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A while back Microsoft removed the Mail and Calendar app in Windows 11 and pushed for replacement to Outlook for Windows app.

I then noticed that Microsoft installed Mail and Calendar app in Windows 11 again. Confusing if you follow the Microsoft trail. Thus Windows users thinking it is okay to use the Mail and Calendar app again.

Recently Microsoft announced in the news that Mail and Calendar app will stop working on December 31, 2024.

Microsoft explains why the new Outlook is better than the Mail and Calendar app.

This is sending very confusing messages out to novice to non-tech savvy Windows users. First they use the Mail app, get pushed over to New Outlook, and then return to Mail app. Now as of December 31, 2024, the Mail app will stop working and users will be lost without knowing how to convert over to the New Outlook. Thus, end user frustrating about why they cannot get email or why their Mail program has problems now.

I have been dealing with many end users that are just like this and I keep trying to correct Microsoft's on-and-off again App switching decisions.
 

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Nipdawg said:
I have been dealing with many end users that are just like this and I keep trying to correct Microsoft's on-and-off again App switching decisions.
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MS CEOs must be on drugs on something, I actually liked Outlook New and then they switched it to a silly webapp.
The best way to deal with MS's nonsense is to avoid it. Use 3rd party apps whenever you can. I use Mailbird now.
 

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When I open calendar or mail, they 'crash' and then open outlook. What are they doing?!
 

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old mail and calendar were much better.
 

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TairikuOkami said:
MS CEOs must be on drugs on something, I actually liked Outlook New and then they switched it to a silly webapp.
The best way to deal with MS's nonsense is to avoid it. Use 3rd party apps whenever you can. I use Mailbird now.
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Many average Windows users do not understand using third-party apps. Since Microsoft automatically (somehow) set up their emails in Mail app or Outlook new app, they just use it. When it stops working, they are lost on what to do.

I have some users using Mozilla Thunderbird, but with Microsoft's security changing on Exchange servers, many IMAP connections are no longer working.

I recommend users to just log in to Outlook.com for the email, which brings them in to their Microsoft Account. I think the web interface is better than the new Outlook, but I am just used to using the web login.
 

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James said:
When I open calendar or mail, they 'crash' and then open outlook. What are they doing?!
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Microsoft supposedly getting rid of the Mail and Calendar app.
 

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Nipdawg said:
Many average Windows users do not understand using third-party apps.
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The fan part is that Outlook client no longer supports Outlook, but 3rd party apps easily do via Ouath2. :lmao:
Outlook client on android has no problem logging into Outlook, MS is totally messed up since outsourcing.

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Edwin said:
How do you like it?
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It works, it is fairly simple, but sadly it it yet another browser/email, like Thunderbird, using an outdated Chromium 130 and 1GB+ RAM.
I was thinking about returning to POP Peeper, but opening emails is fairly dull. It is still a viable option, there are not many alternatives.
Edwin said:
Did you get Premium/Subscription?
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Using Free version only, I just forward all emails into one.
 

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Inaccuracies creeping in with non users. I use the Mail and Calendar App for maybe 8 years.

New Outlook gets installed automatically, roughly once per day, and it replaces the Mail and Calender Icons. However the Mail & Calendar App is not currently uninstalled.
You can uninstall New Outlook and get your old Icons back and use the old one.

New Outlook is very irritating and so is the intrusive Ad that takes top position in the message list (free version). It is not only MS that does that, it seems to be a nasty new trend.
Personally I prefer to use built in Windows options, very reluctant to use another, but...

New Outlook and the Web access method looks very similar which is part of MS intentions.

Currently have Thunderbird and BlueMail under test as potential replacements.
 

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Helmut said:
You can uninstall New Outlook and get your old Icons back and use the old one.
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Or use New Outlook, Settings, General, About Outlook, Open Mail now.
 

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Helmut said:
BlueMail under test as potential replacements.
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I was using BlueMail for several months, but they seem to be as uncertain as MS. The latest version removed Delete button and moved it on the other side of the screen, it was replaced with MultiEdit button, I have no idea what is that for, I know what is MultiPass from 5th Element. Also the icon is no longer transparent and several other bugs. It seems that email client apps compete by adding features no one asked for. I need my email client to be RELIABLE! To check and to write email! I do not need it to order me coffee when I work at 3am. They fail to understand that. On the other hand, their support is genuine, when I write a complaint, they reply within 24 hours. (y)
 

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I have the answer!!!

eM Client :shush:
 

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Hello.

I'm using an @virgin.net acc but I'm told they have stopped supporting it. Mine however was still working sending and receiving daily.
I am using it in "outlook" from [365] but it has now suddently stopped working saying wrong password entered so no emails coming or going.

Any suggestions on what will be the best thing to do.
Get a new email acc if so which one is best and then migrate all my "OLD" email across to it.

Any help offered many thanks.

Regards
 

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this is of no help with outlook or mail, but.
Vivaldi Browser has built within the browser Email and Calendar.
it works with hotmail, outlook, gmail, yahoo and many others and is all contained within the browser.
its very much like the old Netscape Navigator but has greater customisation.
vivaldi.com

Vivaldi Browser | Powerful, Personal and Private web browser

It’s a web browser. But fun. It comes with a bunch of clever features built-in. It’s super flexible and does not track you. Get the Vivaldi browser for desktop, mobile, and your car!
vivaldi.com vivaldi.com

best of luck, Steve ..
 

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