Dual boot win 11 + win11 and TPM 2.0


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BobD

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I'm still dual booting Win 10 pro + Win 10 pro both fully updated and considering going to Win 11 soon. Currently all of my drives are GPT. I'm doing UEFI secure boot and the firmware TPM 2.0 is enabled. My processor is Intel i7-11700K and the mainboard is MSI MPG-Z590M GAMING EDGE WIFI

When I dual boot win 11 does the TPM sort out what keys and info belong to each system? I assume brighter minds than mine are well ahead of me but I'm trying to be cautious.
thanks
Bob
 
Windows Build/Version
win 10 21H1 19043.1165

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 22H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Bob the Builder
    CPU
    Intel i7-13700KF @ 5.4GHz
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG Z790 Edge WiFi DDR4
    Memory
    G-Skill F4-3200C16-16GVK x 2 (32GB total)
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Ventus 2X 8G OCV1 LHR
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC4080 (mobo chipset)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 28 inch Display 288E2UAE
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 (16 x 9)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro NVMe M2 500GB, Samsung 980 NVMe M2 500GB, Samsung 2.5" SSD 1TB, Seagate 2.5" ST5000 5TB, Seagate Barracuda NVMe M2 1TB, Samsung MZVL2512HCJQ OEM NVMe M2 1TB
    PSU
    MSI MPG R850GF PSU (850W)
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 Compact ATX
    Cooling
    CoolerMaster MA610P
    Keyboard
    HAVIT mechanical keyboard HV-KB390L TKL
    Mouse
    Logitech M350 Pebble Mouse BT + wireless
    Internet Speed
    50 x 20 megabits / second fibre
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft
    Other Info
    Intel Ethernet 1226-V 2.5GHz @ 1GHz
    Intel Wi-Fi 6E AX210
    ASUS router RT-AX86U with Wi-Fi 6
    Logitech BRIO webcam
    Macrium Reflect 8.1 paid for backups etc.
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 22H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI SUMMIT E16 FLIP EVO A11MT-013AU
    CPU
    Intel i7-1195G7
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Iris Xe graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" 120Hz Pen Touch panel
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600 (16 x 10)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVMe 980 Pro 1TB
    PSU
    Delta Electronics ADP-65SD B, HP 1HE08AA
    Keyboard
    Full Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech M350 Pebble Mouse BT + wireless
    Internet Speed
    50 x 20 megabits / second fibre
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft
    Other Info
    Killer Wi-Fi 6E 1675x (210NGW)
    MSI Pen
    Web Cam with Windows Hello Face
    Fingerprint Reader
    ASUS router RT-AX86U with Wi-Fi 6
    Macrium Reflect 8 paid for backups etc.
What you can do with Windows 10 same things applies to Windows 11.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    Erica6
    Memory
    Micron Technology DDR4-3200 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC671
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster U28E590
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG MZVLQ1T0HALB-000H1
FreeBooter said:
What you can do with Windows 10 same things applies to Windows 11.
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However, as far as I know, the TPM is not useful in Win 10 but will be required in Win 11. I'm asking if anyone has done what I'm thinking of doing.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 22H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Bob the Builder
    CPU
    Intel i7-13700KF @ 5.4GHz
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG Z790 Edge WiFi DDR4
    Memory
    G-Skill F4-3200C16-16GVK x 2 (32GB total)
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Ventus 2X 8G OCV1 LHR
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC4080 (mobo chipset)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 28 inch Display 288E2UAE
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 (16 x 9)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro NVMe M2 500GB, Samsung 980 NVMe M2 500GB, Samsung 2.5" SSD 1TB, Seagate 2.5" ST5000 5TB, Seagate Barracuda NVMe M2 1TB, Samsung MZVL2512HCJQ OEM NVMe M2 1TB
    PSU
    MSI MPG R850GF PSU (850W)
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 Compact ATX
    Cooling
    CoolerMaster MA610P
    Keyboard
    HAVIT mechanical keyboard HV-KB390L TKL
    Mouse
    Logitech M350 Pebble Mouse BT + wireless
    Internet Speed
    50 x 20 megabits / second fibre
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft
    Other Info
    Intel Ethernet 1226-V 2.5GHz @ 1GHz
    Intel Wi-Fi 6E AX210
    ASUS router RT-AX86U with Wi-Fi 6
    Logitech BRIO webcam
    Macrium Reflect 8.1 paid for backups etc.
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 22H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI SUMMIT E16 FLIP EVO A11MT-013AU
    CPU
    Intel i7-1195G7
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Iris Xe graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" 120Hz Pen Touch panel
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600 (16 x 10)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVMe 980 Pro 1TB
    PSU
    Delta Electronics ADP-65SD B, HP 1HE08AA
    Keyboard
    Full Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech M350 Pebble Mouse BT + wireless
    Internet Speed
    50 x 20 megabits / second fibre
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft
    Other Info
    Killer Wi-Fi 6E 1675x (210NGW)
    MSI Pen
    Web Cam with Windows Hello Face
    Fingerprint Reader
    ASUS router RT-AX86U with Wi-Fi 6
    Macrium Reflect 8 paid for backups etc.
Windows 7 and Windows 10 both have extensive support for TPMs. Windows 11 will only run on PCs that have TPM capabilities.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    Erica6
    Memory
    Micron Technology DDR4-3200 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC671
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster U28E590
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG MZVLQ1T0HALB-000H1
Yeah. Windows 10 can do the same things with TPM as Win11 can. Win11 just makes having it mandatory.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 Current build
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HomeBrew
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
    Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
    Memory
    4 * 32 GB - Corsair Vengeance 3600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING (12G-P5-3955-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC1220 Codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2x Eve Spectrum ES07D03 4K Gaming Monitor (Matte) | Eve Spectrum ES07DC9 4K Gaming Monitor (Glossy)
    Screen Resolution
    3x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    3x Samsung 980 Pro NVMe PCIe 4 M.2 2 TB SSD (MZ-V8P2T0B/AM) } 3x Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 1 TB SSD (USB)
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling’s Silencer Series 1050 Watt, 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark ATX Full Tower Case
    Cooling
    Arctic Liquid Freezer III 420 RGB + Air 3x 140mm case fans (pull front) + 1x 120 mm (push back) and 1 x 120 mm (pull bottom)
    Keyboard
    SteelSeries Apex Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S | MX Master 3 for Business
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
    Browser
    Nightly (default) + Firefox (stable), Chrome, Edge , Arc
    Antivirus
    Defender + MB 5 Beta
  • Operating System
    ChromeOS Flex Dev Channel (current)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E5470
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell laptop display 15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryville 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
    PSU
    Dell
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Dell
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S (shared w. Sys 1) | Dell TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
BobD said:
However, as far as I know, the TPM is not useful in Win 10 but will be required in Win 11. I'm asking if anyone has done what I'm thinking of doing.
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Windows 10 has the exact same TPM support as Windows 11 does. The only difference is that the Windows 11 setup routine makes TPM mandatory (not Windows 11 itself, so far only the setup routine). That's why it is a myth that Windows 11 is more secure than Windows 10. It's only the default settings themselves in Windows 11 that are more secure, but Windows 10 offers the same security features, it's just that some of them are not enabled by default in Windows 10, but they are available.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
    Internet Speed
    Fast!
BobD said:
When I dual boot win 11 does the TPM sort out what keys and info belong to each system?
Click to expand...
Thanks for the replies. I'll have to wait until I actually dual boot Win 11 + Win 11 to find out the answer.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 22H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Bob the Builder
    CPU
    Intel i7-13700KF @ 5.4GHz
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG Z790 Edge WiFi DDR4
    Memory
    G-Skill F4-3200C16-16GVK x 2 (32GB total)
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Ventus 2X 8G OCV1 LHR
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC4080 (mobo chipset)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 28 inch Display 288E2UAE
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 (16 x 9)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro NVMe M2 500GB, Samsung 980 NVMe M2 500GB, Samsung 2.5" SSD 1TB, Seagate 2.5" ST5000 5TB, Seagate Barracuda NVMe M2 1TB, Samsung MZVL2512HCJQ OEM NVMe M2 1TB
    PSU
    MSI MPG R850GF PSU (850W)
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 Compact ATX
    Cooling
    CoolerMaster MA610P
    Keyboard
    HAVIT mechanical keyboard HV-KB390L TKL
    Mouse
    Logitech M350 Pebble Mouse BT + wireless
    Internet Speed
    50 x 20 megabits / second fibre
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft
    Other Info
    Intel Ethernet 1226-V 2.5GHz @ 1GHz
    Intel Wi-Fi 6E AX210
    ASUS router RT-AX86U with Wi-Fi 6
    Logitech BRIO webcam
    Macrium Reflect 8.1 paid for backups etc.
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 22H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI SUMMIT E16 FLIP EVO A11MT-013AU
    CPU
    Intel i7-1195G7
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Iris Xe graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" 120Hz Pen Touch panel
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600 (16 x 10)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVMe 980 Pro 1TB
    PSU
    Delta Electronics ADP-65SD B, HP 1HE08AA
    Keyboard
    Full Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech M350 Pebble Mouse BT + wireless
    Internet Speed
    50 x 20 megabits / second fibre
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft
    Other Info
    Killer Wi-Fi 6E 1675x (210NGW)
    MSI Pen
    Web Cam with Windows Hello Face
    Fingerprint Reader
    ASUS router RT-AX86U with Wi-Fi 6
    Macrium Reflect 8 paid for backups etc.
BobD said:
However, as far as I know, the TPM is not useful in Win 10 but will be required in Win 11. I'm asking if anyone has done what I'm thinking of doing.
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I'm dual booting Windows 10 and Windows 11.

If I have a discrete video card in my computer, I will have to enable it in Windows 10. I will also have to enable it in Windows 11. My SSD drive is partitioned for Windows 10 & 11. When I boot to Windows 10, the computer knows which partition to use. When I boot to Windows 11, the computer knows which partition to use.

I have to install software to each "computer". IOW, Microsoft 365 has to be installed to each partition (Windows 10 and Windows 11). Any changes to the BIOS must be made for both. I could NOT have Secure Boot turned off in Windows 10, but turned on in Windows 11.

Hopefully, this is what you're looking for.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 22631.2861
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy TE01-1xxx
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz
    Motherboard
    16.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1463MHz (21-21-21-47)
    Memory
    16384 MBytes
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Monitor 1 - Acer 27" Monitor 2 - Acer 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WDC PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-512G-1006 (SSD)
    Seagate ST1000DM003-1SB102
    Seagate BUP Slim SCSI Disk Device (SSD)
    PSU
    HP
    Case
    HP
    Cooling
    Standard
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave K350
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Internet Speed
    500 mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's all Folks!
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 (10th gen) 10700
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Built-in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 27" & Samsung 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x
    Hard Drives
    SSD (512 GB)
    HDD (1 TB)
    Seagate
    PSU
    Intel i7 10th Generation
    Case
    HP
    Cooling
    HP/Intel?
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave K350
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Internet Speed
    50 mbps
    Browser
    Firefox 90.2
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Headphone/Microphone Combo
    SuperSpeed USB Type-A (4 on front)
    HP 3-in-One Card Readr
    SuperSpeed USB Type-C
    DVD Writer
Wynona said:
Any changes to the BIOS must be made for both. I could have Secure Boot turned off in Windows 10, but turned on in Windows 11.

Hopefully, this is what you're looking for.
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Since secure boot is a function in BIOS, how can it be turned off in Windows 10, but turned on in Windows 11, unless you go into BIOS and change the setting before booting?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
    Internet Speed
    Fast!
I'm dual booting regular W10 and clean install of insider, developer W11 on separate disks and have no problems. W11 was installed after W10. It (W11) even recognized W10 on another disk and made a BOOT menu to choose from. Only thing that's "off" is that after install and every update it places W11 at top of list and as default.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W11 Pro and Insider Dev
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home brewed
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 7900x
    Motherboard
    ASROCK b650 PRO RS
    Memory
    2x8GB Kingston 6000MHz, Cl 32 @ 6200MHz Cl30
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte Rx 6600XT Gaming OC 8G Pro
    Sound Card
    MB, Realtek Ac1220p
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 x 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Kingston KC3000. 1TBSamsung 970 evo Plus 500GB, Crucial P1 NVMe 1TB, Lexar NVMe 2 TB, Silicon Power M.2 SATA 500GB
    PSU
    Seasonic 750W
    Case
    Custom Raidmax
    Cooling
    Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360mm
    Internet Speed
    20/19 mbps
NavyLCDR said:
Since secure boot is a function in BIOS, how can it be turned off in Windows 10, but turned on in Windows 11, unless you go into BIOS and change the setting before booting?
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Yeah, I thought of that after I posted. And forgot to go in and change it.

There! I fixed it.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 22631.2861
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy TE01-1xxx
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz
    Motherboard
    16.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1463MHz (21-21-21-47)
    Memory
    16384 MBytes
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Monitor 1 - Acer 27" Monitor 2 - Acer 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WDC PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-512G-1006 (SSD)
    Seagate ST1000DM003-1SB102
    Seagate BUP Slim SCSI Disk Device (SSD)
    PSU
    HP
    Case
    HP
    Cooling
    Standard
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave K350
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Internet Speed
    500 mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's all Folks!
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 (10th gen) 10700
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Built-in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 27" & Samsung 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x
    Hard Drives
    SSD (512 GB)
    HDD (1 TB)
    Seagate
    PSU
    Intel i7 10th Generation
    Case
    HP
    Cooling
    HP/Intel?
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave K350
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Internet Speed
    50 mbps
    Browser
    Firefox 90.2
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Headphone/Microphone Combo
    SuperSpeed USB Type-A (4 on front)
    HP 3-in-One Card Readr
    SuperSpeed USB Type-C
    DVD Writer
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