Microsoft Account and internet now mandatory to set up Windows 11 22H2 Insider builds


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@Wolfzz, it's been like that for a while now with the Insider Pro builds, and has always been that way for 11 Home since the initial RTM launch last year.

There are workarounds....
 

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I new about the Home edition and I heard they were talking about doing the same to the Pro edition, didn't think they would actually do it, as I have NO need for a Microsoft Account as I don't need or use any of their Bloatware Apps and with more Telemetry. I will look at the workarounds.
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Correct. You can workaround this as detailed in the clean install tutorial below. :)

 

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And those who have Mediatek network cards for example, whose lan driver must be installed manually after installation, what to do? (n)
 

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I have NO need for a Microsoft Account as I don't need or use any of their Bloatware Apps and with more Telemetry. I will look at the workarounds.
You'll only need the workarounds if you want to do a clean install. If you already have Windows 10 of 11 with just a local account then an in-place upgrade does not insist on switching it to a MS account.
 

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It makes sense for Insider's Preview builds so Microsoft can confirm you are a registered Insider and not just using the Preview version without feedback. If you do want to use a local account instead, hopefully the same workarounds that work for the release version for Windows 11 Home still work here. Last time I checked, you press SHIFT+F10 to open a command prompt and run the command taskmgr to open Task Manager. Then click on More details, go to Details tab, find "oobe network" or similar. End task. Close Task Manager, close command prompt and you should be presented with the option to create a local account.
 

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Hi there
Installing via dism /Apply-Image also works (clean installs) .

If you fiddle around with the install-wim using something like a Winpe bootable USB or Macrium stand alone recovery with a command line (create the PE rather than the RE version) you can then also "inject" stuff into the WIM for customised and unattended install. E,G instead of having to install Ms Office again etc.

Remember this is a more technical board so although dism wouldn't be used normally by "bog standard" users most people on these Forums should be able to handle that method of install.

I'm not keen on registry hacks, renaming .dll's 3rd party "get arounds" etc etc Just uismg standard Ms commands works best for me.

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Last time I checked, you press SHIFT+F10 to open a command prompt and run the command taskmgr to open Task Manager. Then click on More details, go to Details tab, find "oobe network" or similar. End task.
That should still work, as would running the command oobe\bypassnro from that command prompt.

 

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My workaround is easier than messing with Dism, yours seem even easier. Thanks for sharing.
 

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Microsoft already removed two different workarounds so it's only a matter of time when they remove the oobebypassnro workaround.
 

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Microsoft already removed two different workarounds so it's only a matter of time when they remove the oobebypassnro workaround.
I do not think they will entirely remove that one - it was introduced for corporate users who complained they had requirements for pcs e.g. in labs to run without connecting to internet.
 

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Microsoft already removed two different workarounds so it's only a matter of time when they remove the oobebypassnro workaround.
I do not think they will entirely remove that one - it was introduced for corporate users who complained they had requirements for pcs e.g. in labs to run without connecting to internet.
Even if they did, NavyLCDR's post has documented the registry changes that script makes, they should continue to work when applied manually.
 

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Also the military wants PCs isolated from the internet for security reasons. There must be a way to bypass creating a Microsoft account and just create a local one.

I just though of another possibility. Why not bypass OOBE (Out Of the Box Experience), the initial configuration and just run the computer in Audit Mode? Pressing CTRL+SHIFT+F3 allows you to use the computer temporarily with the built-in Administrator account. Once on the desktop you can install drivers, applications and let the final user create the first account. Guess what! You can even create a local user! So you create a local user, then restart. Hopefully you won't be asked to create an account, since there is already one, haven't tested though. Next time I install Windows 11 Home, I will test it and report back.
 

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    400/40 Mbps via RouterOS (05/21) + TCP Optimizer
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    None
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    Headphones: Sennheiser RS170 (09/10)

spapakons

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Not all devices support passwordless access. To use fingerprint you need a fingerprint reader. For face recognition you need a webcam. Using a pin, usually 4 numbers, is less secure than using a standard password. So let's just ignore this nonsense for now. Until it materialize there will be at least a year.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 21H2 64-bit (build 22000.282)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    This is my test laptop, not fully updated yet. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v21H2 (build 22000.675)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Asus GT620-1GD3 (nVidia GeForce GT 620 1GB DDR3)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 2.3 graphics drivers, WEI score 5.1

ThrashZone

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Hi,
Pin number was always a stupid thing to suggest
Mostly because it was just another thing to remember for people that can't remember a password

Besides the finger print scanner and webcam needed fingers can also be altered from paper cuts or even calluses I know some touchpads don't like some of my fingers
Webcams
Beard/ no bread/ just woke up/ crazy hair/ no hair/ drunk hungover face then you get into makeup for the ladies that throw on a couple coats before they go anywhere :lmao:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Linux-Mint-Cinnamon-20.2 Win-7-10-11Pro's
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    asus x3
    CPU
    10900k & 9940x & 5930k
    Motherboard
    z490-Apex & x299-Apex & x99-Sabertooth
    Memory
    Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb & 3200c14 4x8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Titan Xp & 1080ti FTW3 & evga 980ti gaming
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek x3
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
    Screen Resolution
    1920-1080 not sure what the t.v is besides 43" class scales from 1920-1080 perfectly
    Hard Drives
    To many to list
    PSU
    1000p2 & 1200p2 & 850p2
    Case
    D450 x2 & 1 Test bench in cherry Entertainment center
    Cooling
    Custom water loops x3 with 2x mora 360mm rads only 980ti gaming air cooled
    Keyboard
    G710+x3
    Mouse
    Redragon x3
    Internet Speed
    xfinity gigabyte
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    mbam pro

spapakons

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788
Location
Athens
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Windows 11 Pro 21H2 64-bit (build 22000.282)
The ladies would require a complete make up just to use the computer :)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 21H2 64-bit (build 22000.282)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    This is my test laptop, not fully updated yet. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v21H2 (build 22000.675)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Asus GT620-1GD3 (nVidia GeForce GT 620 1GB DDR3)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 2.3 graphics drivers, WEI score 5.1
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