IMPORTANT Issue to be aware of if you use BitLocker on your OS drive


same sort of idea, I usually make my own pe which is a bit laborious. The end result is probably not massively different from using a builder
nice, would be curious on a separate thread how you do it as always used those tools but would prefer the power to do it myself without, even if more laborious as at least you can make it your own then
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz
    Memory
    32Gb
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    AVG Internet Security
A lot of trial and error and using ideas from elsewhere. Each new os and build involves more fiddling around. Been doing it a long while. Quite time consuming. A lot of people spend hours every day gaming. I do this kind of thing instead. It is often very frustrating.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    benq gw2480
    PSU
    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Operating System
    win7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    pentium g5400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    1x8gb 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450
This implies that a separate recov partition isn't needed:
Yes confirmed by real world test, you DON'T need a recovery partition. Just deleted one on a computer here with bitlocker enabled (with preboot authentication) and it works fine, could even press escape at pre-boot PIN prompt and enter bitlocker recovery key and it booted fine

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So that is another option then, on all new deployments don't create a recovery partition, and on all existing deployments remotely delete the recovery partition
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz
    Memory
    32Gb
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    AVG Internet Security
Just tried it in two ways:

1) Installed Windows clean, recovery partition last. Deleted the recovery partition and extended the Win partition. Enabled BitLocker. That worked perfectly.

2) Installed Windows clean, recovery partition last. Enabled BitLocker first and allowed it to finish encryption. Then I Deleted the recovery partition and extended the Win partition. This also worked perfectly.

In both cases I installed Win 11 22H2 which I have fully updated. The install.wim, winre.wim, boot.wim, and all other parts of the ISO outside of the WIM images have been updated to build 1105 (the Jan 2023 patch Tuesday updates).

I may have to seriously consider going that route from now on. After all, I ALWAYS have a bootable UFD with which takes the place of that anyway.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    128GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz DRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - CPU graphics only (for now)
    Sound Card
    Realtek (on motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe Gen 4 x 4 SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe Gen 3 x 4 SSD
    2 x 512GB 2.5" SSDs
    2 x 8TB HD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCue 5000X RGB
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cooler + 10 case fans
    Keyboard
    CODE backlit mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Additional options installed:
    WiFi 6E PCIe adapter
    ASUS ThunderboltEX 4 PCIe adapter
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
Sorry, I responded before I saw your post :-). At least we both confirmed it :-)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    128GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz DRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - CPU graphics only (for now)
    Sound Card
    Realtek (on motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe Gen 4 x 4 SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe Gen 3 x 4 SSD
    2 x 512GB 2.5" SSDs
    2 x 8TB HD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCue 5000X RGB
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cooler + 10 case fans
    Keyboard
    CODE backlit mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Additional options installed:
    WiFi 6E PCIe adapter
    ASUS ThunderboltEX 4 PCIe adapter
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
Can I ask a question? What the heck is wrong with us that we are playing with this stuff on a Saturday?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    128GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz DRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - CPU graphics only (for now)
    Sound Card
    Realtek (on motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe Gen 4 x 4 SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe Gen 3 x 4 SSD
    2 x 512GB 2.5" SSDs
    2 x 8TB HD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCue 5000X RGB
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cooler + 10 case fans
    Keyboard
    CODE backlit mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Additional options installed:
    WiFi 6E PCIe adapter
    ASUS ThunderboltEX 4 PCIe adapter
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
Sorry, I responded before I saw your post :-). At least we both confirmed it :-)
Was definitely worth testing just to prove the point, as you say it gives us options now. And like you I would always boot from a UFD to solve problems anyway so never need the RE anyway.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz
    Memory
    32Gb
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    AVG Internet Security
Can I ask a question? What the heck is wrong with us that we are playing with this stuff on a Saturday?
Good question! sadly I don't have an answer
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz
    Memory
    32Gb
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    AVG Internet Security
A lot of trial and error and using ideas from elsewhere. Each new os and build involves more fiddling around. Been doing it a long while. Quite time consuming. A lot of people spend hours every day gaming. I do this kind of thing instead. It is often very frustrating.
Man, you ain't kidding. But there's also a heck of a lot of satisfaction when you resolve a complex riddle.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    128GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz DRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - CPU graphics only (for now)
    Sound Card
    Realtek (on motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe Gen 4 x 4 SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe Gen 3 x 4 SSD
    2 x 512GB 2.5" SSDs
    2 x 8TB HD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCue 5000X RGB
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cooler + 10 case fans
    Keyboard
    CODE backlit mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Additional options installed:
    WiFi 6E PCIe adapter
    ASUS ThunderboltEX 4 PCIe adapter
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
I was successfully able to update my non-Bitlocker desktop using the method on page 2...thanks! Since it seems to be working...I was able to boot into Windows RE (i.e. advanced startup options)...I'll likely do the same with my laptop. The difference is that my recovery image on my desktop is on a Recovery partition and my laptop has the image on the C:drive...hidden Recovery folder. At first I thought I'd deleted the partition when I was setting up my laptop after clean install a while ago. I later found that some more recent installs are doing away with the Recovery Partition (at least I read that somewhere)...I originally thought I was wrong and made a new Recovery partition...i later restored it back to being on the C: drive where I found it. That at least prevents me from having to make periodic partition size changes. I recall Windows would actually do this during major updates. Anyways...I suspect that the RE image doesn't get updated often because they don't expect people to be working in it much...and therefore require the bug and security fixes?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel i7-7700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime Z-270A
    Memory
    32GB 2666Mhz (Kingston Hyper X Fury)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Nvidia 1050Ti
    Sound Card
    N/A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung C27F390
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Evo 512GB
There are occasional updates to the WinRE.wim via the "Safe OS Updates", but those get applied to your installation media. This is the first time ever that I recall needing to update the Recovery Environment on installed systems.

It usually only gets updated when a major Windows version update (such as going from Win 11 original release to 22H2) takes place.

But, even in this instance, there is no need to update it unless you are using BitLocker on the OS drive.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    128GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz DRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - CPU graphics only (for now)
    Sound Card
    Realtek (on motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe Gen 4 x 4 SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe Gen 3 x 4 SSD
    2 x 512GB 2.5" SSDs
    2 x 8TB HD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCue 5000X RGB
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cooler + 10 case fans
    Keyboard
    CODE backlit mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Additional options installed:
    WiFi 6E PCIe adapter
    ASUS ThunderboltEX 4 PCIe adapter
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
Just tried it in two ways:

1) Installed Windows clean, recovery partition last. Deleted the recovery partition and extended the Win partition. Enabled BitLocker. That worked perfectly.

2) Installed Windows clean, recovery partition last. Enabled BitLocker first and allowed it to finish encryption. Then I Deleted the recovery partition and extended the Win partition. This also worked perfectly.

In both cases I installed Win 11 22H2 which I have fully updated. The install.wim, winre.wim, boot.wim, and all other parts of the ISO outside of the WIM images have been updated to build 1105 (the Jan 2023 patch Tuesday updates).

I may have to seriously consider going that route from now on. After all, I ALWAYS have a bootable UFD with which takes the place of that anyway.
It means there won't be autofailover in case of problems with startup etc.

I ALWAYS have a bootable UFD with which takes the place of that anyway.

can use that instead.

Not sure if that matters for wingers machines. Just noticed he said it doesnt.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    benq gw2480
    PSU
    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Operating System
    win7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    pentium g5400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    1x8gb 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450
Not sure if that matters for wingers machines
if we have issues where a computer won't even boot then we boot from a UFD with various tools on to fix any basic issues or if terminal to recover any data (although technically they shouldn't be saving data locally!), but usually we just reapply our custom image again as usually it is just quicker to do this than it is to spend time fixing problems if files etc corrupt
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz
    Memory
    32Gb
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    AVG Internet Security
There are occasional updates to the WinRE.wim via the "Safe OS Updates", but those get applied to your installation media. This is the first time ever that I recall needing to update the Recovery Environment on installed systems.

It usually only gets updated when a major Windows version update (such as going from Win 11 original release to 22H2) takes place.

But, even in this instance, there is no need to update it unless you are using BitLocker on the OS drive.

Makes sense...I did mine anyways...at least I know that if I decide to encrypt my OS drives, that the RE image is somewhat updated. As for the installation media, is that done when you got to create it and it stalls for a little bit to "download" and install updates?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel i7-7700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime Z-270A
    Memory
    32GB 2666Mhz (Kingston Hyper X Fury)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Nvidia 1050Ti
    Sound Card
    N/A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung C27F390
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Evo 512GB
just thinking out loud, I don't need to as I don't use bitlocker
Nor do I, and I never will, but I still want to understand it and I do not. I had read the gobbly-gook MS instructions in the release notes on the cumulative before this thread was even opened and this thread has provoked even more confusion for me.

Someone please help me get straight on a few points.
1. If one does not use bitlocker, this update does not have to be applied to WinRE...correct? Any recovery media created by one's backup program gets created as usual without this vulnerability being patched in the recovery media.

2. If one does not use bitlocker and and does not apply this update to WinRE and one resets his PC, the PC will reset as usual with no ill results...correct? If this update is NOT part of WinRe, will the resulting live environment have the patch applied?

What troubles me the most is Joe Blow user does not read release notes nor are they a member of this forum. For many their only method of recovery is WinRE. They have bitlocked their drives and sit fat and happy thinking their data is protected. Not! Maybe I'm too simple minded here, but if the folks at MS are smart enough to write these updates, one would think they would also be smart enough to mirror the update into WinRE.

Yeah, I know I am dense.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 +256gb ssd+512 gb usb m.2 sata
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
Nor do I, and I never will, but I still want to understand it and I do not. I had read the gobbly-gook MS instructions in the release notes on the cumulative before this thread was even opened and this thread has provoked even more confusion for me.

Someone please help me get straight on a few points.
1. If one does not use bitlocker, this update does not have to be applied to WinRE...correct? Any recovery media created by one's backup program gets created as usual without this vulnerability being patched in the recovery media.

2. If one does not use bitlocker and and does not apply this update to WinRE and one resets his PC, the PC will reset as usual with no ill results...correct? If this update is NOT part of WinRe, will the resulting live environment have the patch applied?

What troubles me the most is Joe Blow user does not read release notes nor are they a member of this forum. For many their only method of recovery is WinRE. They have bitlocked their drives and sit fat and happy thinking their data is protected. Not! Maybe I'm too simple minded here, but if the folks at MS are smart enough to write these updates, one would think they would also be smart enough to mirror the update into WinRE.

Yeah, I know I am dense.
1 - You are dead on correct. No need for any of this if you are not using BitLocker. The whole issue is that the Recovery Environment can be exploited so that someone with physical access to the machine could potentially gain access to the BitLocker encrypted data.

2 - As for a PC reset, I'm making some assumptions here. I don't think that a reset affects the recovery partition at all. If that's true, then an unpatched recovery partition would remain unpatched, while a patched recovery partition would stay patched. I guess I should test this to be sure. Maybe I'll try that this evening.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    128GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz DRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - CPU graphics only (for now)
    Sound Card
    Realtek (on motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe Gen 4 x 4 SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe Gen 3 x 4 SSD
    2 x 512GB 2.5" SSDs
    2 x 8TB HD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCue 5000X RGB
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cooler + 10 case fans
    Keyboard
    CODE backlit mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Additional options installed:
    WiFi 6E PCIe adapter
    ASUS ThunderboltEX 4 PCIe adapter
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
Maybe someone can shed some light for me. As a test, I mounted a Windows 10 22H2 ISO and ran the DISM commands to grab the WIM's info. Before updating the WIM, the Version show 10.0.19041 and the Service Pack Build 1. After updating the WIM, the Version is still 10.019041 and the Service Pack Build is now 2251. Why is the version 10.0.19041 when I am using a 22H2 ISO? I thought 22H2 build number is 19045 and 2004 is 19041. Would this just be WinPE and the version just does not update with new Windows builds?



The VM used when running this test was a fresh imaged Win 10 22H2 as well. Also getting information from the following site.

beforeupdate.jpg

Afterupdate.jpg
 

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
Maybe someone can shed some light for me. As a test, I mounted a Windows 10 22H2 ISO and ran the DISM commands to grab the WIM's info. Before updating the WIM, the Version show 10.0.19041 and the Service Pack Build 1. After updating the WIM, the Version is still 10.019041 and the Service Pack Build is now 2251. Why is the version 10.0.19041 when I am using a 22H2 ISO? I thought 22H2 build number is 19045 and 2004 is 19041. Would this just be WinPE and the version just does not update with new Windows builds?
I think that is spot on - it is simply that Microsoft don't always update WinRE everytime they release a new build / ISO of Windows
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz
    Memory
    32Gb
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    AVG Internet Security
Useful links for scripts to check if machine has updated WinRE.wim on recovery partition and also to deploy a patched WIM - thought might be useful as script also does check to ensure partition big enough to hold the WIM


 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz
    Memory
    32Gb
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    AVG Internet Security
I thought 22H2 build number is 19045 and 2004 is 19041.
2004 and all versions up to 22H2 share a common set of system files. From 2004 up to 22H2 all new features have been delivered in the cumulative updates, but in a dormant state. Each Feature Update was done by means of installing an Enablement Package that turned on the new features and bumps up the major build number by 1, the 22H2 update taking it to 19045.

The ISO for 19045 contains the 19041 system files, plus the 22H2 Enablement Package which it will install at the same time.

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
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