Is there a way to revert back to old start menu after recent preview update


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james_uk

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Just installed the latest windows 11 preview update.
The last time my start menu changed I have a reg key and also vivetool to take the start menu back to the old style. They don;t seem to be working now.

Has anyone found a way on the latest preview to revert back?

Regards
James
 

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james_uk said:
Has anyone found a way on the latest preview to revert back?
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It's been like 12 hours since the update broke the old Start Menu, so maybe a little time, If it's able to be retrieved at all. From what I have read, it isn't.

Try Start11 v2 or StartAllBack or another 3rd party Start Menu
 

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I have this question too. My ViveTool changes seems to be ignored after the latest update.... i'm afraid the old version is simply not available in the latest builds.
 

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blownwiththeWin said:
I have this question too. My ViveTool changes seems to be ignored after the latest update.... i'm afraid the old version is simply not available in the latest builds.
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The old menu usually won’t load at all now because Microsoft has disabled the underlying code paths, so the result is a non‑functional or ignored Start menu.
 

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I created this tool until Microsoft releases more customization options for the new Start Menu.
It safely toggles the “All Apps / All Programs” section using a Windows policy key — no third‑party tools, no installers.
Includes an optional Start Menu shortcut for instant switching.

GitHub: Windows 11 Start Menu All Apps Toggle
 

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The key problem of the new start is its size (it's 2\3 of my screen). Also, I guess this tool will just hide the all programs section but not actually resize the window, so it will be just a blank space.
 

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    Zotac ZBOX-ECM73070C
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    32 GB
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    500W
It also broke Explorer Patcher. I rolled back to 8457 and the Windows 10 taskbar came back. Microsoft keeps breaking things for no good reason.
 

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I actually expected they introduced customization first instead of removing the old Start.... this was a big surprise to me.
 

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    i7-10700
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    32 GB
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    NVIDIA RTX 3070
    PSU
    500W
There is a new Explorer Patcher version that came out a couple of days ago. Upgrade to that and see if that helps. Another workaround is to remove the recent update, obviously, and then block it so it won't be automatically installed again until we find some new workaround.
 

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The resize choice is almost here. I have it in Beta now.

2513.webp
 

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    Windows 11 25H2
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    Laptop
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    Alienware 18 Area-51
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    Intel Core Ultra 9 275HX (24-Core)
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    Alienware
    Memory
    64GB DDR5 6400MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 and Intel UHD Graphics
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    Onboard, Realtek high-performance Audio chips (ALC3329 & ALC1708))
    Monitor(s) Displays
    300HZ 18-inch QHD 500 nit Comfort View+
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2TB NVMe M.2 PCIe Gen 5 SSD
    Case
    Magnesium Alloy
    Cooling
    Advanced Cryo-Tech Quad-Fan Cooling system & large vapor chamber
    Keyboard
    Cherry MX ultra low profile mechanical keyboard with per key AlienFX RGB lighting
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 4
    Browser
    Vivaldi (main), Firefox, Chrome, Edge
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes Free
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    Microsoft Surface Laptop 7
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    Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite (12 Core) ARM based CPU
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    Microsoft Corp.
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    16GB LPDDR5
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    Qualcomm Adreno X1-85
    Sound Card
    Omnisonic speakers with Dolby Atmos spatial sound
    Monitor(s) Displays
    120 Hz 13.8-inch 600 nit PixelSense Flow touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    2304x1536
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVMe Gen 4 SSD
    Case
    Anodized Aluminum
    Cooling
    Traditional active cooling fan system
    Keyboard
    Mechanical QWERTY, backlit when in use
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 4 and Surface Arc Mouse
    Browser
    Vivaldi (main), Firefox, Chrome, Edge
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes Free
God bless smart people like you.

You gave me the hope... Also nice to see that they separated tips and suggested files, cause disabling them also disables suggestions on taskbar
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 24H2
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Zotac ZBOX-ECM73070C
    CPU
    i7-10700
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA RTX 3070
    PSU
    500W
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