = pure Evil.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
AFAIK if you are a Dell victim like that, then the only choice you have besides ditching the laptop altogether is to use rEFInd with a loader that bypasses the official BIOS from Dell so that the S3 power state will be added back to the ACPI table as a result....
For my Dell Latitude 5410 I have set it to hibernate 20 minutes after I close the lid, as I said in post #8
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
For my Dell Latitude 5410 I have set it to hibernate 20 minutes after I close the lid, as I said in post #8
For me and many others like me, that would simply not be a workable solution in any way.
 

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    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
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    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
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    Logitech K800
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    Logitech G402
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    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
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    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
My laptop is plugged in literally 99.999% of the time, I just have it permanently plugged into a dock and 4K monitor. My biggest pain point (if you can call it that) is that for some reason it blows the fan at 100% blast every time it enters S0 (literally seconds after the screen turns off, the fan blasts at 100%). Jiggle the mouse and wake up the screen, now it's back to silent operation. Dell has re-imaged it like 10x and basically says "that's the way it is", but I think if it went to S3 it would be quiet.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 RP ring
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude 5520
    CPU
    11th Gen Intel Core i7-1185G7 @ 3.00GHz
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    28" Samsung LU28e590DS
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    KBG40ZNS512G NVMe KIOXIA 512GB
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Sculpt Desktop
    Mouse
    Logitech Cheap Thing from Walmart
    Internet Speed
    AT&T Fiber 500 GB symmetric
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 canary ring
    Computer type
    Tablet
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Book 2
    Memory
    8 GB

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    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 23H2 Build 22631.3447
My laptop is plugged in literally 99.999% of the time, I just have it permanently plugged into a dock and 4K monitor.
Same here (but I use a hub instead of a dock, a 4K TV instead of a 4K monitor).
My biggest pain point (if you can call it that) is that for some reason it blows the fan at 100% blast every time it enters S0 (literally seconds after the screen turns off, the fan blasts at 100%). Jiggle the mouse and wake up the screen, now it's back to silent operation. Dell has re-imaged it like 10x and basically says "that's the way it is", but I think if it went to S3 it would be quiet.
I actually even keep Turbo Boost turned off (with ThrottleStop) just so it stays quiet, and it's standing at 13 ft distance away from me. So yes, I definitely understand your pain. Like @Try3 said, turning Modern Standby off is well worth giving a shot. Note that it will be automatically turned back on if you perform an in-place upgrade to repair Windows (or if you upgrade from Windows 10 to 11 by using the Installation Assistant), so always remember to turn it off once again after that, if you want to keep it turned off.

To disable Modern Standby:
reg add HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power /v PlatformAoAcOverride /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f

To re-enable Modern Standby:
reg delete HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power /v PlatformAoAcOverride /f
 

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  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
Ran the command and rebooted, but it appears to have disabled S0 without enabling S3.

This may not be expected result but who knows, maybe it'll actually solve my own personal problem case of an obnoxiously loud fan when the screens turn off, at the expense of perhaps some power savings.


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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 RP ring
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude 5520
    CPU
    11th Gen Intel Core i7-1185G7 @ 3.00GHz
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    28" Samsung LU28e590DS
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    KBG40ZNS512G NVMe KIOXIA 512GB
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Sculpt Desktop
    Mouse
    Logitech Cheap Thing from Walmart
    Internet Speed
    AT&T Fiber 500 GB symmetric
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 canary ring
    Computer type
    Tablet
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Book 2
    Memory
    8 GB
Ran the command and rebooted, but it appears to have disabled S0 without enabling S3.

Shawn,

I'm in the same boat.

I decided to stick with S0 Modern standby disabled even though it means I only have: on, hibernate, off.
At least I can control what's going on and my long scripts can run to completion despite the display being turned off by Power options.
[I noticed that you referred to the need to run scripts in one of your other posts on the subject].

I did, for a while, try a workaround that stopped S0 Modern standby being triggered but gave up & disabled it.
- Set Power options to always keep the display on [thus stopping S0 Modern standby being triggered].
- Set a dark screensaver to come on after a minute or so in order to stop the screen staring at me all day if I was not actively using that computer. I also set up a shortcut so I could trigger the screensaver manually whenever I felt like it.
There was nothing actually wrong with this arrangement but I just decided disabling S0 Modern standby would be more straightforward. My intense resentment of S0 Modern standby was a factor in reaching this opinion.

All the best,
Denis
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 23H2 Build 22631.3447
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