Hasleo Backup Suite

SIW2 said:

what is the irst version you use?

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Intel version pretty recent.

Works fine on any other winpe even release Hasleo (last time I checked).

pretty recent.

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That is useful information.

I do not have exact version without digging around in inf files but it is less than 6 month old.

I cannot get this to work - I manually injected drivers and now cannot get to tools menu to create usb drive.

The Beta version is buggy - often taking several attempts to open a screen.

My advice (based on my experiences) is to wait until a new Beta comes out.

cereberus said:

I cannot see my NVME drives in winpe mode despite adding my IRST drivers during winpe set up as requested.

The first time I did not add them and I went to rebuild the wim file but there is no option to do that (as far as I could tell). I had to uninstall Hasleo, reinstall and rebuild boot usb.

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Try installing the driver while WinPE is running.


Remove Boot Menu > Tools > Remove Boot Menu (if added)
Delete the .SDI and .WIM files in C:\boot
Delete winpe.iso in C:\Program Files\Hasleo\Hasleo Backup Suite\bin
Create Emergency Disk > Tools > Emergency Disk

@cereberus

Yes. I tried the beta3 version awhile back, and while it installs ok trying to generate an "emergency disk" severely falls over with BitDefender (turned on OR off) losing its' mind. The BitDefender panic is so strong that it quarantines the Hasleo uninstall.dat file and refuses to release it from quarantine - which means that uninstalling Hasleo beta3 requires some finangling in order to re-install the reliable version 3.8. I could try uninstalling BitDefender completely, but I'm just not that interested.

As a consequence, Hasleo delta restore for a full disk image waits for version 4 to appear (as least for me). Macrium and Aomei are sufficient in any case.

@ian50

You can create bootable media with Rufus using "winpe.iso" in C:\Program Files\Hasleo\Hasleo Backup Suite\bin. The winpe.iso file will be there if you have added the boot menu.

You may exclude Hasleo files/folders or the installer in Bitdefender.

Stigg said:

I've been following some extensive testing of Hasleo Backup Suite over the past months, and it's looking very promising.
It might be a good option for anyone looking for a free alternative to Macrium Reflect.

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I have been using Hasleo Backup Suite (HBS) on two HDD systems (stable on one and beta on another) for a few months. HBS has been impressive here, and I have performed over 100 restores with no issues. The Delta Restore took approximately 13% of the time compared to the normal restore here (4 Delta Restores). I only perform System Backups and System Mode Restores. HBS is speedy and on par with Macrium on reliability, from my experience. I have Macrium Home 8 on one system, used EaseUS Workstation (failed twice here), and used Aomei Backupper Pro for a while. HBS is my primary imaging solution because of its ease, speed, stability, and reliability.

Macrium is the super-best of all these kinds of software.........

cereberus said:

I cannot get this to work - I manually injected drivers and now cannot get to tools menu to create usb drive.

The Beta version is buggy - often taking several attempts to open a screen.

My advice (based on my experiences) is to wait until a new Beta comes out.

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khanyash said:

Try installing the driver while WinPE is running.
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Remove Boot Menu > Tools > Remove Boot Menu (if added)
Delete the .SDI and .WIM files in C:\boot
Delete winpe.iso in C:\Program Files\Hasleo\Hasleo Backup Suite\bin
Create Emergency Disk > Tools > Emergency Disk

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Thanks - I will try this.

@khanyash

Yes, thanks but I have tried those various fiddles without success. Even excluding the full Hasleo folder in Bitdefender did not stop the Bitdefender panic (as I did note above). Uninstalling Bitdefender and using some other AV is an option but I'll just wait for Hasleo version 4 to see if the Hasleo bug is gone; urgency is just not there.

@Froggie

It wants a service to run in winpe. It would be more convenient if running the BackupmainUi.exe would start the service from its current directory.

That way anybody beyond beginner could just copy the
%programfiles%\Hasleo\Hasleo Backup Suite\bin\WINPE\Program Files\Hasleo Backup Suite

folder onto a usb stick. Then boot up any winpe and run usbstick\Hasleo backup suite\bin\backupmainui.exe.

nice and portable.

Also much easier to update if it is on the stick instead of inside a wim file.

cereberus said:

Thanks - I will try this.

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I hope it will work. An admin from the Hasleo forum suggested trying it out. On a system with IRST, I encountered a similar issue. I disabled IRST in BIOS and enabled AHCI, so I did not bother trying.

cereberus said:

The Beta version is buggy - often taking several attempts to open a screen.

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The beta version, dated November 4, 2023, is running smoothly on Windows 11 with no problems. Could you explain further?

ian50 said:

Yes, thanks but I have tried those various fiddles without success. Even excluding the full Hasleo folder in Bitdefender did not stop the Bitdefender panic (as I did note above). Uninstalling Bitdefender and using some other AV is an option but I'll just wait for Hasleo version 4 to see if the Hasleo bug is gone; urgency is just not there.

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I am not familiar with Bitdefender's exclusion mechanism since I have not used it. The false positive from Bitdefender is not a bug in Hasleo, but likely because of its lack of a digital signature. Exclude Hasleo from all Bitdefender modules, including scan, real-time, and behavior.

I tried converting a WintoGo system back to an internal device -- now Windows thinks it's running a SERVER -- so --NOK.

Even if you uninstall the product and try and install macrium you get a fail -- cannot install on a server.

If you just want to copy / restore individual partitions or even clone disks I can't think of any better software (and it's free) as GPARTED. The interface is similar to most partition managers -- any Windows user would have absolutely no trouble in using it. Handles most practical file systems including Windows NTFS.

Another thing - if you are cloning disks and want to have them online - to avoid collisions you can change the partition GUUIDS without losing data too.



download the live iso and create usb via rufus or whatever or even install in WSL.


the latest license fee for Macrium is just too much if you mainly run windows from vhdx files. if you have decent size external disks for data backups and a decent amount of cloud space (Office/365 if you have it gives a decent size) then there's other ways of backing up and recovering data too.

cheers
jimbo

khanyash said:

Try installing the driver while WinPE is running.
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Remove Boot Menu > Tools > Remove Boot Menu (if added)
Delete the .SDI and .WIM files in C:\boot
Delete winpe.iso in C:\Program Files\Hasleo\Hasleo Backup Suite\bin
Create Emergency Disk > Tools > Emergency Disk

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I finally got it to work using insert driver, and I am impressed how Fast Delta Restore was.

I did same Delta Restore in Macrium Reflect and Hasleo Beta. Hasleo took around 45 seconds, Macrium took around 90 seconds.

Even doing a full restore rather tha a delta restore - Hasleo 2 minutes, Macrium 4 minutes.

I thought maybe it was compresson related but both were similar in size.

I have seen reports that other tools have overtaken Reflect in speeds terms - certainly seems to be the case.

Only issue I had with Hasleo, I had to renter drive each time I booted into usb drive.

If Hasleo sort out their gui a bit and improve driver handling, it could have a bright future.

This is a Reflect killer.

Stigg said:

This is a Reflect killer.

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Dont know (yet) , coz I use my Reflect backups always first choise . ( always succes , so far !)
If problems , AoMEI second choise ............then , when needed , Hasleo , Active BootDisk ...........

The substantial Reflect price increases are gonna be another reason why people look for a comparable program.

@Stigg

Agree -- prices far too high - especially when license is for just 1 machine. Can't see the company surviving much longer as an independent entity with this type of business model -- maybe the directors are hoping to make a killing on a takeover by "one of the big boys" -- Android systems for example don't have sensible backup options -- maybe google could be interested. !!

The only thing that's worth it for me in this suite is the PAID option in HASLEO software (if it works properly) where you can convert a wintogo type current windows installation back to one running on an internal disk.

The interface is clunky and complex - you need to have source (external) and target disks available -- it won't just convert a cloned copy of the external drive to the internal drive which should be the sensible way of doing it (if it's possible) - and worse still if you try and then run Macrium on the "converted" internal disk windows installation Macrium bombs out saying "Not valid on SERVER versions of Windows -- even when it's Win 11 pro".

For some reason even re-loading the Bootloader (bcdboot.exe) on a cloned copy of a wintogo system (via ordinary cloning processes -- macrium, etc other than hasleo) won't change the install from wintogo to internal.

There has to be some registry key or program running at boot that tells windows it's a wintogo system. I haven't yet found it -- maybe someone here experienced in Windows internals could post the solution. It can't be difficult since it's easy simply to create a windowstogo system by cloning a current install and re installing the bootloader (bcdboot.exe) on the external device - so I'm rather puzzled why the reverse mechanism doesn't work !!!!

I'm currently doing the process of updates and cloning both ways via the use of a VM and P2V / V2P conversions-- rather a convoluted way of doing it but at least it works 100% of the time.

Incidentally if you've loads of space and use vhdx files then just save those via file explorer etc. If you need to recover data simply from any running version of windows just attach the vhdx file and browse in Windows explorer.

cheers
jimbo