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jimminy · Aug 23, 2025

OldMainframeGuy said:
The documentation might not be world-class but I can't think of another commercial application costing $4.99USD that delivers enough value that it made upgrading to Windows 11 almost painless.

I agree. It was worth the $5

dotsyx · Aug 25, 2025

Two issues that just popped up, I believe with recent updates on Insider. I'm using StartAllBack 3.9.13.5293 3 August 2025 (beta)

I have reinstalled SAB and run sfc and dism commands with no errors.

Sometimes when I left click an icon in the System Tray, like the Sound icon, the flyout won't pop up. Tried W11 and W10 styles. I have to restart Explorer for it to work. Didn't notice this on .12, but it is intermittent, and maybe not related to the version.

This next issue others have reported here, but I am also affected. Under the taskbar Toolbars menu, New Toolbar doesn't work. No box pops up to select the folder, but it locks you out of using your taskbar until Explorer is restarted. The box is not in alt+tab or on any of my other monitors. Happens on both .12 and .13. System specs below. Cheers.

Wolfzz · Aug 25, 2025

dotsyx said:
Two issues that just popped up, I believe with recent updates on Insider. I'm using StartAllBack 3.9.13.5293 3 August 2025 (beta)

I have reinstalled SAB and run sfc and dism commands with no errors.

Sometimes when I left click an icon in the System Tray, like the Sound icon, the flyout won't pop up. Tried W11 and W10 styles. I have to restart Explorer for it to work. Didn't notice this on .12, but it is intermittent, and maybe not related to the version.

This next issue others have reported here, but I am also affected. Under the taskbar Toolbars menu, New Toolbar doesn't work. No box pops up to select the folder, but it locks you out of using your taskbar until Explorer is restarted. The box is not in alt+tab or on any of my other monitors. Happens on both .12 and .13. System specs below. Cheers.

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Maybe try StartAllBack_3.9.13.5296 18 August 2025 (beta)

flhthemi · Aug 25, 2025

dotsyx said:
Two issues that just popped up, I believe with recent updates on Insider. I'm using StartAllBack 3.9.13.5293 3 August 2025 (beta)

I have reinstalled SAB and run sfc and dism commands with no errors.

Sometimes when I left click an icon in the System Tray, like the Sound icon, the flyout won't pop up. Tried W11 and W10 styles. I have to restart Explorer for it to work. Didn't notice this on .12, but it is intermittent, and maybe not related to the version.

I have always had a similar issue and have mentioned it before. On startup if I click the Calendar/Notifications I'll get one of three things:

1) Nothing happens
2) The calendar/notifications open on the left
3) It works properly

If I open Properties and change the location of the taskbar from TOP to BOTTOM, open the calendar/notifications, it displays on the right like it should. If I then place the taskbar back to the top it works as it should. Been using SAB since it was released and this has never been corrected. It happens on EVERY Windows 11 23H and 24H system I have. I thought it might be because I had not paid the registration fee. So I paid the fee, still have the issue.

Ghost1959 · Aug 25, 2025

So it wasn't just me. It seems the SAB 3.9.13.5293 has an issue with recent installs of Win11. SAB 3.9.13.5296 seems to have corrected (mostly) the issue but I haven't checked it on any version other than Win11 Dev 26200.5761 (in place upgrade to Dev 26200.5751). Prior to the newest Dev version I continued to have problems. I'm planning a fresh/clean build in the near future and will see if the problem persists. I'll report back.

Wolfzz · Aug 25, 2025

StartAllBack 3.9.13.5300 (25 August 2025)

Just released not shore whats been updated or if its Stable Sorry.

Dark Knight · Aug 25, 2025

Wolfzz said:
StartAllBack 3.9.13.5300 (25 August 2025)

Just released not shore whats been updated or if its Stable Sorry.

Not stable yet , current version on the website is still 3.9.13, the developer Tihiy doesn't put out stable versions with long version numbers, next stable release will probably be 3.9.14 or thereabouts.

dotsyx · Aug 25, 2025

Wolfzz said:
Maybe try StartAllBack_3.9.13.5296 18 August 2025 (beta)

I have tested with 5296 and the Toolbar issue still exists. Haven't encountered the System Tray issue, but it's intermittent and I haven't tested for very long. I'll try the new 5300 thanks.

Edwin · Aug 25, 2025

Wolfzz said:
... not shore whats been updated or if its Stable...

I don't see anything new..., stable enough, though.

dotsyx · Aug 25, 2025

dotsyx said:
I have tested with 5296 and the Toolbar issue still exists. Haven't encountered the System Tray issue, but it's intermittent and I haven't tested for very long. I'll try the new 5300 thanks.

Update: Toolbar issue still exists in 5300

dotsyx · Aug 25, 2025

dotsyx said:
Two issues that just popped up, I believe with recent updates on Insider. I'm using StartAllBack 3.9.13.5293 3 August 2025 (beta)

I have reinstalled SAB and run sfc and dism commands with no errors.

Sometimes when I left click an icon in the System Tray, like the Sound icon, the flyout won't pop up. Tried W11 and W10 styles. I have to restart Explorer for it to work. Didn't notice this on .12, but it is intermittent, and maybe not related to the version.

This next issue others have reported here, but I am also affected. Under the taskbar Toolbars menu, New Toolbar doesn't work. No box pops up to select the folder, but it locks you out of using your taskbar until Explorer is restarted. The box is not in alt+tab or on any of my other monitors. Happens on both .12 and .13. System specs below. Cheers.

View attachment 143295

@Edwin

tistou77 · Aug 28, 2025

dotsyx said:
Sometimes when I left click an icon in the System Tray, like the Sound icon, the flyout won't pop up. Tried W11 and W10 styles. I have to restart Explorer for it to work. Didn't notice this on .12, but it is intermittent, and maybe not related to the version.

Some users have these problems too, others have the "cosmetic problem" with the address and search bar (width) and custom theme, including me.
We're also staying with 3.9.12

dotsyx · Aug 28, 2025

tistou77 said:
Some users have these problems too, others have the "cosmetic problem" with the address and search bar (width) and custom theme, including me.
We're also staying with 3.9.12

Haven't had the issue with 3.9.13.5300

tistou77 · Aug 28, 2025

dotsyx said:
Haven't had the issue with 3.9.13.5300

What issue don't you have ?

pietcorus2 · Aug 28, 2025

New , stable , version just came out ; 3.9.14.5302 ............

dotsyx · Aug 28, 2025

tistou77 said:
What issue don't you have ?

The Flyout issue I described that you quoted

Edwin · Aug 28, 2025

pietcorus2 said:
New , stable , version just came out

Winuser · Aug 28, 2025

Edwin said:
Often it's Under The Hood stuff.

I just play with it til I figure it out!

IMO, hands on is the best way to learn.

tistou77 · Aug 28, 2025

dotsyx said:
The Flyout issue I described that you quoted

Ah ok, reading your post, I understood the opposite

dotsyx said:
Sometimes when I left click an icon in the System Tray, like the Sound icon, the flyout won't pop up. Tried W11 and W10 styles. I have to restart Explorer for it to work. Didn't notice this on .12, but it is intermittent, and maybe not related to the version.

Wolfzz · Aug 28, 2025

StartAllBack 3.9.14.5303 (Stable)

- TaskbarAnimations=2 gimmick
- Workaround action center not working when taskbar is on top
- Fix NVIDIA Container toasts
- Fix combobox animation
- Fix taskbar not above fullscreen window while jumplist is visible
- Fix Win+Shift+T insider hotkey
- Fix dark magic with nanazip/dark7zip
- Fix some focus issues

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