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If I change recycle bin properties from custom size to dont move files to recycle bin where do they go are they completely removed from PC or do they go into some hidden folder
 

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Lawnmower74 said:
If I change recycle bin properties from custom size to dont move files to recycle bin where do they go are they completely removed from PC or do they go into some hidden folder
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Without the recycle bin the files are permanently deleted, so having the bin is a way to prevent accidental deletion of important files
 

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Lawnmower74 said:
are they completely removed from PC
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As @BrianInEngland says they are permanently deleted and should be treated as such.

The only caveat I would add is that the files are still recoverable after deletion (using software designed for such purposes) providing that no other data has overwritten the disk clusters used by the deleted files after the files were deleted.
 

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wiganken said:
As @BrianInEngland says they are permanently deleted and should be treated as such.

The only caveat I would add is that the files are still recoverable after deletion (using software designed for such purposes) providing that no other data has overwritten the disk clusters used by the deleted files after the files were deleted.
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That's not always the case. I have had files that were accidentally deleted and were unrecoverable. My recovery programs were already installed and my trying to undelete them was the very first thing I did.
 

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Winuser said:
That's not always the case.
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Perhaps I should have said 'may be recoverable" instead of "are still recoverable". Another caveat. :-)
 

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But fact is, that deleted files stay on your 'disk' (either HDD or SSD) until they are overwritten. Even if you yourself did not manage to retreive them by some program, they (indeed) may still exist on the drive. That is not bad as long as you are using that drive, but if ever you are disposing the device (or in case of portable devices they are stolen or lost), someone else who has the right software could under circumstances reach data that you would not like they can see.

That's why I always destruct my drives mechanically before I dispose them. Hard drives I take apart and put some deep scratches on the disk surfaces. SSD-pcbs are crushed between a vice...

And data on portable devices should always be encoded in some way!
 

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Kees said:
That's why I always destruct my drives mechanically before I dispose them.
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Yes, that's what I do. A big hammer and chisel works.
 

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Kees said:
But fact is, that deleted files stay on your 'disk' (either HDD or SSD) until they are overwritten. Even if you yourself did not manage to retreive them by some program, they (indeed) may still exist on the drive. That is not bad as long as you are using that drive, but if ever you are disposing the device (or in case of portable devices they are stolen or lost), someone else who has the right software could under circumstances reach data that you would not like they can see.

That's why I always destruct my drives mechanically before I dispose them. Hard drives I take apart and put some deep scratches on the disk surfaces. SSD-pcbs are crushed between a vice...

And data on portable devices should always be encoded in some way!
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I'm not that paranoid, if I'm selling a used SSD I just run the Samsung secure erase or similar before removal
 

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wiganken said:
Yes, that's what I do. A big hammer and chisel works.
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Or a big ass magnet if you fancy spicing things up! Ofc only work for HD not ssds etc
 

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BrianInEngland said:
I'm not that paranoid
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I never sell old drives, as for me they are not worth the trouble posting an advertisement. I often just store them for 'just in case that'.
I don't erase them either, because it simply takes too much time. I just write a note on it what's on it for possible future use.

But at the time I decide to clean my storage room, they are old, often very old and their capacity not anymore usable. Example: SSD drive 128 GByte, used in a PC from 2013 until 2020. Not worth the trouble selling it. Could erase it, but that demands to put the drive into a working PC and connect it to the motherboard. Why would I do that, if I just can crush the PCB in a vice? I am sure it is not paranoid do that, because I know where they are disassembled often if recycled and I don't trust those places! Better safe then sorry.
 

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Kees said:
I never sell old drives, as for me they are not worth the trouble posting an advertisement. I often just store them for 'just in case that'.
I don't erase them either, because it simply takes too much time. I just write a note on it what's on it for possible future use.

But at the time I decide to clean my storage room, they are old, often very old and their capacity not anymore usable. Example: SSD drive 128 GByte, used in a PC from 2013 until 2020. Not worth the trouble selling it. Could erase it, but that demands to put the drive into a working PC and connect it to the motherboard. Why would I do that, if I just can crush the PCB in a vice? I am sure it is not paranoid do that, because I know where they are disassembled often if recycled and I don't trust those places! Better safe then sorry.
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100% agree, im in one of those lucky camps where, you could steal everything from my pc right now, and i wouldnt really lose much other than some game installs and stuff lol! Guess i aint got important shiz like some people on they're pcs! Guess i aint important enough haha!
 

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I have seen reportages where old PCs were taken apart in 'recyling' centres somewhere in the 'third world' (don't want to mention the country here). There they put the drives that they took out in a working PC and read all available data out. Especially e-mails were interesting as well as name lists / family overviews. With those data they started chats, emails or telephonecalls to family members to tell them stories about (for example) children having troubles abroad and needing money. They really were proud about the results they had, not even trying to hide themselves behind faded faces or something like that. Why should they, they are almost uncatchable in those countries!

That did confirm the need for erasing your data (which I already did before) on computers you don't use anymore and bring to the recycling station, even if that data does not seem to contain very important facts!
 

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Kees said:
I have seen reportages where old PCs were taken apart in 'recyling' centres somewhere in the 'third world' (don't want to mention the country here). There they put the drives that they took out in a working PC and read all available data out. Especially e-mails were interesting as well as name lists / family overviews. With those data they started chats, emails or telephonecalls to family members to tell them stories about (for example) children having troubles abroad and needing money. They really were proud about the results they had, not even trying to hide themselves behind faded faces or something like that. Why should they, they are almost uncatchable in those countries!

That did confirm the need for erasing your data (which I already did before) on computers you don't use anymore and bring to the recycling station, even if that data does not seem to contain very important facts!
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ive never threw away any parts of pc's before, i did however smash a laptop into about 83823494 pieces, the hard drive was a good few of those pieces, then it got tossed right in the bin
 

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ShamrockRig said:
about 83823494 pieces
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83823494 is a precise number? It seems like you counted the pieces so the 'about' doesn't seem to fit? Just joking.
:-)
 

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wiganken said:
83823494 is a precise number? It seems like you counted the pieces so the 'about' doesn't seem to fit? Just joking.
:-)
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Its about as i may have lost a couple when counting em all out D: Weirder thing is...it took me 8382349 to count out how many i had!
 

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