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Scannerman said:

ntil recently my ISP would NOT provide me service unless I used one of their modems.

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Yeah a comcast rep once told me that. They love to lie. I am assuming that is what happened there.

Scannerman said:

He also frowned at all my switches and told me that I was only allowed to have one.

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Yeah that doesn't seem like something they can control. It's your equipment. You have every right to use the service line you pay for how you see fit. You pay for the plan and speeds. That is it.

I have the following, and that is just in the garage.
Then a 24 port switch in my office, 4 port in my sons office, 4 port under a cabinet in the main bedroom.
The wall outlets in every room are between 1, 2 and 4 ports.

I’d like to see them try restricting that.

Yeah I mean once the line is in your house, you shouldn't ever need your isp to come inside. You can do it all yourself.

andrew129260 said:

Yeah I mean once the line is in your house, you shouldn't ever need your isp to come inside. You can do it all yourself.

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Exactly.

But I’ve had techs come in, the ISP knows what I have because of troubleshooting. Nobody has ever said a word about it. Obviously differences between Canada & Australia

I think there is a limit to how many clients a router will support?

Netgear home routers can support 32 devices on the 2.4GHz and 32 on the 5GHz.

But you can use a router-behind-router setup to double this (I think).

kelper said:

I think there is a limit to how many clients a router will support?

Netgear home routers can support 32 devices on the 2.4GHz and 32 on the 5GHz.

But you can use a router-behind-router setup to double this (I think).

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I have a NetGear Orbi RBR840 Mesh router with 2 satellites.
2.4 GHz supports 127 devices.
5 GHz supports 127 devices.

At this moment I have 36 active devices on my system.
I've had more than 52 devices on my system with holiday guests.
My current speed is 943.27 Mbps.

My Asus Mesh Router ASUS DSL-AX82U apparently supports up to 250 devices, I have another ASUS in the office in mesh node mode (my old Asus RT-AC68U, why throw it away?)
I’ve had parties here, WiFi guest password on the wall, I’d assume everyone connected at once, most people text and party these days. Boring people. Their kids in two offices playing lan games, some BYO laptops and Xbox etc all up over 50 people, sweet as. I’m on the same as Gary attainable 950 Mbps

I have a new theory. When I connected my new router, the ISP 'pushed' the old SSID and password to it. This could be helpful for customer support or if a technician visited. He could then guide the customer how to connect to the new wifi. The ISP could surely send a script to the router's NVRAM?

dacrone said:

uhh what? They can tell you how many switches you can have in Canada?!

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antspants said:

I have 2 x 24 port switches and two 4 port switches. Plus an 18 port network box in the garage that is plugged into the Fibre router and feeds Ethernet cables through the house.
I don’t get how they can dictate that? You have 2, 3 or 4 ports on your router, after the connection leaves your router, isn’t it not their concern? How are they to know or care how you split your Ethernet? If anything it would be detrimental to your incoming (which it probably isn’t) it isn’t pulling twice, 3 or 4 times your connection. Crazy

Def get the Fibre, Scannerman

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I think they can tell me what they like but can do precious little about it apart from refusing service. I learned that they lost 189 customers after fiber made it to town so I don't think they're too eager to refuse my business. There is definitely some animosity harboured toward the new kid in town. The reason I'm reluctant to switch is because I get unlimited calling anywhere in North America for $30 CA and there are no data caps. I'm old fashioned. I like old protocols that I can understand and I like my phone to stay as analog as reasonably possible. I actually use a landline and a desk phone. The fellow who told me I should only be using one switch likely told me this because he was trying to solve a router problem and wanted to keep things simple. I simply shrugged and informed him that I don't do WiFi and this is the only way I can realistically run all my devices on all three floors without it. I further explained that only one switch is managed and runs my POE while the others direct signal to the other floors in the house. He had no response to this but he seemed a bit eager to get out of the house. Frankly, despite his grounding my cable to 'spare me' the trouble of reconnecting my surge protection I was happy to see him leave.

My net speed is a bit better now but I have still never seen 1Gbps on the down with this ISP. I fully concur with the wording of "up to" so I'm not overwhelmingly disappointed. @antspants I know for a fact I'm not using all my bandwidth with these switches. The real workload is done off the managed switch and to the best of my knowledge it hasn't throttled on me (apart from the exception of a "faulty" router). The PCs on the other floors are mostly used for web searches and social media. The girls like to access the reading room PC for instructional videos as they have many hobbies. I run a cheap Acer on a 32" monitor in my bedroom with a remote control unit. I DON'T do TV (although I pay for the subscription as my internet is cheaper with one). They should be happy with that.

Admittedly, my basement looks like a hacker's H.Q. with all six desks arranged in a [ configuration but what can one expect for a family of geeks? The real work gets done downstairs. I run about a dozen units from my basement — not always all at once, but I do use a KVM. And no, I'm not mining. lol Every time the cable company sends someone over I CRINGE because I find myself explaining that it's not what it seems. The girls also have the occasional LAN party and the 12 year old runs her own Minecraft server. Me, I just build computers... Okay, maybe a bit more than that. One might say that I add a little extra definition to the term "power user".

Just took this screen shot. Hardly 1Gbps but close enough for the girls I go out with.

kelper said:

I have a new theory. When I connected my new router, the ISP 'pushed' the old SSID and password to it. This could be helpful for customer support or if a technician visited. He could then guide the customer how to connect to the new wifi. The ISP could surely send a script to the router's NVRAM?

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That's a plausible theory. I do know that in Canada the ISP has your pw and will even ask for it to verify that you're who you say you are. Changing it changes nothing. I already tested that. Perhaps it is different if you buy your own router but that might pose different problems with your ISP. I'm seriously considering this because the way that IT beat me to my password is somewhat disturbing.

Scannerman said:

Admittedly, my basement looks like a hacker's H.Q. with all six desks arranged in a [ configuration but what can one expect for a family of geeks? The real work gets done downstairs. I run about a dozen units from my basement — not always all at once, but I do use a KVM. And no, I'm not mining. lol Every time the cable company sends someone over I CRINGE because I find myself explaining that it's not what it seems. The girls also have the occasional LAN party and the 12 year old runs her own Minecraft server. Me, I just build computers... Okay, maybe a bit more than that. One might say that I add a little extra definition to the term "power user".

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Ha!

@Scannerman

Which password does your ISP know about? The one needed by the router to connect to the internet or the one you need to connect to the wifi?
My router has the first one embedded and it is generic (ie the same for all customers), but the ISP will provide a username and password if you choose to use your own modem/router. I have a Draytek Vigor as a standby and used it when my ISP-provided unit expired.

Here is the latest from the IT department of my ISP.

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"For this customer with the issue of old SSID’s not being present my recommendation for the customer would be the ability to turn of the 5Ghz band for set up of IOT device’s is still possible because splitting bands is not.

If they go to the hub GUI and perform this action to get everything working there should be no issue and they can switch the 5Ghz band back on after setup, I recommend also to try different security types in their advanced wireless settings if they still struggle with older IOT devices connecting up.



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What a crock of BS. Apart from the poor grammar, how can I turn off the 5GHZ when splitting bands is not possible? I have the the bands split so this is inaccurate.

WPA3 is not offered on my router. And what is WPA3-Personal-Transition????? I think this is quite intriguing.

Wpa3 personal transition is for better compatibility with older wpa2 devices.

It kinda defeats the point and added security of wpa3. But they do this to ensure peoples devices can connect, as not everything supports wpa3

For clients that do connect and support wpa3, you do get added security but with some loopholes.

andrew129260 said:

Wpa3 personal transition is for better compatibility with older wpa2 devices.

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Better compatibility but not guaranteed. I have a really old laptop that uses 2.4GHz with 802.11g and WPA2 Personal. It would not connect to the router with WPA3 Personal Transition. I had to downgrade 2.4GHz to WPA2.

andrew129260 said:

Yeah I mean once the line is in your house, you shouldn't ever need your isp to come inside. You can do it all yourself.

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In the US I think the door was opened for installing your own devices when the law was changed for installing your own phones and phone related devices.