My mice are driving me crazy...again.

Fun fact: The ancient Greek word for mouse is μυς pronounced mus (compare with moose), but modern Greek pronunciation is mees (compare with meece). Plural is μύες with modern Greek pronunciation mee-ehs (compare to meeces or mice).

PS: We use the ancient word to refer to muscle/muscles. The modern word is pontiki and pontikia for plural, hence the common mistake "mouses" from some Greek and others. We forget it is irregular in English unlike our own language and add s for plural.

That sigma will get you every time!

glasskuter said:

You and @hsehestedt are thinking alike and it is good thinking as is @kelper idea of a live Linux distro. I'll try tonight. I knew if I asked I would get good answers. I've battled it so long I've become brain dead.
I did poke around in bios, but settings are pretty much standard for an OEM machine. I don't think I had changed anything in bios since it was new (except to turn secure boot off)but I set it to default anyway but no change in scroll.
This thing has been touchy ever since i got it.

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Hey, mama gk, any progress on this? Took me a minute to find the last time you had posted...

Tsk, tsk. We are not talking about Linux on a Windows forum. Sacrilege! The punishment is to format and do a clean installation and reinstall all your applications from start without using a backup!

@johnlgalt Mama GK has been mostly out of commission for several days with a bronchiectasis flare. I haven't been able to be at my desk except for short periods at a time and meds have made my brain fuzzy. I didn't want to tackle this until I can give it my undivided attention. Should be able to "git 'er done" in a day or two.

Totally understand, and get to feeling better soon!

Sorry you've been dinged with notifications of posts that were completely unrelated to your issue all this time.

spapakons said:

Tsk, tsk. We are not talking about Linux on a Windows forum. Sacrilege! The punishment is to format and do a clean installation and reinstall all your applications from start without using a backup!

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lol I talk about Linux on Windows forums all the time. I'm sure the purists find it annoying, but at some point these kids need to learn to get along. Microsoft is the Linux Foundation's biggest contributor. Backups are a waste of time. Make drive images and keep a file history.

I have installed Ubuntu in virtual machine along with some applications for experimenting, but because I prefer the much greater application compatibility of Windows I would not use it as my everyday OS. Being much less user friendly than Windows doesn't help matters.

spapakons said:

I have installed Ubuntu in virtual machine along with some applications for experimenting, but because I prefer the much greater application compatibility of Windows I would not use it as my everyday OS. Being much less user friendly than Windows doesn't help matters.

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Once again it boils back to user preference. I'm pretty much in the same boat when it comes to the user friendly experience. After a time one gets weary of fighting in Terminal just to get an application to work. Wine is definitely not the answer for everything and there's a good deal of Windows based software I enjoy using. I would like to get back into using Linux again at some point but I have so many pokers in the fire as it is I'm going to have to leave that one for next winter.

@johnlgalt
Well, I finally solved the vermin mystery and to say I’m unhappy with myself is putting it mildly. I feel like an idiot for not solving it sooner but an even bigger idiot for not remembering what should have been a red flag of what broke it in the first place. It proves I’ve lost some of the edge I once had. Once upon a time I didn't forget stuff.
This was all done in bits and pieces over the last week.

Booted into a Linux live distro and scrolling worked fine.

Using my old m.2 to test with, I restored my last image of 21H2 made last November. Scrolling worked. At that time I used XMouse button control to control my mouse button actions and it had worked correctly for me for years.

I then restored the first image I made of 22H2 last December, scrolling still worked, but when I restored an image of 22H2 from January, it didn’t work. I was sick of dealing with it so restored the December image again and set about getting a year’s worth of Windows & apps updated, and tweaks for the last year reapplied. Once I did, I made an image which I restored to my new working m.2. OK, I’m back in business.

This morning I had to work on my husband’s computer. Under all the piles of crap he keeps on his desk was an 8 button ergonomic monstrosity given to me last Christmas that I absolutely hated, as did he. That’s when a light bulb finally came on.

I used that horrible mouse for one day in January. I had uninstalled XMouse and programmed that mouse from hell buttons using Logitech’s software. When I shucked the mouse, uninstalled the Logitech software, and went back to my old mouse, I reinstalled XMouse and restored my old XMouse profile. The 2 pieces of control software were never installed both at the same time….I thought…. because when I did a clean boot only XMouse showed up in startup folder.

Now at this point, any rational person would have left it alone since everything was finally working, but it was driving me nuts to know the WHY of what caused it and why setting scroll lock would make it work. I was on a quest and am not always sane when I am questing. I become obsessed.

I've worked most of the day trying to figure this out.. I re-installed the old m.2 again, restored the January image to it again, and set about searching. I found a lot of registry entries relating to Logitech as well as remnants in appdata and programdata, but not in program files, which indicates to me the software did not cleanly uninstall. I usually use Revo, but I must not have in this case or all this stuff would not have been left behind. Though I can't be certain I am assuming this to be the cause of my scroll problem. I'm telling myself that anyway so if you think differently, please don't tell me. Leave me to my delusions.

The only thing I know to be 100% true is this entire ordeal has whipped my butt.

Notwithstanding all of which, you got it sorted out, congratulations.

@glasskuter No question about it, you have way too much fun with your computers!

Ah ha! Revo to the rescue!

Man, I love that software.

:::sigh::: I remember the days when Logitech acted legit and behaved themselves. Today, they're such a sell out.

TraderGary said:

you have way too much fun

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Fun? FUN??? #**#%#*

Ain't no smilies here. I'm too old for this

LMFAO! Mama G gets it!

I mean, let's be fair - anyone who does any sort of computer maintenance themselves, no matter how long they've been doing it or how much experience they have, has done something just like this at one point or another in their lives.

It's definitely one of those really niche things, though, that only careful observation would have given, so kudos to you for finding it. Never once would I have thought about leftover Logi-bits being an issue.

Guess Sherlock was right:

When you've eliminated all other possibilities, ....

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johnlgalt said:

LMFAO! Mama G gets it!

I mean, let's be fair - anyone who does any sort of computer maintenance themselves, no matter how long they've been doing it or how much experience they have, has done something just like this at one point or another in their lives.

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The joys of modern technology!