Win Update KB5086672 Windows 11 Out-of-band Update build 26100.8117 (24H2) and 26200.8117 (25H2) - March 31


UPDATE 4/14:


 Microsoft Support:

March 31, 2026 - KB5086672 (OS Builds 26200.8117 and 26100.8117) Out-of-band​

This out-of-band update for Windows 11, version 25H2 and 24H2 (KB5086672) is cumulative and includes updates from previous security and non-security releases.

This update includes the improvements and features that were introduced in the March 26, 2026 non-security preview update (KB5079391), along with a fix for an installation issue that affected some devices attempting to install that update.

Improvements

This out-of-band update contains quality improvements from KB5079473 (released March 10, 2026), KB5085516 (released March 21, 2026), and KB5079391 (released March 26, 2026 - no longer offered). The following summary outlines key issues addressed by this out-of-band update. The bold text within the brackets indicates the item or area of the change.
  • [Setup] Fixed: While installing the March 2026 Windows preview update (KB5079391), some devices running Windows 11, version 25H2 or 24H2, might encounter the following error:

    Some update files are missing or have problems. We'll try to download the update again later. Error code: (0x80073712)
This out-of-band update is offered through Windows Update for devices running Windows 11 that have already installed KB5079473 or a later update. It is also available for manual download from the Microsoft Update Catalog.

Devices that have Get the latest updates as soon as they’re available turned on may see this update offered automatically through Windows Update when it becomes available for their device. If this setting is turned off, you can install the update manually by going to Settings > Windows Update and selecting Download & install.

Note: IT administrators using Microsoft Intune or Windows Autopatch should follow the guidance below for installing the out-of-band update via Windows Update.

AI Components

This release updates the following AI components:

AI Component​
Version​
Image Search1.2603.377.0
Content Extraction1.2603.377.0
Semantic Analysis1.2603.377.0
Settings Model1.2603.377.0

Windows 11 servicing stack update (KB5079387)- 26100.8112

This update makes quality improvements to the servicing stack, which is the component that installs Windows updates. Servicing stack updates (SSU) ensure that you have a robust and reliable servicing stack so that your devices can receive and install Microsoft updates. To learn more about SSUs, see Simplifying on-premises deployment of servicing stack updates.

Known issues in this update

Microsoft is not currently aware of any issues with this update.

How to get this update

Before you install this update

Microsoft combines the latest servicing stack update (SSU) for your operating system with the latest cumulative update (LCU). For general information about SSUs, see Servicing stack updates.

Install this update

To install this update, use one of the following Windows and Microsoft release channels.

Available​
Next Step​
Included
Open Start > Settings > Windows Update. > Advanced options > Optional updates. In the Optional updates available area, you will find the link to download and install available updates.

Check for optional updates
Included
To install this release from the Microsoft Update Catalog, select the option that matches your device architecture (arm64 or x64), and then follow the instructions.

If you want to remove the LCU

Before you decide to remove the LCU, see Understanding the risks: Why you should not uninstall security updates.

To remove the LCU after installing the combined SSU and LCU package, use the DISM/Remove-Package command line option with the LCU package name as the argument. You can find the package name by using this command: DISM /online /get-packages.

Running Windows Update Standalone Installer (wusa.exe) with the /uninstall switch on the combined package will not work because the combined package contains the SSU. You cannot remove the SSU from the system after installation.

File information

For a list of the files provided in this update, download the file information for out-of-band update 5086672.

For a list of the files provided in the servicing stack update, download the file information for the SSU (KB5079387) - version 26100.8112.


 Source:



Check Windows Updates


UUP Dump:

64-bit ISO download:

ARM64 ISO download:

 
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I ignored last weeks update in favour of waiting to see any revisions and then installed this .......................!

As attached , there is now an error in Armoury Crate which had Sonic Studio and Asus Antenna feature working ok for about 2 years until this update .

This error has been advised by AI as probably resulting from this 8117 update , and affecting 790 series boards ( how many who knows )

Realtek is working normally and no compensating direct download for Sonic from M /Store registers .

Reversing the update x 3 reboots is still causing a problem
There were no intervening A Crate updates during this particular Windows update time frame .
Armoury Crate is well-known to be crap and cause problems even if it's left alone, so I wouldn't entirely trust the LLM on this one.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    custom
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Strix X570-E (first gen)
    Memory
    64 GB DDR4-3600 CL18 (2x32 GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Ventus RTX 2060 Super
    Sound Card
    Audient iD4 Mk.I
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2x AOC 24G1 / 1x XP-Pen Artist Pro 16 Gen 2 2.5K
    Screen Resolution
    1080p / 2560x1600
    Hard Drives
    1TB WD/SanDisk SN850X (main) / 2TB Sabrent Rocket 4 / 6TB WD MyBook EE
    PSU
    Corsair RM850X 850W Gold (2019)
    Case
    Lian-Li O11-D
    Cooling
    EKWB EK-AIO 360 RGB
    Keyboard
    wooting Two HE fullsize
    Mouse
    some old mouse from an older PC
    Internet Speed
    Gigabit symmetric (fibre); Bell Fibe
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    ol' reliable Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Other peripherals:

    - Shure SM7B (Mexico)
    - AKG K 240 Studio (calibrated flat)
    - PDP FaceOff wired Switch gamepad
Armoury Crate is well-known to be crap and cause problems even if it's left alone, so I wouldn't entirely trust the LLM on this one.
Yes it was sometime ago , but more reliable in the last 6-9 months . I've had extensive experience of it .
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25 H2 / Windows 3.11 Emulator
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self build Dec 2023
    CPU
    Pentium I9 14900K
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Z790 E Wifi 7
    Memory
    64 GB Corsair Dominator DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire Radeon Pure RX 9060 XT , 16 GB , ARGB Lighting ,.
    Sound Card
    Realtek Codec ALC 4080 internal + Creative Soundblaster X3 External , when former sometimes a problem
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" Toshiba PC / TV , Corsair Xeneon Edge 14.5" screen Res : 2560 x 720
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    4 x Corsair MP 600 Pro 500GB M2 drives ( Main ), + Samsung M2 USB 500GB +Corsair M2 1TB Ext USB+ Hitachi Sata Drive 1TB , 2 x DVD-RW
    PSU
    Corsair 1000 w
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 240 , 5 fans built in system
    Cooling
    Silentium PC Spartan 5 Max
    Keyboard
    Seenda Luminous
    Mouse
    1) Aston Martin DB9 Car , 2) McLaren Yellow P2 car , 3) Seenda Wireless
    Internet Speed
    950 mbps
    Browser
    Edge , Opera , Firefox , Brave, Samsung Browsers .
    Antivirus
    Norton 360 , 10 User
    Other Info
    Asus GT BE 98 Wifi 7 Router
    Pertelian X2040 ,
    Echo Show 8"
    Logitech Z906 5.1 speakers
    Aura Sync LED's Internal case lighting
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Go
    Memory
    8GB
    Hard Drives
    128 GB and 256 GB Micro SD
    Internet Speed
    950 mbps
Armoury Crate is well-known to be crap and cause problems even if it's left alone, so I wouldn't entirely trust the LLM on this one.

It is a lot better and more reliable than it used to be. I reluctantly use it now without any issues except it uses a lot of disk resources. I use it mainly for fan control profiles.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    📷🔈🎧 🪛 DIY Photoshop/Audio/Game/tinker
    CPU
    i9 14900K P/E 5.8/4.5 GHz, cache 5.0 GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Dark Hero
    Memory
    🐏 96GB (2x48) G.skill Ripjaws 6800 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus ROG Strix 4070 Ti OC
    Sound Card
    🔊Bowers & Wilkins 606 S3 speakers; Audiolabs 7000a integrated amp; RSL 10S Mk2 sub; Creative Pebble Pro Minimilist
    Monitor(s) Displays
    🖥️🖥️ Eizo CG2730 ColorEdge, ViewSonic VP2768
    Screen Resolution
    🖥️🖥️ 2560 x 1440p x 2
    Hard Drives
    💾 WDC SN850X 4TB nvme, SN850 1TB nvme, SK-Hynix 2 TB P41 nvme,. Sabrent USB-C DS-SC5B 5-bay docking station: 6TB WDC Black, 6TB Ironwolf Pro; 2x 2TB WDC Black HDD
    PSU
    ⚡️ 850W Seasonic Vertex PX-850 ATX 3.0/PCI-E 5.0
    Case
    Fractal Design North XL Mesh, Black Walnut
    Cooling
    ❄️ EK Nucleus black 360 AIO w/Phanteks T30-120 fans, 2 Noctua NF-A14 Chromax case fan, 1 T30-120 fan cooling memory
    Keyboard
    ⌨️ Keychron Q3 Max TKL with custom GMK Redsuns Red Samuri keycaps, TX Stabs
    Mouse
    🖱️ Logitech G305 wireless gaming
    Internet Speed
    ⬇️ 500 Mb/s ⬆️ 12 Mb/s
    Browser
    🔥🦊 Firefox
    Antivirus
    🦺 Defender, Macrium Reflect X 🏆
    Other Info
    Phangkey Amaterasu V2 Desk Mat
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    💻 Apple 13" Macbook Pro 2020 (m1)
    CPU
    Apple M1
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1600
    Browser
    Firefox
This is a weird update. Since Microsoft became so fond of multiple reboots, I made a DOSKEY macro to suspend Bitlocker until I manually resume it. Previous updates have been good to go once they let me back into Windows, at which point, I would resume protection and be set for another month. (I have automatic updates turned off.) Well, this time around, I found my file server that I had updated and booted back into Windows inaccessible after a couple hours. Remote desktop wasn't working, so I walked over to it and turned its monitor on, and there it was, sitting at the Bitlocker prompt. This meant it either crashed or had been rebooted. Thankfully, it was the latter. I found an event from User32 in the System log, "The process C:\WINDOWS\uus\packages\preview\AMD64\MoUsoCoreWorker.exe (NAS) has initiated the restart of computer NAS on behalf of user NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM for the following reason: Operating System: Service pack (Planned)". Is everyone else seeing this? This has never happened before, and I've been using Windows since 1990.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
The unwanted device added a few updates ago to Settings->Devices (and the older Control Panel -> Devices and Printers) "Service Test Loopback A" seems to be removed
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
I run BitLocker on every single machine that I own. I never suspend BitLocker for Windows updates and have never once been challenged for my key (at least not for updates). There are operations that I perform which would cause Windows to ask for the key and so I suspend protection in those cases, but never for updates.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 25H2 (RTM+)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acemagic
    CPU
    Intel i7-14650HX
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Varies as machine will often be moved to locations with different monitors
    Screen Resolution
    Varies
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB Gen 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    120W Power Brick
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Max RGB Magnetic Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 25H2 (RTM+)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
I run BitLocker on every single machine that I own. I never suspend BitLocker for Windows updates and have never once been challenged for my key (at least not for updates). There are operations that I perform which would cause Windows to ask for the key and so I suspend protection in those cases, but never for updates.
I don't know how that's possible unless you don't use pre-boot authentication. I use a password on the machine I was talking about and TPM plus USB key on my main machine (USB key is an Aegis Secure Key FTR and FTW). I'm not talking about Bitlocker recovery, just normal pre-boot authentication.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
Re Windows updates and why there are multiple reboots sometimes.

Windows 11 updates are installed in multiple phases, and some system files (especially core OS components and drivers) can’t be replaced while Windows is running. As a result, Windows uses one or more reboots to complete different stages of the update—such as staging, applying, and finalizing changes. The exact number of restarts varies depending on the update and the system’s configuration.
Sources: ChatGPT and Microsoft Learn

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 13900K
    Motherboard
    Asus ProArt Z790 Creator WiFi - Bios 3107
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 64gb 5600MT/s DDR5 Dual Channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire NITRO+ AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-X 24GB
    Sound Card
    External DAC: Cambridge Audio DACMagic200M - Headphone Amp: Topping L50
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Panasonic MX950 Mini LED 55" TV 120hz
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 120hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (OS)
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (Files)
    Lexar NZ790 4TB
    LaCie d2 Professional 6TB external - USB 3.1
    Seagate Expansion 16TB external - USB 3.2
    Seagate One Touch 18TB external HD - USB 3.0
    PSU
    Corsair RM1200x Shift
    Case
    Corsair RGB Smart Case 5000x (white)
    Cooling
    Corsair iCue H150i Elite Capellix XT
    Keyboard
    Incase Ergonomic USB (Microsoft clone)
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    Fibre 900/500 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    AMD Radeon Software & Drivers 26.1.1
    Hasleo Backup Suite
    Dashlane password manager
    Kensington Verimark fingerprint reader
    Logitech Brio 4K webcam
    Orico 10-port powered USB 3.0 hub
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Vivobook X1605VA
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i9-13900H
    Motherboard
    Asus X1605VA bios 309
    Memory
    32GB DDR4-3200 Dual channel
    Graphics card(s)
    *Intel Iris Xᵉ Graphics G7
    Sound Card
    Realtek | Intel SST Bluetooth & USB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.0-inch, WUXGA 16:10 aspect ratio, IPS-level Panel
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 60hz
    Hard Drives
    512GB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 3.0 SSD
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Ergo Trackball
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    720p Webcam
    WiFi & USB to ethernet
Re Windows updates and why there are multiple reboots sometimes.

Windows 11 updates are installed in multiple phases, and some system files (especially core OS components and drivers) can’t be replaced while Windows is running. As a result, Windows uses one or more reboots to complete different stages of the update—such as staging, applying, and finalizing changes. The exact number of restarts varies depending on the update and the system’s configuration.

I never had three till just recently.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware 18 Area-51
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 9 275HX (24-Core)
    Motherboard
    Alienware
    Memory
    64GB DDR5 6400MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 and Intel UHD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Onboard, Realtek high-performance Audio chips (ALC3329 & ALC1708))
    Monitor(s) Displays
    300HZ 18-inch QHD 500 nit Comfort View+
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2TB NVMe M.2 PCIe Gen 5 SSD
    Case
    Magnesium Alloy
    Cooling
    Advanced Cryo-Tech Quad-Fan Cooling system & large vapor chamber
    Keyboard
    Cherry MX ultra low profile mechanical keyboard with per key AlienFX RGB lighting
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 4
    Browser
    Vivaldi (main), Firefox, Chrome, Edge
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes Free
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Laptop 7
    CPU
    Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite (12 Core) ARM based CPU
    Motherboard
    Microsoft Corp.
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Qualcomm Adreno X1-85
    Sound Card
    Omnisonic speakers with Dolby Atmos spatial sound
    Monitor(s) Displays
    120 Hz 13.8-inch 600 nit PixelSense Flow touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    2304x1536
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVMe Gen 4 SSD
    Case
    Anodized Aluminum
    Cooling
    Traditional active cooling fan system
    Keyboard
    Mechanical QWERTY, backlit when in use
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 4 and Surface Arc Mouse
    Browser
    Vivaldi (main), Firefox, Chrome, Edge
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes Free
I never had three till just recently.
I've had it a few times lately on both my PC's. Can be a sign there are some under the hood changes In Windows to the kernel and core services.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 13900K
    Motherboard
    Asus ProArt Z790 Creator WiFi - Bios 3107
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 64gb 5600MT/s DDR5 Dual Channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire NITRO+ AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-X 24GB
    Sound Card
    External DAC: Cambridge Audio DACMagic200M - Headphone Amp: Topping L50
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Panasonic MX950 Mini LED 55" TV 120hz
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 120hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (OS)
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (Files)
    Lexar NZ790 4TB
    LaCie d2 Professional 6TB external - USB 3.1
    Seagate Expansion 16TB external - USB 3.2
    Seagate One Touch 18TB external HD - USB 3.0
    PSU
    Corsair RM1200x Shift
    Case
    Corsair RGB Smart Case 5000x (white)
    Cooling
    Corsair iCue H150i Elite Capellix XT
    Keyboard
    Incase Ergonomic USB (Microsoft clone)
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    Fibre 900/500 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    AMD Radeon Software & Drivers 26.1.1
    Hasleo Backup Suite
    Dashlane password manager
    Kensington Verimark fingerprint reader
    Logitech Brio 4K webcam
    Orico 10-port powered USB 3.0 hub
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Vivobook X1605VA
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i9-13900H
    Motherboard
    Asus X1605VA bios 309
    Memory
    32GB DDR4-3200 Dual channel
    Graphics card(s)
    *Intel Iris Xᵉ Graphics G7
    Sound Card
    Realtek | Intel SST Bluetooth & USB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.0-inch, WUXGA 16:10 aspect ratio, IPS-level Panel
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 60hz
    Hard Drives
    512GB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 3.0 SSD
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Ergo Trackball
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    720p Webcam
    WiFi & USB to ethernet
I never had three till just recently.

Did you manually update the Secure Boot CA completely? If not I think the reboots are from Windows taking care of that. I had no multiple reboots on this or the previous updates.

Even if you are not using Secure Boot, Microsoft has to anticipate you might in the future.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    📷🔈🎧 🪛 DIY Photoshop/Audio/Game/tinker
    CPU
    i9 14900K P/E 5.8/4.5 GHz, cache 5.0 GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Dark Hero
    Memory
    🐏 96GB (2x48) G.skill Ripjaws 6800 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus ROG Strix 4070 Ti OC
    Sound Card
    🔊Bowers & Wilkins 606 S3 speakers; Audiolabs 7000a integrated amp; RSL 10S Mk2 sub; Creative Pebble Pro Minimilist
    Monitor(s) Displays
    🖥️🖥️ Eizo CG2730 ColorEdge, ViewSonic VP2768
    Screen Resolution
    🖥️🖥️ 2560 x 1440p x 2
    Hard Drives
    💾 WDC SN850X 4TB nvme, SN850 1TB nvme, SK-Hynix 2 TB P41 nvme,. Sabrent USB-C DS-SC5B 5-bay docking station: 6TB WDC Black, 6TB Ironwolf Pro; 2x 2TB WDC Black HDD
    PSU
    ⚡️ 850W Seasonic Vertex PX-850 ATX 3.0/PCI-E 5.0
    Case
    Fractal Design North XL Mesh, Black Walnut
    Cooling
    ❄️ EK Nucleus black 360 AIO w/Phanteks T30-120 fans, 2 Noctua NF-A14 Chromax case fan, 1 T30-120 fan cooling memory
    Keyboard
    ⌨️ Keychron Q3 Max TKL with custom GMK Redsuns Red Samuri keycaps, TX Stabs
    Mouse
    🖱️ Logitech G305 wireless gaming
    Internet Speed
    ⬇️ 500 Mb/s ⬆️ 12 Mb/s
    Browser
    🔥🦊 Firefox
    Antivirus
    🦺 Defender, Macrium Reflect X 🏆
    Other Info
    Phangkey Amaterasu V2 Desk Mat
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    💻 Apple 13" Macbook Pro 2020 (m1)
    CPU
    Apple M1
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1600
    Browser
    Firefox
It is a lot better and more reliable than it used to be. I reluctantly use it now without any issues except it uses a lot of disk resources. I use it mainly for fan control profiles.
That maybe the case. But it is still bloatware. It is installing stuff, drivers and services for stuff that I don't even have or use. I doesn't give the user any option to select what to install and what not. Things like Armoury Crate Service / Armoury Crate Lite Service v6.4.7.0, Aura Service (Lighting Service) v3.10.04, ROG Live Service v3.4.11.0, ASUS Framework Service v4.2.4.8, ASUS Core SDK v2.01.52. Some driver for WD Black and some RAM from (I think) Kingston. I don't make use of the AURA RGB, Don't have a WD Black and other installed stuff, It always signs into ASUS with SSO (Behaving like they are MS also) to see if there are updates. The only thing that I used to install was the ASUS AI Suite 3.

But the development has stopped. It doesn't show up any more in order to give way for the Armoury Crate. Last version is still v3.03.43 from 09-2025. You can still find it but only if you expand everything on the Driver and Tool page. It can't be installed anymore (CreateProces error) Can't handle with the current Windows 11 installation anymore. Also If you get it installed The coreisolation of Windows 11 section falls each time over that ATKEX proces. Many errors was seen in the eventviewer. ASUS don't want to update their (in their eyes) a dead product. As well as ATKEX.dll and ASIO.dll are signed with an expired ASUS certificate. (Expired in Nov 2024) No wonder Windows 11 doesn't like the product.

I don't need it to control my fans. I use the already onboard PWM capability. When thing are getting hot the fan speed increases. And if you want to adjust it's curvature that you can adapt it inside your BIOS. (With a PRIME motherboard you can) so no external software is needed to control your fans.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro "25H2" Build 26200.8524, Zorin OS Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self built
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-12700KF 12th Gen.
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z690-A, BIOS v4505
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 5600-36 Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    PCIe4.0 Asus NVIDIA RTX3060Ti
    Sound Card
    Onboard; Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    34" LG 34UC79G-B Curved 21:9 144Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1080 (No HDR)
    Hard Drives
    250Gb Samsung 870PRO NVMe (Win 11 Pro)
    1Tb Samsung 980PRO NVMe
    1Tb Samsung 970EVO NVMe
    2Tb Samsung 990PRO NVMe with heatsink.
    4Tb WDC WD40EZRZ Blue SATA (Int.)
    4Tb WDC WD40EZRZ Blue SATA (Int.)
    3Tb WDC WD30EFRZ Red SATA (Int.)
    256Gb Samsung 840PRO SSD (RHEL 9,5)
    256Gb Samsung 850PRO SSD (Zorin OS Pro 18)
    PSU
    Coolermaster 850W V2 Gold with internal 12cm exaust fan
    Case
    Be-Quiet Pure Base 600.
    Cooling
    3x Be-Quiet! 12/14cm "Silent Wings 4" casefans, 1x Arctic Freezer i35 CPU towerblock with fan.
    Keyboard
    Steelseries APEX 7 keyboard.
    Mouse
    Logitech G-502 Hero
    Internet Speed
    1Gb
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    F-Secure
    Other Info
    No Noise system.
    256Gb Kingston Travler USB 3.0 drive.
    64Gb Sandisk USB 3.2 drive. (Ventoy)
    8Gb Philips USB 3.0 drive. (Win. Inst.)
    8Gb Philips USB 3.0 drive. (Rescue disk)
    2Tb WD USB 3.0 Passport drive.
    USB Ext. 500Gb WD SATA drive.
    External USB 3.0 C.A. CD/DVD* burner.
That maybe the case. But it is still bloatware. It is installing stuff, drivers and services for stuff that I don't even have or use. I doesn't give the user any option to select what to install and what not. Things like Armoury Crate Service / Armoury Crate Lite Service v6.4.7.0, Aura Service (Lighting Service) v3.10.04, ROG Live Service v3.4.11.0, ASUS Framework Service v4.2.4.8, ASUS Core SDK v2.01.52. Some driver for WD Black and some RAM from (I think) Kingston. I don't make use of the AURA RGB, Don't have a WD Black and other installed stuff, It always signs into ASUS with SSO (Behaving like they are MS also) to see if there are updates. The only thing that I used to install was the ASUS AI Suite 3.

But the development has stopped. It doesn't show up any more in order to give way for the Armoury Crate. Last version is still v3.03.43 from 09-2025. You can still find it but only if you expand everything on the Driver and Tool page. It can't be installed anymore (CreateProces error) Can't handle with the current Windows 11 installation anymore. Also If you get it installed The coreisolation of Windows 11 section falls each time over that ATKEX proces. Many errors was seen in the eventviewer. ASUS don't want to update their (in their eyes) a dead product. As well as ATKEX.dll and ASIO.dll are signed with an expired ASUS certificate. (Expired in Nov 2024) No wonder Windows 11 doesn't like the product.

I don't need it to control my fans. I use the already onboard PWM capability. When thing are getting hot the fan speed increases. And if you want to adjust it's curvature that you can adapt it inside your BIOS. (With a PRIME motherboard you can) so no external software is needed to control your fans.
So , we dont need the " ASUS Com Service " anymore ??
Its set on automatic start , each reboot ...............safe to switch it off ?? 🛠️
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    i7
    Motherboard
    z97k
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Hard Drives
    3
    Cooling
    air
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    ESET
I don't know how that's possible unless you don't use pre-boot authentication.
Correct, I do not use PBA.

EDIT: Now I understand: Are you saying that you got a PBA screen? I may have misunderstood thinking that you were saying that BitLocker was asking for the recovery key. I had not considered PBA because I never use it, so it simply didn't cross my mind.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 25H2 (RTM+)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acemagic
    CPU
    Intel i7-14650HX
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Varies as machine will often be moved to locations with different monitors
    Screen Resolution
    Varies
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB Gen 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    120W Power Brick
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Max RGB Magnetic Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 25H2 (RTM+)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
So , we dont need the " ASUS Com Service " anymore ??
Its set on automatic start , each reboot ...............safe to switch it off ?? 🛠️
I can say no, but it depends if you need it. If you don't use Armoury Crate or GPU Tweak anymore you can delete it. It's a leftover that many people complain about. AC and GPU Tweak like to install things but after they have been removed this will stay behind. I even installed AC and after de-installment I saw many ASUS stuff lying arround that has no real use. (Like a WD Black, AURA Light, Kingston RAM which I don't even have; I have Corsair etc. Ripped out everything from my system.)

A few weeks back I saw still an ASUS Update service which was not started by a startup apps but by the task scheduler. Ripped that whole ASUS tree from the task scheduler, and deleted the service and the software on disk. (All ASUS dir inside Program Files X) So there is a chance that if you disable this startup item that it keeps coming back because there is also a task inside the task scheduler. I also recommend to use a registry cleaner to get rid of all these leftovers inside the registry. This is reoccurring annoyance. You install a product. But when you uninstall it it doesn't remove everything that is installed. One of the worst company's on the planet is Adobe. Their leftovers inside the registry can be up to some useless 200 references. Windows at startup goes through your whole registry to find out what settings it must use, drivers must load etc. Going through the whole registry takes time. The more useless leftovers there are, the slower will start Windows.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro "25H2" Build 26200.8524, Zorin OS Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self built
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-12700KF 12th Gen.
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z690-A, BIOS v4505
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 5600-36 Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    PCIe4.0 Asus NVIDIA RTX3060Ti
    Sound Card
    Onboard; Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    34" LG 34UC79G-B Curved 21:9 144Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1080 (No HDR)
    Hard Drives
    250Gb Samsung 870PRO NVMe (Win 11 Pro)
    1Tb Samsung 980PRO NVMe
    1Tb Samsung 970EVO NVMe
    2Tb Samsung 990PRO NVMe with heatsink.
    4Tb WDC WD40EZRZ Blue SATA (Int.)
    4Tb WDC WD40EZRZ Blue SATA (Int.)
    3Tb WDC WD30EFRZ Red SATA (Int.)
    256Gb Samsung 840PRO SSD (RHEL 9,5)
    256Gb Samsung 850PRO SSD (Zorin OS Pro 18)
    PSU
    Coolermaster 850W V2 Gold with internal 12cm exaust fan
    Case
    Be-Quiet Pure Base 600.
    Cooling
    3x Be-Quiet! 12/14cm "Silent Wings 4" casefans, 1x Arctic Freezer i35 CPU towerblock with fan.
    Keyboard
    Steelseries APEX 7 keyboard.
    Mouse
    Logitech G-502 Hero
    Internet Speed
    1Gb
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    F-Secure
    Other Info
    No Noise system.
    256Gb Kingston Travler USB 3.0 drive.
    64Gb Sandisk USB 3.2 drive. (Ventoy)
    8Gb Philips USB 3.0 drive. (Win. Inst.)
    8Gb Philips USB 3.0 drive. (Rescue disk)
    2Tb WD USB 3.0 Passport drive.
    USB Ext. 500Gb WD SATA drive.
    External USB 3.0 C.A. CD/DVD* burner.
Thanks ! (y)
Will stop loading it , dont have the crapp it needs also...........:wink:

Also possible to totally remove these ASUS-Com-Service , already switched off..............??
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    i7
    Motherboard
    z97k
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Hard Drives
    3
    Cooling
    air
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    ESET
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System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro (25H2 RP)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer AN515-54
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9300H CPU @ 2.40GHz 2.40 GHz
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650, Intel UHD 630
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer CB272D
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    256GB and 1T SSD
    Internet Speed
    500MB
    Browser
    Edge (Stable)
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro (RP)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Legion 5 16IAX10 - Type 83NX
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 9 275HX (2.70 GHz)
    Memory
    32GB DDR5-5600
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 5060 8GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer CB272D
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 75Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Green SN3000 (2TB)
    Samsung Portable T5 (2TB)
    Keyboard
    Logi MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logi MX Anywhere 3
    Internet Speed
    500MB
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    MS Defender
That maybe the case. But it is still bloatware. It is installing stuff, drivers and services for stuff that I don't even have or use. I doesn't give the user any option to select what to install and what not. Things like Armoury Crate Service / Armoury Crate Lite Service v6.4.7.0, Aura Service (Lighting Service) v3.10.04, ROG Live Service v3.4.11.0, ASUS Framework Service v4.2.4.8, ASUS Core SDK v2.01.52. Some driver for WD Black and some RAM from (I think) Kingston. I don't make use of the AURA RGB, Don't have a WD Black and other installed stuff, It always signs into ASUS with SSO (Behaving like they are MS also) to see if there are updates. The only thing that I used to install was the ASUS AI Suite 3.

But the development has stopped. It doesn't show up any more in order to give way for the Armoury Crate. Last version is still v3.03.43 from 09-2025. You can still find it but only if you expand everything on the Driver and Tool page. It can't be installed anymore (CreateProces error) Can't handle with the current Windows 11 installation anymore. Also If you get it installed The coreisolation of Windows 11 section falls each time over that ATKEX proces. Many errors was seen in the eventviewer. ASUS don't want to update their (in their eyes) a dead product. As well as ATKEX.dll and ASIO.dll are signed with an expired ASUS certificate. (Expired in Nov 2024) No wonder Windows 11 doesn't like the product.

I don't need it to control my fans. I use the already onboard PWM capability. When thing are getting hot the fan speed increases. And if you want to adjust it's curvature that you can adapt it inside your BIOS. (With a PRIME motherboard you can) so no external software is needed to control your fans.
Like it or loathe it , in my case it controls Sonic Studio ( as this is no longer a "stand alone " app) which is quite essential for Realtek internal sound and other features are quite good also ,. I have had long email communications with Asus customer services inc H/O , when Armoury Crate needs revisions or improvements.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25 H2 / Windows 3.11 Emulator
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self build Dec 2023
    CPU
    Pentium I9 14900K
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Z790 E Wifi 7
    Memory
    64 GB Corsair Dominator DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire Radeon Pure RX 9060 XT , 16 GB , ARGB Lighting ,.
    Sound Card
    Realtek Codec ALC 4080 internal + Creative Soundblaster X3 External , when former sometimes a problem
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" Toshiba PC / TV , Corsair Xeneon Edge 14.5" screen Res : 2560 x 720
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    4 x Corsair MP 600 Pro 500GB M2 drives ( Main ), + Samsung M2 USB 500GB +Corsair M2 1TB Ext USB+ Hitachi Sata Drive 1TB , 2 x DVD-RW
    PSU
    Corsair 1000 w
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 240 , 5 fans built in system
    Cooling
    Silentium PC Spartan 5 Max
    Keyboard
    Seenda Luminous
    Mouse
    1) Aston Martin DB9 Car , 2) McLaren Yellow P2 car , 3) Seenda Wireless
    Internet Speed
    950 mbps
    Browser
    Edge , Opera , Firefox , Brave, Samsung Browsers .
    Antivirus
    Norton 360 , 10 User
    Other Info
    Asus GT BE 98 Wifi 7 Router
    Pertelian X2040 ,
    Echo Show 8"
    Logitech Z906 5.1 speakers
    Aura Sync LED's Internal case lighting
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Go
    Memory
    8GB
    Hard Drives
    128 GB and 256 GB Micro SD
    Internet Speed
    950 mbps
barreleye said:
I don't know how that's possible unless you don't use pre-boot authentication.

Correct, I do not use PBA.

EDIT: Now I understand: Are you saying that you got a PBA screen? I may have misunderstood thinking that you were saying that BitLocker was asking for the recovery key. I had not considered PBA because I never use it, so it simply didn't cross my mind.

The answer was in the part of my message you clipped. lol

"I don't know how that's possible unless you don't use pre-boot authentication. I use a password on the machine I was talking about and TPM plus USB key on my main machine (USB key is an Aegis Secure Key FTR and FTW). I'm not talking about Bitlocker recovery, just normal pre-boot authentication."

I've never used Bitlocker without pre-boot authentication, and it has to be suspended for reboots if you want to avoid having to provide it. The multiple-reboot WU has become the norm over the last few years, hence the Bitlocker counter-measures I described, but this update was a first. Like I said, it rebooted AFTER allowing me back into Windows, AFTER I resumed Bitlocker that I had suspended indefinitely with manage-bde to account for the likely multiple reboots, on a system that has automatic updates turned off and never reboots out of the blue for updates. This was INCREDIBLY surprising and annoying. All the explanation I've found so far was that event log entry I copied to my OP, but it's really just evidence of what happened. Is this something that's going to happen going forward and become the new norm, like the "normal" multiple updates before it? Here's my OP again so no one has to go looking for it:

This is a weird update. Since Microsoft became so fond of multiple reboots, I made a DOSKEY macro to suspend Bitlocker until I manually resume it. Previous updates have been good to go once they let me back into Windows, at which point, I would resume protection and be set for another month. (I have automatic updates turned off.) Well, this time around, I found my file server that I had updated and booted back into Windows inaccessible after a couple hours. Remote desktop wasn't working, so I walked over to it and turned its monitor on, and there it was, sitting at the Bitlocker prompt. This meant it either crashed or had been rebooted. Thankfully, it was the latter. I found an event from User32 in the System log, "The process C:\WINDOWS\uus\packages\preview\AMD64\MoUsoCoreWorker.exe (NAS) has initiated the restart of computer NAS on behalf of user NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM for the following reason: Operating System: Service pack (Planned)". Is everyone else seeing this? This has never happened before, and I've been using Windows since 1990.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
I've never used Bitlocker without pre-boot authentication

You've clearly pointed out an area that I am lacking knowledge in. I think I'll setup a test system with PBA and purposely start with a slightly older build so that I can update it and see what happens.

BTW, I got the fact that you had it in your original post. I clipped just a fragment so that you could immediately see that it was you that I was responding to. I missed that detail on my first response but caught it after a re-reading of you post.
 

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  • OS
    Win11 Pro 25H2 (RTM+)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acemagic
    CPU
    Intel i7-14650HX
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Varies as machine will often be moved to locations with different monitors
    Screen Resolution
    Varies
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB Gen 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    120W Power Brick
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Max RGB Magnetic Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 25H2 (RTM+)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor

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