Get ready for Windows 11 version 25H2 - Enablement Package and ISO downloads available

Scannerman · Jul 10, 2025

Winuser said:
I miss the good ole Tandy Deskmate. Those were the days!

I would drive my wife bonkers with the dot matrix printer.

cereberus · Jul 10, 2025

Imagine if we went on a Linux forum and said we intend to ditch it for Windows - we would probably get Black Ops Clones visits in the middle of the night.

I cannot believe the ridiculously negative views about 25H2 based on a few minor bugs in Insider versions. Official 24H2 is rock solid for me, and I seriously doubt official 25H2 will be any different. Sure there are a couple of niggles here and there but no different to ANY OS.

I love the way people harp on about Windows 10 being stable, conveniently forgetting it took over 3 years before significant key issues were largely eradicated - micro freezing perhaps being the most significant issue. Of course, sure it is stable now BUT IT IS ALSO STAGNANT!

XxXxX · Jul 10, 2025

cereberus said:
Imagine if we went on a Linux forum and said we intend to ditch it for Windows - we would probably get Black Ops Clones visits in the middle of the night.

I cannot believe the ridiculously negative views about 25H2 based on a few minor bugs in Insider versions. Official 24H2 is rock solid for me, and I seriously doubt official 25H2 will be any different. Sure there are a couple of niggles here and there but no different to ANY OS.

I love the way people harp on about Windows 10 being stable, conveniently forgetting it took over 3 years before significant key issues were largely eradicated - micro freezing perhaps being the most significant issue. Of course, sure it is stable now BUT IT IS ALSO STAGNANT!

most Linux forums are harsh environments and can be very hostile to new users.
RTFM is often the stock reply.

but Linux has issues many with hardware and firmware which has a whole new set of command line parameters to overcome
as Linux on the most part doesn't have the GUI tools available that are available in Windows.

an example.
i would consider myself an experienced Linux user of Ubuntu.
now to disable the CPU turbo boost on Linux i had to change the default p_state CPU controllers to the older cpu_freq controllers
which is done via GRUB conf file as its a kernel parameter. then construct a cron job command line boot job to disable the CPU turbo boost controller. which would set the CPU freq file to 0 (zero) at boot time. the only question i was continuedly asked was 'why'

on Windows is a single registry change to do the above and the procedure is listed online.

i cant compare Windows 10 because when i bought the new systems for myself and the wife they came with Windows 11
but on the most part, now that i have tweaked them to work 'my way' they are rock solid and fast.

just my thoughts, best of luck, Steve ..

Winuser · Jul 11, 2025

Scannerman said:
I would drive my wife bonkers with the dot matrix printer.

I know what you mean. I've been there, done that.

Sheikh · Jul 11, 2025

maur0 said:
vs 21h2 lite

I have created a Windows 10 iso for myself. here is its usage: (20 background processes + 300MB of 16GB RAM)

maur0 · Jul 12, 2025

Sheikh said:
I have created a Windows 10 iso for myself. here is its usage: (20 background processes + 300MB of 16GB RAM)

very good, I'll take a look at your projects on github.

NormanF · Jul 12, 2025

Uudump is no go on Windows 11. Microsoft Defender detects it as malware and removes the command programme.

Its so frustrating an AV blocks a perfectly safe process to protect you from yourself because of a false positive!

And the creators of Uudump think nothing of letting Microsoft know about the issue.

Sheikh · Jul 12, 2025

maur0 said:
very good, I'll take a look at your projects on github.

Thank you. But I didn’t publish this version of windows because it’s not stable.
I will publish a public tweak for Windows 11. Wait for fourth version of my scripts, then you can use them on your own windows 11 without any issues. I’m working on it and asking members of the forum to make sure it won’t harm your device.
But if you’re interested in, you can use NTLite and some gaming presets. These presets will deactivate or remove some important parts of windows, but I’m working on a solution which is more reliable for daily usage. For example, I want to use windows update without any problems.

cereberus · Jul 12, 2025

NormanF said:
Uudump is no go on Windows 11. Microsoft Defender detects it as malware and removes the command programme.

Its so frustrating an AV blocks a perfectly safe process to protect you from yourself because of a false positive!

And the creators of Uudump think nothing of letting Microsoft know about the issue.

Never done that on my pcs.

Just set an exclusion up in Defender.

Sheikh · Jul 12, 2025

NormanF said:
Uudump is no go on Windows 11. Microsoft Defender detects it as malware and removes the command programme.

Its so frustrating an AV blocks a perfectly safe process to protect you from yourself because of a false positive!

And the creators of Uudump think nothing of letting Microsoft know about the issue.

I used uupdump last night and defender did not recognize it as a virus.
Before extracting the zip file, right click on it and select properties. Then select “unlock” (or maybe “unblock”) and apply.

NormanF · Jul 12, 2025

cereberus said:
Never done that on my pcs.

Just set an exclusion up in Defender.

I allowed it. No joy! It was flagged as VirTool:Win32/MaRak.A by Microsoft Defender.

garlin · Jul 12, 2025

Sheikh said:
I used uupdump last night and defender did not recognize it as a virus.
Before extracting the zip file, right click on it and select properties. Then select “unlock” (or maybe “unblock”) and apply.

That's not the problem, UUP dump's build script downloads a wide set of tools. Some of which are known to AV vendors as modding tools, and are automatically blocked. The tools are malware-free, but are blocked on general principle.

Diceman2037 · Jul 26, 2025

TairikuOkami said:
There will be no significant new features in upcoming 11 upgrades, 12 is the the next goal.

don't post bs.

IanMosley · Jul 26, 2025

NormanF said:
Uudump is no go on Windows 11. Microsoft Defender detects it as malware and removes the command programme.

Its so frustrating an AV blocks a perfectly safe process to protect you from yourself because of a false positive!

And the creators of Uudump think nothing of letting Microsoft know about the issue.

I've created UUP .iso's over the last few years and never had the .zip download & the expanded files blocked by Defender or my AV (- Malwarebytes)

Hazel123 · Jul 26, 2025

Is it possible to upgrade directly to 25H2 from 23H2 when it happens? Or do you need to be on 24H2 first?

Scannerman · Jul 26, 2025

cereberus said:
I love the way people harp on about Windows 10 being stable, conveniently forgetting it took over 3 years before significant key issues were largely eradicated - micro freezing perhaps being the most significant issue. Of course, sure it is stable now BUT IT IS ALSO STAGNANT!

Ha! You are correct. I have my own personal reasons for refusing to run Windows 10 on any of my work stations. Admittedly, I expected more from Win 11 but Co-Pilot wasn't one of those things. TPM2 for me was a huge disappointment. Rendering the majority of PCs already being used a non-compliant status when Win 11 was first released was less than impressive. I no longer care anymore. The Golden Age is gone.

The only thing that will impress me now is if that bare bones OS I keep "suggesting" miraculously manifests and we all know that ain't gonna happen. That doesn't mean I can't have fun playing around with my 7-11 builds with Linux on the side.

Bree · Jul 26, 2025

Hazel123 said:
Is it possible to upgrade directly to 25H2 from 23H2 when it happens? Or do you need to be on 24H2 first?

Yes, that will be possible. It will require a full replacement of all system files though, as would be done by an in-place upgrade with an ISO. So would a 23H2 > 24H2 upgrade, come to that.

24H2 and 25H2 share a common set of system files. By the time 25H2 is ready for release the 25H2 features will be present but disabled in 24H2. The Feature Update to 25H2 will be a small Enablement Package that turns them on.

As such, if you're still on 23H2, then you might as well get the full upgrade over and done with now, going to 24H2. The upgrade from there to 25H2 will be quick and easy.

Equalness · Aug 5, 2025

TairikuOkami said:
According to MS, 11 is dead, but they can not admit it, because they have just killed 10.
There will be no significant new features in upcoming 11 upgrades, 12 is the the next goal.

I'm assuming that MS implied this. If so, where was this implied? I haven't heard anything official about it.

cereberus · Aug 5, 2025

TairikuOkami said:
According to MS, 11 is dead, but they can not admit it, because they have just killed 10.
There will be no significant new features in upcoming 11 upgrades, 12 is the the next goal.

According to MS, 11 is dead, but they can not admit it
Rubbish!
How can MS state it is dead if they have not admitted it?

cereberus · Aug 5, 2025

Bree said:
It's been vegan since 2016. When did you stop drinking it?

I could get round drinking vegan guinness by adding a raw egg (my grandad lived off that when he was dying with cancer).

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