Let's install Windows 11 on incompatible hardware


Which incompatible hardware? If you just boot with Windows 11 USB and attempt to install Windows 11 on an unsupported computer, you get an error that the computer doesn't meet the requirements. You must either boot with Windows 11 USB and change some keys in Registry before proceeding, or boot with a hybrid Windows 10/11 USB that bypass compatibility check. See previous posts in this thread for details. To upgrade from Windows 10 you have to run Windows 11 Setup offline from the ISO, not from Windows Update, and replace a specific file in cache before proceeding. I have seen cases that directly upgrade from Windows 10 wasn't possible due to some incompatibility (for example my 2nd system), but clean installation (format) was possible. Post more information to guide you.
It's a joke :-) The hardware is the hammer!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
I upgraded my typewriter to Windows 11. Now I can talk and type!

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 64-bit (build 22631.3374)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v23H2 (build 22631.3374)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
Now upgrade an abacus to Windows 11. ;-)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Wordsworth 10000
    CPU
    Core i7 10700K 3.8 GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix Z590-A Gaming Wifi
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64GB 3000MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Radeon RX480 Strix 8GB
    Sound Card
    Asus Xonar DSX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP 2709m
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro M.2 SSD 500GB; Samsung 980 M.2 SSD 1TB
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower Grand Platinum 850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Meshify 2
    Cooling
    CPU-Noctua NH D15 Chromax, GPU-Stock, Case-Noctua Chromax 3x140
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Natural Ergo 4000
    Mouse
    HP X500
    Internet Speed
    Cable
    Browser
    Vivaldi, MS Edge
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes 4.4.3, Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Klipsch Promedia 5.1 THX
    Asus External Blu-Ray 16D1X-USB 3.0
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Wordsworth 6000
    CPU
    Core i7 6700K 4.0 GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Z170 Pro
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 32GB 3000MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Asus GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
    Sound Card
    Asus Xonar SE
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP X24ih
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel 760p M.2 SSD 500GB; Intel 540 SSD 480GB; Intel 335 SSD 240GB
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 750W
    Case
    Lian Li PC-B70
    Cooling
    CPU- Noctua NH-D15; GPU-Stock; Case-Noctua Chromax 2x140, 2x120
    Mouse
    Microsoft Wireless Comfort 5050
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Wireless Comfort 5050
    Internet Speed
    Cable
    Browser
    Vivaldi, MS Edge
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes 4.4.3, Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP bd 340
    HP bd 240
    Denon DRA-800H
    Klipsch RP-600M
    Klipsch R-100SW (2)

    System 3 Specs
    Core i7 10700K 3.8 GHz
    Asus ROG Strix Z590-A Gaming Wifi
    Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 32GB 3200MHz
    Asus Radeon RX560 Dual 4GB
    Xonar SE
    Samsung 980 Pro M.2 SSD 1 TB (2)
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 850W
    Fractal Design Meshify 2
    CPU-Noctua NH D15 Chromax, GPU-Stock, Case-Noctua Chromax 2x140,1x120
And then I would talk and solve arithmetic problems.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 64-bit (build 22631.3374)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v23H2 (build 22631.3374)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
Hi everyone,

I have a spare computer with a 3770k cpu, I am planning to get a motherboard for this processor. I saw a Z77 motherboard from Gigabyte that has a TPM header, UEFI, and secure boot. I know my CPU doesn't have the ftpm. My question is, will I be able to install Win 11 without using any bypass for incompatible hardware since I will be installing the add-on tpm on my motherboard? Or does Win 11 really requires both the CPU and motherboard to have TPMs? Thanks and looking for your input about this post.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    10
The CPU is 3rd generation Intel Core-i7, non-compliant. You should have at least 8th generation Intel CPU and TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot to install Windows 11 without any hacking. If you already have a socket 1155 motherboard, don't waste your money to buy a new one with TPM 2.0 Just hack setup. If you see my 2nd system specs, I run Windows 11 on a 3rd generation Intel Core-i7 3770 without any issue. So far I have installed all updates, including optional feature updates without any more compatibility check. I don't even have an UEFI installation. I did a Legacy BIOS installation with Secure Boot disabled and without TPM 2.0 No issues at all so far. Don't hesitate, go on.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 64-bit (build 22631.3374)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v23H2 (build 22631.3374)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
The CPU is 3rd generation Intel Core-i7, non-compliant. You should have at least 8th generation Intel CPU and TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot to install Windows 11 without any hacking. If you already have a socket 1155 motherboard, don't waste your money to buy a new one with TPM 2.0 Just hack setup. If you see my 2nd system specs, I run Windows 11 on a 3rd generation Intel Core-i7 3770 without any issue. So far I have installed all updates, including optional feature updates without any more compatibility check. I don't even have an UEFI installation. I did a Legacy BIOS installation with Secure Boot disabled and without TPM 2.0 No issues at all so far. Don't hesitate, go on.
I agree - don't be concerned - I'm running the Beta on an old Lenovo T61 ( in fact it's still IBM! ) - all good just had to change the HDD to SDD ... no rounded corners but I couldn't be bothered to look for graphics drivers - it works OK.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 22631.2861
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy TE01-1xxx
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz
    Motherboard
    16.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1463MHz (21-21-21-47)
    Memory
    16384 MBytes
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Monitor 1 - Acer 27" Monitor 2 - Acer 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WDC PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-512G-1006 (SSD)
    Seagate ST1000DM003-1SB102
    Seagate BUP Slim SCSI Disk Device (SSD)
    PSU
    HP
    Case
    HP
    Cooling
    Standard
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave K350
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Internet Speed
    500 mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's all Folks!
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 (10th gen) 10700
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Built-in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 27" & Samsung 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x
    Hard Drives
    SSD (512 GB)
    HDD (1 TB)
    Seagate
    PSU
    Intel i7 10th Generation
    Case
    HP
    Cooling
    HP/Intel?
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave K350
    Internet Speed
    50 mbps
    Browser
    Firefox 90.2
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Headphone/Microphone Combo
    SuperSpeed USB Type-A (4 on front)
    HP 3-in-One Card Readr
    SuperSpeed USB Type-C
    DVD Writer

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro (Insider Beta channel)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer AN515-54
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9300H CPU @ 2.40GHz 2.40 GHz
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650, Intel UHD 630
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer CB272D
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    256GB and 1T SSD
    Keyboard
    Logitech K375S
    Mouse
    Logitech M510
    Internet Speed
    250MB
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro (Insider Canary Channel, unsupported)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell E6430
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3540M CPU @ 3.00GHz 3.00 GHz (non-compliant)
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 4000, NVIDIA NVS 5200M
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Thanks all, you guys saved me from getting an old mobo. Thanks again. Will definitely try the hack set up when I get the time.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    10
You can just burn a usb using Rufus, which removes the tpm and secure boot requirements :). So you just download the Windows 11 ISO, burn it to usb with the correct version of Rufus (selecting the options to bypass tpm and secure boot). Then just install from USB as you would with Windows 10. Apparently it can now bypass the requirements for in place upgrades as well.


Latest version is here. As I discovered recently, you have to burn and select "next" or "finish" or whatever, before you reach the dialogue that gives the option to tick to remove TPM and secure boot. Explains (vaguely) further down this page - about the "separate dialogue" - it's not immediately visible as it used to be in 3.16 beta.

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
Windows 11 work better than 10. I have a Fujitsu Stylistic Q702 hybrid laptop/tablet running Windows 10 and a month ago upgraded to Windows 11. No issues so far. This is usually connected to the TV via HDMI to watch Netflix and other online videos. I have a wireless mouse to control it and use the on-screen keyboard to type.Today I wanted to do some work so I decided to disconnect it from the TV and use it on a desk. But the screen (13.3") was to small and wanted to connect to the TV wirelessly via Miracast. While in Windows 10 it connected after several attempts and hardly worked, in Windows 11 it connected with the first attempt and had no problems apart from some lag. I am not sure if this is because of a better driver or because Windows 11 handle Miracast better, but it is a case where Windows 11 works better than 10. I just wanted to share.

So backup your Windows 10 installation and upgrade to Windows 11. Don't hesitate.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 64-bit (build 22631.3374)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v23H2 (build 22631.3374)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
The Windows 11 Insiders updates are coming at a breakneck speed these days. Today my incompatible Laptop got updated to Windows 11 Home Version 22H2 (10.0.22622.450)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home Version 22H2 (10.0.22623.746)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    American Megatrends Inc./VivoBook_ASUSLaptop X510QA_X510QA
    CPU
    AMD A12-9720P RADEON R7, 12 COMPUTE CORES 4C+8G
    Motherboard
    ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X510QA
    Memory
    7632 MB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon R7 Graphics
    Sound Card
    Speakers Synaptics Smart-Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1x; Generic PnP Monitor
    Hard Drives
    SSD 500GB (Partitions, OS C:\- 146GB | Backup D\- 330GB)
    2 SSDs 250G and 1 SSD 1T Removable Drives
    Cooling
    Not Available
    Mouse
    2 Button Wheel Mouse Present
    Internet Speed
    40 Mbps
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
You can just burn a usb using Rufus, which removes the tpm and secure boot requirements :). So you just download the Windows 11 ISO, burn it to usb with the correct version of Rufus (selecting the options to bypass tpm and secure boot). Then just install from USB as you would with Windows 10. Apparently it can now bypass the requirements for in place upgrades as well.


Latest version is here. As I discovered recently, you have to burn and select "next" or "finish" or whatever, before you reach the dialogue that gives the option to tick to remove TPM and secure boot. Explains (vaguely) further down this page - about the "separate dialogue" - it's not immediately visible as it used to be in 3.16 beta.


newer versions of Rufus like the newly released Rufus 3.20 final, have those TPM/secure boot removal options on a "separate" dialog box that is presented after clicking on the Start button in the Rufus app.

gonna give Win11 another chance with the 22H2 (22621.xxx) preview builds after I stopped using Win11 several months ago on some of my old non-uefi based desktop & laptop PCs (I had Win11 21H2 build 22000.593 [late March 2022 CU] but scrubbed Win11 off those old pcs)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 10 ltsc
gonna give Win11 another chance with the 22H2 (22621.xxx) preview builds after I stopped using Win11 several months ago on some of my old non-uefi based desktop & laptop PCs (I had Win11 21H2 build 22000.593 [late March 2022 CU] but scrubbed Win11 off those old pcs)

a follow up on this - a few days ago I did get a chance to clean install Win11 22H2 build 22621.1 then updated it to build 22621.382 on an old Dell 2007 laptop with a mobile intel core 2 t7600 cpu with 4Gb of RAM (and on a Seagate 320Gb laptop SATA HDD) and it looks promising. 22H2 feels more than a minor improvement over 21H2 (build 22000.x) - will continue to test 22H2 for several months.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 10 ltsc
Hi folks
By Far the easiest way on "reasonably" non compliant hardware is to install on a VM and then convert to real using the method I've posted.

It's not too complex.

Here's the main quick abbreviated spec of the "Non compatible" 7 years old laptop I'm using - it can boot both BIOS and UEFI but does have a TPM.

Screenshot_20220824_090601.png

I created several Windows 11 builds as VM's and then restored to "Real" on an external USB for a "WintoGo" set -- works perfectly. Trick is in the VM config to "Poodlefake" the Virtual CPU topography to something supported and enable an emulated TPM (on Linux swtpm + swtpm-tools, and install ovmf for sec boot / efi boot in the VM.

If using KVM/QEMU simply unclick in the CPU topography host pass thru and select HYPERVISOR DEFAULT from the drop down -- then it all works !!!. The virtual video driver (spice) is supported as well as an emulated TPM. I'm sure HYPER-V on a Windows host can do the same trick if you can get W10 to run on your hardware -- otherwise create the VM on any other available machine you might have and restore to the "Non compliant one". !!!

Here's the latest insider build (beta) running on that laptop -- no probs !!

Screenshot_20220824_092056.png





Cheers
jimbo
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
No offense, Jimbo, but that's the easiest way? :-)

How about this:

Start setup as normal by booting from your installation media. At the first static screen, press SHIFT + F10 to open a command prompt. Run this command:

reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassTPMCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f

Follow up with 4 more commands as shown below:

reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassSecureBootCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassRAMCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassStorageCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassCPUCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f

TIP: Since these commands are all identical except for the text in the middle of the command, just hit the up arrow after running the first command, then change that string. Also, you may not need to run all of these commands, but it won't hurt to do so. For example, if the only requirement you don't meet is the TPM, just run the first command.

That's all! Close the command prompt and continue installation in exactly the same way you would normally.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    128GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz DRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - CPU graphics only (for now)
    Sound Card
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No offense, Jimbo, but that's the easiest way? :-)

How about this:

Start setup as normal by booting from your installation media. At the first static screen, press SHIFT + F10 to open a command prompt. Run this command:

reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassTPMCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f

Follow up with 4 more commands as shown below:

reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassSecureBootCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassRAMCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassStorageCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassCPUCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f

TIP: Since these commands are all identical except for the text in the middle of the command, just hit the up arrow after running the first command, then change that string. Also, you may not need to run all of these commands, but it won't hurt to do so. For example, if the only requirement you don't meet is the TPM, just run the first command.

That's all! Close the command prompt and continue installation in exactly the same way you would normally.
The trouble with those is that they might work for one or two specific releases but they can't be guaranteed to work after any new release. In any case running that type of command line from the install medium can lead to all sorts of errors. Since I like to test a new build with a VM first it suits me fine and taking and restoring a macrium dump doesn't wreck a system when the install for whatever reason fails. !!! Since if a VM won't install it's pointless even thinking about installing on a Real machine. !!

Cheers
jimbo
 

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Jimbo, those are MICROSOFT registry entries. I highly doubt that they will suddenly pull those any time soon.

I could worry about a million things not working. How do I know that my WiFi adapter will work in future releases? How do I know if image creation tool will finally get pulled? How do I know if any particular Windows Store app will still be available a year from now? There are about a million things I could worry about not working in the future. I'm not going to worry about that until it actually happens.

Also, it will lead to NO ERRORS - GUARANTEED. Again, this is Microsoft supported, although it does not guarantee that the hardware will necessarily work. But if that is the case, no other workaround will work any better.

But you do you!

For now, that's such a simple solution, supplied and supported by Microsoft!
 

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Jimbo, those are MICROSOFT registry entries. I highly doubt that they will suddenly pull those any time soon.

I could worry about a million things not working. How do I know that my WiFi adapter will work in future releases? How do I know if image creation tool will finally get pulled? How do I know if any particular Windows Store app will still be available a year from now? There are about a million things I could worry about not working in the future. I'm not going to worry about that until it actually happens.

Also, it will lead to NO ERRORS - GUARANTEED. Again, this is Microsoft supported, although it does not guarantee that the hardware will necessarily work. But if that is the case, no other workaround will work any better.

But you do you!

For now, that's such a simple solution, supplied and supported by Microsoft!
However this method won't usually guarantee Activation --with a VM so long as you copy the GUUID the build will stay activated on almost any kit you care to name.

Pros and cons to all methods -- there's no "One size fits all" approach really -- and it's not about pulling the registry keys - sometimes they change -- I've installed quite a few versions of Windows Server 2016, 2019, and 2022 and often the documentation on making configuration changes refers to registry keys that don't exist any more or have been "renamed" etc.

With all these things use the method that works best for you -- knowledge IMO is never wasted so if one way doesn't work it's good to know there are other solutions available.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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