OneDrive: Still the elephant in the room.

Scannerman · Nov 24, 2023

Wynona said:
I read an article in the past few days that said the next feature update will allow us to uninstall Edge and OneDrive according to new E U rules.

Don't ask where I read it . . . I'm too old to remember!

This is interesting and I'm wondering if this option will be available to North American users.

jro11 · Nov 24, 2023

- What are the issues with Edge? And how is the Edge issue (i.e., it's just another browser that does nothing until you open it) similar to OneDrive?
- Looking through the Microsoft installed apps (concentrating on Microsoft); and sorting by Date Installed (none explicitly by me),
Can all the following apps be safely uninstalled?
- Dev Home (11/21/23)
- Microsoft 365 (11/18/23) (Might have been a System Update?)
- Microsoft Edge (11/18/23) "
- Microsoft Edge WebView2 Runtime (11/18/23) "
- Microsoft Photos (11/16/23)
- Feedback Hub (11/15/23)
- Microsoft Clipchamp (11/09/23)
- Microsoft Teams (11/9/23)
- Power Automate (11/9/23)
- Outlook (new) (11/8/23) Which Outlook?
- Microsoft ToDo (11/6/23)
- Solitare & Casual Games (11/5/23)
- Microsoft Update Health Tools (11/2/23)
- Movies & TV (11/21/23)
- Microsoft Edge Update (10/27/23)
- Camera (10/26/23)
- Notepad (10/26/23)
- Sound Recorder (10/27/23)
- Quick Assist (10/24/23)
- Microsoft Defender (10/11/23)
- Maps (10/3/23)
- Microsoft Defender (10/11/23)
- Microsoft Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable (x64) - 14.32.31326 (10/1/23) same program installed twice (dif size)
- Microsoft Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable (x64) - 14.32.31326 (10/1/23)
- People (10/11/23)
- Windows Package Manager Source (winget) (9/27/23)
- Windows Clock (9/20/23)
- Family (9/20/23)
- Remote Desktop Connection (9/9/23)
- Calculator (9/3/23)
- Weather (9/3/23)
- Speech Pack (8/30/23)
- Xbox (8/29/23)
- Xbox Live (3/29/23)

p.s. Is there a way to get a listing of all Installed apps. (What command line does one use?)

Relevant tutorials:
Tutorial Remove Uninstall Entries for Apps in Windows 11 Remove Uninstall Entries for Apps in Windows 11 Tutorial Why would one want to remove “Uninstall” and is this a safe option what with all the changes happening to the Installed Apps?

Tutorial Disable Uninstall Entries for Apps in Windows 11 https://www.elevenforum.com/t/disable-uninstall-entries-for-apps-in-windows-11.18796/ Why would one want to disable “Uninstall” and is this a safe option what with all the changes happening to the Installed Apps?

BrianInEngland · Nov 24, 2023

Scannerman said:
This is interesting and I'm wondering if this option will be available to North American users.

I think it will be for EEA countries only, as the EU don't like MS.

Marie SWE · Nov 24, 2023

Scannerman said:
This is interesting and I'm wondering if this option will be available to North American users.

BrianInEngland said:
I think it will be for EEA countries only, as the EU don't like MS.

*smiling* yeah EU is good for that part.

I dont know how it is now after Brexit... But for you in the US can always download the UK/European english ISO and that way be able to take advantages of EU' rage on MS

CountMike · Nov 24, 2023

jro11 said:
- What are the issues with Edge? And how is the Edge issue (i.e., it's just another browser that does nothing until you open it) similar to OneDrive?
- Looking through the Microsoft installed apps (concentrating on Microsoft); and sorting by Date Installed (none explicitly by me),
Can all the following apps be safely uninstalled?
- Dev Home (11/21/23)
- Microsoft 365 (11/18/23) (Might have been a System Update?)
- Microsoft Edge (11/18/23) "
- Microsoft Edge WebView2 Runtime (11/18/23) "
- Microsoft Photos (11/16/23)
- Feedback Hub (11/15/23)
- Microsoft Clipchamp (11/09/23)
- Microsoft Teams (11/9/23)
- Power Automate (11/9/23)
- Outlook (new) (11/8/23) Which Outlook?
- Microsoft ToDo (11/6/23)
- Solitare & Casual Games (11/5/23)
- Microsoft Update Health Tools (11/2/23)
- Movies & TV (11/21/23)
- Microsoft Edge Update (10/27/23)
- Camera (10/26/23)
- Notepad (10/26/23)
- Sound Recorder (10/27/23)
- Quick Assist (10/24/23)
- Microsoft Defender (10/11/23)
- Maps (10/3/23)
- Microsoft Defender (10/11/23)
- Microsoft Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable (x64) - 14.32.31326 (10/1/23) same program installed twice (dif size)
- Microsoft Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable (x64) - 14.32.31326 (10/1/23)
- People (10/11/23)
- Windows Package Manager Source (winget) (9/27/23)
- Windows Clock (9/20/23)
- Family (9/20/23)
- Remote Desktop Connection (9/9/23)
- Calculator (9/3/23)
- Weather (9/3/23)
- Speech Pack (8/30/23)
- Xbox (8/29/23)
- Xbox Live (3/29/23)

p.s. Is there a way to get a listing of all Installed apps. (What command line does one use?)

Relevant tutorials:
Tutorial Remove Uninstall Entries for Apps in Windows 11 Remove Uninstall Entries for Apps in Windows 11 Tutorial Why would one want to remove “Uninstall” and is this a safe option what with all the changes happening to the Installed Apps?

Tutorial Disable Uninstall Entries for Apps in Windows 11 https://www.elevenforum.com/t/disable-uninstall-entries-for-apps-in-windows-11.18796/ Why would one want to disable “Uninstall” and is this a safe option what with all the changes happening to the Installed Apps?

Some of those are not APPs but components and may render windows useless.

jro11 · Nov 25, 2023

Some of those are not APPs but components and may render windows useless.

Very true! Just imagine what might happen if one tries to Uninstall Microsoft Visual C++ 2015-2022...

But this is just the kind of deceit I'm talking about. It may seem insignificant to people who understand computer fundamentals but it's sloppy, and it shows an attitude of disrespect (or, more to the point, indifference) on the part of Microsoft--who would invite a user to "Remove" a "(non) Program" when by so doing s/he could "render windows useless"?

These small things add up...and say as much about the quality (or, more to the point, integrity) of the company as the programs it misrepresents.

antspants · Nov 25, 2023

I don’t think Microsoft is inviting anyone to remove anything. And to be frank, users who don’t know what Microsoft Visual C++ (or anything else) is, shouldn’t be removing or screwing around with it. Don’t you think? And where does deceit come into play?

CountMike · Nov 25, 2023

Those tutorials are to prevent removal/un-installation of APPs and components, or even their listing. Why do I do it in some occasions?
In many instances I was asked to fix a PC with malfunctioning or disabled windows. Multiple users, usually family, with single account. Some more "knowledgeable" users would attempt to de-bloat windows by uninstalling what they think is unnecessary programs. components or disable them, some even attempted to delete critical system files as "unnecessary" and taking disk space. Although mostly hidden and well protected with some determination they still can be screwed up.

jro11 · Nov 25, 2023

CountMike said:
Although mostly hidden and well protected with some determination they still can be screwed up.

Yes, you're so right...
But wait, here, after the end of the Apps and Installed Components is a "Related setting" called

"System Components Remove and manage system components that are preinstalled on Windows"

And what are the (dangerous) "System Components"?

Confusing? Crystal clear??

CountMike · Nov 25, 2023

jro11 said:
Yes, you're so right...
But wait, here, after the end of the Apps and Installed Components is a "Related setting" called

And what are the (dangerous) "System Components"?
View attachment 79028
Confusing? Crystal clear??

Yes confusing, all but Windows security can be uninstalled. Of all others i kept only Store others are gone as I don't have any use for them.

ThrashZone · Nov 25, 2023

Hi,
Personally I prefer onedrive/... website but to each his her blah... own
I have no need for it on my system same goes for news feeds/... this is all best used with my preferred browse when i wish to do it or not

Y'all can have office 365 to.

antspants · Nov 25, 2023

There are all these tubes, wires, wing nuts and parts that could be removed at the top of my cars engine, doesn’t mean I should start just randomly removing stuff. I find it funny that someone would just remove something from anything without investigating what that something does. Like with my car, I remove something and whatever I remove it from breaks, that’s on me. But why would I?

cereberus · Nov 25, 2023

Marie SWE said:
*smiling* yeah EU is good for that part.
I dont know how it is now after Brexit... But for you in the US can always download the UK/European english ISO and that way be able to take advantages of EU' rage on MS

UK is not part of EU. There is no such version as European English. What they call International is UK iso.

I imagine EU versions will be updated N versions. Even though they exist, majority never used them The EU cannot dictate what MS supply only ensure that EU users get a choice.

Frankly it is garbage - just petty EU bureacrats pompously being self important.

Edwin · Nov 25, 2023

antspants said:
But why would I?

If Macrium makes a Backup for my car, I'll try it!!!

antspants · Nov 25, 2023

Edwin said:
If Macrium makes a Backup for my car, I'll try it!!!

Haha. I was considering photocopying my fat ass before going to work on it with a hack saw.

Edwin · Nov 25, 2023

Boy..., we sure beat the

out of this dead horse, didn't we!?
I think we can safely conclude: OneDrive, you either love it or hate it!

Wonder if the OP got the answer they were looking for!?!?!?

Marie SWE · Nov 25, 2023

cereberus said:
UK is not part of EU. There is no such version as European English. What they call International is UK iso.

I imagine EU versions will be updated N versions. Even though they exist, majority never used them The EU cannot dictate what MS supply only ensure that EU users get a choice.

Frankly it is garbage - just petty EU bureacrats pompously being self important.

I say Microsoft's-board is crap, as they force users to use things they dont want.. If i want to use Firefox, why in the heck should Edge still be installed on the system and taking up space.. If i dont want copilot or cortana.. why should i be forced to use it or having it taking up space on the system.. The same for Xbox.. its a damn game console, it should not be on a office computer.

So even i vote for Swexit, EU is doing a good thing forcing MS to make it possible for us users to uninstall bloatware without the need of being a IT pro and learn how to hack the system to get stuff out.
I dont choose windows, I'm forced to use windows or Mac to be able to use some society/government/banking services.. And when MS has the world monopoly they should not act as jackasses and take advantage of it as Apple always have done with locking up people in a ecosystem.

I loved Win2000, and i really liked WinXP SP3.. and i also liked win7. So i dont dislike windows, i dislike the MS-board decisions for messing up Windows from win8 and newer.

I say if MS want to make 10/11 like they are doing.. they should release the LTSC version to normal people.. that is business only volume licencing.. that way everyone get what they want.. but if they did release the LTSC to the public.. almost no one would buy home or pro if they can get a more stable system.

That is my opinion

Marie SWE · Nov 25, 2023

Edwin said:
Wonder if the OP got the answer they were looking for!?!?!?

or got panic scared and went an bought a Mac computer

antspants · Nov 25, 2023

Edwin said:
Wonder if the OP got the answer they were looking for!?!?!?

Marie SWE said:
or got panic scared and went an bought a Mac computer

Let’s ask him… Hey @jro11 are you having fun yet?

jro11 · Nov 25, 2023

antspants said:
There are all these tubes, wires, wing nuts and parts that could be removed at the top of my cars engine, doesn’t mean I should start just randomly removing stuff. I find it funny that someone would just remove something from anything without investigating what that something does. Like with my car, I remove something and whatever I remove it from breaks, that’s on me. But why would I?

Your car isn't obsessed with changing all the time. It doesn't think that without changing constantly, it'll stop profiting off you. Just think you're parked in a huge parking lot and your car decides it'll be gold colored (oh..no..not gold then you wouldn't be able to tell it from the rest of the coast. How about outback brown) so you spend hours trying to find it...
...But you might think of removing stuff (file down those wings) if it meant you would have a leaner/meaner machine...And what about it calling your phone to provide you with a code to enter every time you tried to open the door? And that key you lost that now costs around $600 because it needs to be programmed... (I need to learn Macrium. No program seems more sacrosanct on this forum.)

I did it. I just subscribed to Macrium. (Ebony Friday sale)
Oh, and Marie, there are a few squirrily things about Free File Sync (having to do with duplicate files; having to do with..(yes you guessed it, OneDrive, that I'm trying to work through.