New Dumb Apps On Fresh Install

SightUp · Jul 6, 2022

markw51 said:
Don't get your paranoia about having a program create files and folders when it installs itself and that's pretty standard practice. As has already been mentioned, the other 'apps' you see such as TikTok, Disney+ etc. are just SHORTCUTS to then install the app!! Although as your script removes Microsoft Store they won't get installed anyway! Just right click and select uninstall, also out of curiosity why do you want your system to be so stripped down?

I hate advertisements. I paid for, I didn't use some bootleg, version of Windows and not a platform to be shoveled advertisements. Why do I have all of this crap on my system? I didn't pay for this. If so, let me buy an advertisement free OS directly from Microsoft for $100 dollars more. I would do it instantly. And why is this the only OS I can game on without taking huge hits to performance? I hate that Microsoft has monopolized this industry. If I can somehow stick it to the man by never seeing an advertisement, I will happily.

SightUp · Jul 6, 2022

markw51 said:
So you don't run any other programs then? browse the internet? send emails? What do you use it for? looking pretty in the corner?

I game, watch movies, listen to music, research. (just finished my thesis for my grad program) I don't FB, do any social media, use streaming services, use freeware, or produce art.

BrianInEngland · Jul 6, 2022

SightUp said:
I just reinstalled Windows 11 and I got a few new apps I haven't seen before and I need to find out their names to add them to my .bat file that's below.

There was Tiktok, Disney+, Facebook, some kind of clip art... Maybe there was one or two more. Surely someone has noticed these.

What are the names of the apps so I can add them to my script?

What do you actually use this PC FOR? You've removed email, the gaming features and other things.

SightUp · Jul 6, 2022

BrianInEngland said:
What do you actually use this PC FOR? You've removed email, the gaming features and other things.

You can game without using the built in gaming 'features', fyi.
I use Firefox to go to Outlook.com and check my emails.

markw51 · Jul 6, 2022

SightUp said:
I hate advertisements. I paid for, I didn't use some bootleg, version of Windows and not a platform to be shoveled advertisements. Why do I have all of this crap on my system? I didn't pay for this. If so, let me buy an advertisement free OS directly from Microsoft for $100 dollars more. I would do it instantly. And why is this the only OS I can game on without taking huge hits to performance? I hate that Microsoft has monopolized this industry. If I can somehow stick it to the man by never seeing an advertisement, I will happily.

I also hate adverts but as I didn't pay for Win 11, seeing as it was a free upgrade from Win 10, itself a free upgrade from Win 8.1 and that from Win 8, I don't mind a shortcut to an app that I can easily uninstall. You clearly have no issue with installing a web browser then or office suite or media player?

SightUp · Jul 6, 2022

markw51 said:
I also hate adverts but as I didn't pay for Win 11, seeing as it was a free upgrade from Win 10, itself a free upgrade from Win 8.1 and that from Win 8, I don't mind a shortcut to an app that I can easily uninstall. You clearly have no issue with installing a web browser then or office suite or media player?

Right. I have installed Firefox, Word, and VLC.

markw51 · Jul 6, 2022

SightUp said:
Right. I have installed Firefox, Word, and VLC.

And that's all? you'd be better off using an iPad or something similar.

SightUp · Jul 6, 2022

SightUp said:
You can game without using the built in gaming 'features', fyi.
I use Firefox to go to Outlook.com and check my emails.

markw51 said:
And that's all? you'd be better off using an iPad or something similar.

Tell me how to play D2R on it, stream to Twitch and I might consider it.

jvickers · Jul 6, 2022

markw51 said:
And that's all? you'd be better off using an iPad or something similar.

SightUp said:
Right. I have installed Firefox, Word, and VLC.

Wow, I feel like a software glutton! :ROFLMAO:

Spartan · Jul 6, 2022

SightUp said:
I have been very apprehensive about Revo Uninstaller. Maybe I should give it a shot. It doesn't deposit a file in one of the appdata folders or anything like that?

I've been a long time user of Revo Uninstallet but you should be careful what it wants to delete and not blindly delete everything as it does sometimes delete things not related to the app that you uninstalled. I've switched to HiBit uninstaller a year back as it has literally 0 false positives as opposed to Revo and it's also free. In HiBit Uninstaller, if you click on the drop down menu on the top right, you can see it has a section for Windows Store apps wher you can also delete them and their remnants.

PS: I just use the Portable version

idgat · Jul 6, 2022

markw51 said:
... also out of curiosity why do you want your system to be so stripped down?

I have to concede to the OP here. I find Windows 11 excessively bloated with unnecessary bells-and-whistles, it's as if Microsoft is using it as an in-your-face marketing tool for its vested interests.

I buy computers for productivity, not as quasi-entertainment centres, or multi-communication systems. And Revo adequately rids me of that meddlesome software. And makes for a much more uncluttered and cleaner Start menu when teaching the new inexperienced user

Ghot · Jul 6, 2022

SightUp said:
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This garbage deposited folders everywhere!!! Thanks for the bad advice.

Can anyone help me with my original problem? How can I add the said to my .bat file?

Well, ofc it makes installation folders, etc.
I thought you meant did it leave something behind... when it un-installed an app.

I'm more paranoid than anyone... REVO is 100% safe. It doesn't try to call home, and it only made a backup folder because you ... asked it to make a backup.

This is all REVO that installs... there's nothing in ProgramData or AppData.
It's one of the lightest programs I've ever seen. Total size = 21.4MB

BrianInEngland · Jul 6, 2022

idgat said:
I have to concede to the OP here. I find Windows 11 excessively bloated with unnecessary bells-and-whistles, it's as if Microsoft is using it as an in-your-face marketing tool for its vested interests.

I buy computers for productivity, not as quasi-entertainment centres, or multi-communication systems. And Revo adequately rids me of that meddlesome software. And makes for a much more uncluttered and cleaner Start menu when teaching the new inexperienced user

I just install Windows, uninstall any apps or links I don't use, move on. I did a clean install last week but only apps I need or use are installed. *some* Windows apps aren't needed - Media Player is gone as I use something better (PowerDVD). I think it's excessive to remove literally everything that is part of Windows.

hsehestedt · Jul 6, 2022

I've never removed apps using a script like this, so forgive me if this is not correct, just taking a stab at this.

Couldn't you simply run this command to get a list of all the apps and then based upon the output, use the package names to remove the items in question?

Code:

powershell -command "get-appxpackage -allusers

idgat · Jul 6, 2022

BrianInEngland said:
I think it's excessive to remove literally everything that is part of Windows.

That's the point - most (all?) of what I remove is NOT part of Windows, it's not necessary, and removing it doesn't diminish Windows functionality as an efficient OS.

BrianInEngland · Jul 6, 2022

idgat said:
That's the point - most (all?) of what I remove is NOT part of Windows, it's not necessary, and removing it doesn't diminish Windows functionality as an efficient OS.

Well if MS released a 'clean' Windows with no email, media features, gaming features, calendar etc and was literally a bare-bones OS, they would get slated in the tech press and by the public for removing things everyone uses/might need.

Example: New PC with no email client installed? No thanks, I want to turn it on and be able to do stuff out of the box without having to find/install other software. MS would never do that.

Ghot · Jul 6, 2022

That's one of the first things I remove... MS email clients.

After a clean install... I pretty much remove anything that isn't basic Windows.
Things like OneDrive, Cortana, all the "libraries" folders, MS AV programs, MS browsers, WMP, MS image editors,
Notifications, Action centers, Widgets, etc.

All I want is a teeny Windows OS that allows me to install MY programs and run them.
That's it.

Oh yeah... and it should be backwards compatible, with all software, all the way back to MS-DOS.

BrianInEngland · Jul 6, 2022

Ghot said:
That's one of the first things I remove... MS email clients.

After a clean install... I pretty much remove anything that isn't basic Windows.
Things like OneDrive, Cortana, all the "libraries" folders, MS AV programs, MS browsers, WMP, MS image editors,
Notifications, Action centers, Widgets, etc.

All I want is a teeny Windows OS that allows me to install MY programs and run them.
That's it.

Oh yeah... and it should be backwards compatible, with all software, all the way back to MS-DOS.

So what qualifies as 'basic Windows' ? A desktop with absolutely NOTHING else installed? How well do you think that would sell if MS released it?
No email, no internet, no way to play music/videos. I know replacements can be installed, but I'm talking about the OOBE.

Some of the things you mentioned such as widgets, notifications, action centre are all 'basic' things surely? They're part of the 'core' OS

Ghot · Jul 6, 2022

BrianInEngland said:
So what qualifies as 'basic Windows' ? A desktop with absolutely NOTHING else installed? How well do you think that would sell if MS released it?
No email, no internet, no way to play music/videos. I know replacements can be installed, but I'm talking about the OOBE.

Some of the things you mentioned such as widgets, notifications, action centre are all 'basic' things surely? They're part of the 'core' OS

The only thing anyone would really need is some sort of browser, one that could then be easily uninstalled if desired.
Nothing else that can't be downloaded is really needed.... OOBE.
One or two accessibility things, and that's really all you need.

BrianInEngland · Jul 6, 2022

Ghot said:
The only thing anyone would really need is some sort of browser, one that could then be easily uninstalled if desired.
Nothing else that can't be downloaded is really needed.... OOBE.
One or two accessibility things, and that's really all you need.

No that's not all 'anyone' would need, it's what YOU need, for 99% of Windows users they want a functioning OS that they can use when it's first powered on.

"some sort of browser" ? So you'd be happy if Google or Firefox was pre-installed instead of Edge? Never going to happen.