Enabling NUM lock on every boot up

ICIT2LOL · May 21, 2024

I have a two-year-old 17" Asus Vivobook which originally came with Windows 10 Pro installed. I upgraded to Windows 11 Pro shortly afterwards and it runs perfectly. Now I am trying to enable the machine to boot so that the NUM LOCK is permanently engaged but after changing the regedit HKEY_LOCAL MACHINE/Control Panel/Keyboard, HKEY Current User/Control panel/Keyboard, and those in HKEY_USERS/S 1-5-18 through 20 Control Panel to a setting of (2) for it to work and it does while I am still logged in.
But it keeps reverting back to I guess what is maybe a default setting for the original Windows 10 Pro version whenever I reboot the next day. I have looked in the Group Editor but cannot find any settings in there to get the NUM LOCK to do what I want.
Any thoughts and advice really appreciated.

Berton · May 21, 2024

The Tutorial for the NumLock either here or on tenforums.com works for me but I have to remember that it preserves the state of the NumLock during shutdown or reboot, if On it comes back On or if Off it comes back as Off.

garlin · May 21, 2024

We just had a recent thread about NUM LOCK. In certain situations, the NUM LOCK state gets reset after a wake. There's a script for a scheduled task to enforce the same setting whenever your PC restarts or resumes. Beware, this thread wanders all over, but the script might help you.

How to permanently enable Numlock

Hey. Here you can find a way that i use at my system , to permanently enable Numlock. We can put the file/s at the path we want. 1) Firstly, we need one of these 2 files. One its at ps.1 and the other is the .ps1 file compiled to .exe. 2) Next we need to run one of these at a) system Logon...

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antspants · May 21, 2024

I have a Bootup NumLock State [on or off] setting in my BIOS, Worth a look.

johnlgalt · May 22, 2024

antspants said:
I have a Bootup NumLock State [on or off] setting in my BIOS, Worth a look.

I was going to say this as well. Every machine I've built had a setting in the BIOS (older computers) / UEFI firmware (modern computers) to enable / disable the NUMLOCK status on boot. I know the OP mentioned this breaks on wake from sleep, but if certain ACPI Sleep states are also enabled (in UEFI), could it be possible that, even though the machine is being put to sleep, it's actually being handled by the UEFI, and thus being reset to default UEFI setting upon wake?

ICIT2LOL · May 22, 2024

Thanks all of you fellows I have now got a couple of options I didn't know about and will update as soo as I can :thumbsup:

glasskuter · May 22, 2024

antspants said:
I have a Bootup NumLock State [on or off] setting in my BIOS, Worth a look.

Yep, me too, in my PC

hdmi · May 22, 2024

If your BIOS doesn't have the NUMLOCK setting, then this is the solution that works:

Turn on num lock at log-in screen

I'm trying to turn "num lock" on when windows starts up, at login time. (I have Windows 10). I edited the registry at the following path: HKEY_USERS\Default\Control Panel\Keyboard\

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Fabler2 · May 22, 2024

More tips HERE

ICIT2LOL · May 22, 2024

Ok mates the BIOS does not have any NUM Lock settings so will try the other options here but have to go out right now so will do later and get back to you all.

hdmi · May 22, 2024

I was bored so I wrote a batchfile. Run it as an Administrator. In the same folder it generates fix_numlock.bat and undo_fix_numlock.bat, shows the contents of fix_numlock.bat, and asks you if you want to run fix_numlock.bat.

Batch:

@ECHO OFF
SET fix=fix_numlock.bat
SET undo=undo_fix_numlock.bat

FSUTIL DIRTY query %SystemDrive%>NUL||(
  ECHO ERROR - This batchfile must be run as an Administrator.
  <NUL SET /P V=Press any key to close this window ^. ^. ^.
  PAUSE>NUL
  EXIT)
SETLOCAL ENABLEDELAYEDEXPANSION
copy /y NUL "%~dp0%!fix!">NUL
copy /y NUL "%~dp0%!undo!">NUL
FOR /F "delims=" %%A IN ('reg query "HKCU\Control Panel\Keyboard" /v InitialKeyboardIndicators /t REG_SZ') DO (
  SET "V=%%A"
  SET V=!V:~0,17!
  IF "!V!" == "HKEY_CURRENT_USER" (
    SET "V=%%A"
    SET V=!V:~17!
    SET W=reg add ^"HKCU!V!^" /v InitialKeyboardIndicators /t REG_SZ /d
    SET X=reg add "HKCU!V!" /v InitialKeyboardIndicators /t REG_SZ /d 2 /f
  ) ELSE (
    SET "V=%%A"
    SET V=!V:~0,43!
    IF "!V!" == "    InitialKeyboardIndicators    REG_SZ    " (
      SET "V=%%A"
      SET V=!V:~43!
      IF NOT "!V!" == "2" (
        (ECHO :: !W! !V! /f
          ECHO    !X!)>>"%~dp0%!fix!"
        (ECHO :: !X!
          ECHO    !W! !V! /f)>>"%~dp0%!undo!"))))
FOR /F "delims=" %%A IN ('reg query HKU /s /v InitialKeyboardIndicators /t REG_SZ') DO (
  SET "V=%%A"
  SET V=!V:~0,10!
  IF "!V!" == "HKEY_USERS" (
    SET "V=%%A"
    SET V=!V:~10!
    SET W=reg add ^"HKU!V!^" /v InitialKeyboardIndicators /t REG_SZ /d
    SET X=reg add "HKU!V!" /v InitialKeyboardIndicators /t REG_SZ /d 2 /f
  ) ELSE (
    SET "V=%%A"
    SET V=!V:~0,43!
    IF "!V!" == "    InitialKeyboardIndicators    REG_SZ    " (
      SET "V=%%A"
      SET V=!V:~43!
      IF NOT "!V!" == "2" (
        (ECHO :: !W! !V! /f
          ECHO    !X!)>>"%~dp0%!fix!"
        (ECHO :: !X!
          ECHO    !W! !V! /f)>>"%~dp0%!undo!"))))
TYPE "%~dp0%!fix!"
ECHO.
ECHO Created "%~dp0%!fix!".
<NUL SET /P V=Press any key to run it (or hit CTRL + C to Abort) ^. ^. ^.
PAUSE>NUL
PROMPT $H
ECHO ON
@CALL "%~dp0%!fix!"
@ECHO OFF
PROMPT $P$G
ECHO.
ECHO To undo these registry changes, run the batchfile "%~dp0%!undo!" as an Administrator.
<NUL SET /P V=Press any key to close this window ^. ^. ^.
PAUSE>NUL

Brink · May 22, 2024

In addition:

Enable or Disable Num Lock on Sign-in Screen in Windows 10

How to Enable or Disable Num Lock on Sign-in Screen in Windows 10

www.tenforums.com

ICIT2LOL · May 22, 2024

Brink said:
In addition:

Enable or Disable Num Lock on Sign-in Screen in Windows 10

How to Enable or Disable Num Lock on Sign-in Screen in Windows 10

www.tenforums.com

Ok Shawn am trying this method now and I have also contacted Asus Australia Support to see if they have any other solutions. Mate frankly changing the registry values surely should not be able to be overridden by some sort of what I suspect is an Asus default setting.
Anyway I shall have to wait and see what tomorrow morning brings as that is when the NUMLock is found to be disabled - overnight as during the rest of the day after changing the registry key settings it works perfectly even after having to restart the machine for whatever reason.

Fabler2 · May 23, 2024

ICIT2LOL said:
Ok Shawn am trying this method now and I have also contacted Asus Australia Support to see if they have any other solutions. Mate frankly changing the registry values surely should not be able to be overridden by some sort of what I suspect is an Asus default setting.
Anyway I shall have to wait and see what tomorrow morning brings as that is when the NUMLock is found to be disabled - overnight as during the rest of the day after changing the registry key settings it works perfectly even after having to restart the machine for whatever reason.

Sounds like a fast startup setting to me rather than an ASUS setting. Turn it off in power options and make sure NumLock is on. See if ok after a few shutdowns (not restarts). If ok then turn fast startup again if needed. Worth a try.

hdmi · May 23, 2024

ICIT2LOL said:
changing the registry values surely should not be able to be overridden by some sort of what I suspect is an Asus default setting.

The correct explanation has already been provided by CEPtor almost fourteen years ago. (See the link I posted in my 1st reply.)

For some reason, the default value of some of the registry keys (not all) were changed in windows 7, which causes the system to apparently ignore the InitialKeyboardIndicators settings in the other locations.

Many years ago I have experienced this same exact problem myself also. That's how I know that you have to apply the registry change to the other locations in the registry also, as merely applying it under the key HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\Keyboard isn't necessarily always going to be enough to fix it in such a way that the fix will stay permanent.

ICIT2LOL · May 23, 2024

Fabler2 said:
Sounds like a fast startup setting to me rather than an ASUS setting. Turn it off in power options and make sure NumLock is on. See if ok after a few shutdowns (not restarts). If ok then turn fast startup again if needed. Worth a try.

Ok Fabler well this morning using that link by Brink seems to be working and it just is going to be a wait and see as this machine of mine seems to have a mind of it's own sometimes.

hdmi said:
The correct explanation has already been provided by CEPtor almost fourteen years ago. (See the link I posted in my 1st reply.)

Many years ago I have experienced this same exact problem myself also. That's how I know that you have to apply the registry change to the other locations in the registry also, as merely applying it under the key HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\Keyboard isn't necessarily always going to be enough to fix it in such a way that the fix will stay permanent.

Ok mate I will revisit the link in case it goes belly up again.