Solved New Norton

flashh4 · Nov 21, 2021

That clearly says you're relying on unverified information to disparage a product you've not used

This is a classic case of regurgitating noise to simply disparage a product never used.

Dru2 to put a disclaimer on your comment, i never said i haven't used it, meaning Norton or McAfee ! I said i based it on what my clients reported !! And if you check my other post i usually end with !!

Chuck

Dru2 · Nov 21, 2021

flashh4 said:
Dru2 to put a disclaimer on your comment, i never said i haven't used it, meaning Norton or McAfee ! I said i based it on what my clients reported !! And if you check my other post i usually end with !!
Chuck

Yeah, well following the thread and your comments, if you'd used it, you would have led with that instead of saying this....

flashh4 said:
My comment was based on my clients reporting back after removing them !!
Chuck

Sorry, I'm just going by what "you" posted!!

The Pool Man · Nov 21, 2021

The-Hive · Nov 22, 2021

Iit may be claimed Norton may be a resource hog ( probably with older slower computers ) but with more recent computers having more ram and ssd space it isn't a problem, certainly not from my experience

Dark Knight · Nov 22, 2021

I just bought Norton 360 Deluxe not too long ago (only because of a real good deal ) , I used to use it years ago and yes there was a time when it was just over bloated but I can confirm, that statement is no longer true.

Only thing I DO NOT like about it is in order for their virus removal warranty to stay in effect you have to leave rebilling (payment) info intact on your Norton profile. You can remove your payment info from it after installation but it states very clearly that when you do if by any chance you need them to remove any virus from your system they will not which I think sucks, but then again I have never needed the assistance of an antivirus vendor to remove a virus for me , hell in 26 years I have had only one virus , that was a drive by and was able to remove it myself.

Wynona · Nov 22, 2021

The-Hive said:
I had a message today from Norton, full of how the "new" Norton will look after all my security needs and how wonderful it will be, apart from a new yellower look it actually told me nothing. Any Norton users know what the so called changes will be? I am a big fan of Norton, I have used them for many years like the old days of System Works. I never use free or cheap AV, the company got hit once so I am extra careful.

I haven't used Norton and McAfee since I was handed both and asked to review them.

What I found was that on a newly installed system, both Norton and McAfee found false viruses (virii)! And that was the end! I handed both back to the then president of HAL-PC (Houston Area League of PC Users).

The-Hive · Nov 22, 2021

Wynona said:
I haven't used Norton and McAfee since I was handed both and asked to review them.

What I found was that on a newly installed system, both Norton and McAfee found false viruses (virii)! And that was the end! I handed both back to the then president of HAL-PC (Houston Area League of PC Users).

I have only ever used Norton and have never had that problem, the only thing I get is WS.reputation.1 which is not a virus or malware but it just means it is possible to be one. It is normally on newly released files which are fine, however, it does give you the choice of what to do. I think the wording could be changed so it is more obvious what type of file it is

Wynona · Nov 22, 2021

Dark Knight said:
I just bought Norton 360 Deluxe not too long ago (only because of a real good deal ) , I used to use it years ago and yes there was a time when it was just over bloated but I can confirm, that statement is no longer true.

Only thing I DO NOT like about it is in order for their virus removal warranty to stay in effect you have to leave rebilling (payment) info intact on your Norton profile. You can remove your payment info from it after installation but it states very clearly that when you do if by any chance you need them to remove any virus from your system they will not which I think sucks, but then again I have never needed the assistance of an antivirus vendor to remove a virus for me , hell in 26 years I have had only one virus , that was a drive by and was able to remove it myself.

Yup! They want to be sure that when your subscription expires, they get to bill you for the next year without your approval.

Wynona · Nov 22, 2021

The-Hive said:
I have only ever used Norton and have never had that problem, the only thing I get is WS.reputation.1 which is not a virus or malware but it just means it is possible to be one. It is normally on newly released files which are fine, however, it does give you the choice of what to do. I think the wording could be changed so it is more obvious what type of file it is

I had multiple "hits" on both. And, although they may be better now, once bitten . . . Besides, Defender is adequate for me. I haven't had any malware on any of my computers in years.

Wynona · Nov 22, 2021

Dru2 said:
It was the same in the US where pre-built PCs came with a one-year license of McAfee installed. And most driver disks also included McAfee as an offering (along with other third-party utilities).

I have learned that when I install Adobe Reader I need to uncheck the McAfee stuff. One year paid license or not, I don't want it on my 'chines, so I have Unchecky installed in case I miss unchecking something.

Dark Knight · Nov 22, 2021

Wynona said:
I haven't used Norton and McAfee since I was handed both and asked to review them.

What I found was that on a newly installed system, both Norton and McAfee found false viruses (virii)! And that was the end! I handed both back to the then president of HAL-PC (Houston Area League of PC Users).

When I first installed it I did an entire system scan consisting of six different drives and it found nothing , system was clean, so I would like to question what exactly it found on your pc? maybe not false positives?

Wynona · Nov 22, 2021

Dark Knight said:
When I first installed it I did an entire system scan consisting of six different drives and it found nothing , system was clean, so I would like to question what exactly it found on your pc? maybe not false positives?

It was a few years ago, and I don't remember exactly what they "found", but the system was newly installed for the test. I know for a fact that it was clean, since it was installed without benefit of the 'net.

Dark Knight · Nov 22, 2021

Wynona said:
Yup! They want to be sure that when your subscription expires, they get to bill you for the next year without your approval.

Yes but what most do not know, if you remove your billing info, when your subscription expires , they don't want to lose your business , so the chances of you having to pay the full re-subscription price of around $118 drops exponentially because they want to keep you.

When you buy a software subscription , never , NEVER pay the full re-subscription price. Most times if the vendor wants to keep you , you can get anywhere from 30 to 50% off or more.

Any subscription software I buy , I immediately remove my billing information after installation and registration.

Wynona · Nov 22, 2021

Dark Knight said:
Yes but what most do not know, if you remove your billing info, when your subscription expires , they don't want to lose your business , so the chances of you having to pay the full re-subscription price of around $118 drops exponentially because they want to keep you.

When you buy a software subscription , never , NEVER pay the full re-subscription price. Most times if the vendor wants to keep you , you can get anywhere from 30 to 50% off or more.

Yep, but how many inexperience new users understand this?

Wisewiz · Nov 22, 2021

Wynona said:
Yep, but how many inexperience new users understand this?

At last count, somewhere between zero and none.

ThrashZone · Nov 22, 2021

Hi,
Sorry man but you can't have a norton shill thread without past users experiences as well lol

Personally best thing about norton is they introduced me to malwarebytes to clean what they failed to
A) Block
B) Clean within their own built in features

Since then I switched to mbam pro saved a crapload of money over 12 years since mbam pro was a one time lifetime license 25.us a pop and I got 4 and guess what it's still free for realtime protection and I never looked back unless someone throws down a mcafee/ norton shill thread and it just makes me laugh so yeah thanks for the laugh lol :lmao:

I never got anything out of mcafee they were/ are useless so at least norton support wasn't totally useless I learned from them what to really use for security and yeah no infections to date I've not changed my activity at all.

Only other good thing about norton is online backup because eventually you will need it :zany:

The-Hive · Nov 22, 2021

I think the bottom line is use what you happy with, that way it makes you feel secure

Dru2 · Nov 22, 2021

I think there's some confusion here...

Dark Knight said:
Only thing I DO NOT like about it is in order for their virus removal warranty to stay in effect you have to leave rebilling (payment) info intact on your Norton profile. You can remove your payment info from it after installation but it states very clearly that when you do if by any chance you need them to remove any virus from your system they will not which I think sucks, but then again I have never needed the assistance of an antivirus vendor to remove a virus for me , hell in 26 years I have had only one virus , that was a drive by and was able to remove it myself.

The real deal is they want you to leave your payment info so they can automatically renew your license once the current one expires. That If you remove your billing info, they can't renew your license (subscription), which in turn means no renewal, no virus updates. This ONLY happens after your current subscription expires, and you choose not to renew.

This is standard procedure for any software subscription. Nothing new here.

wordsworth · Nov 22, 2021

I used Norton for some time back in the Win 95/98 days and on into XP but I came to think of it as trying to do too many things. I went through Zone Alarm, McAfee, Avast, Kaspersky, but have settled on Malwarebytes for a good many years now. It is funny though after leaving Norton, that even Malwarebytes is more of a “suite” now, but I have two lifetime licenses so I'll stay with it unless they really mess it up.

flashh4 · Nov 22, 2021

Anti-virus and anti-malware programs each perform different tasks as it relates to computer security and threat detection. Essentially, they look for and remove different types of malicious threats.

In simplistic terms, Anti-virus programs use massive databases with different scanning engines and detection methods to scan for infectious malware which includes viruses, worms, Trojans, rootkis and bots.
Anti-malware programs use smaller databases and generally tend to focus more on adware, spyware, unwanted toolbars, browser hijackers, potentially unwanted programs and potentially unsafe applications.
So i say also use what ever you feel safe & protected with ! And every one should have a Malware Removal Specialist look through their machine at once a year so the guys at Bleeping Computer say !!