Surprisingly easy time installing on unsupported hardware


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@wordsworth

It's a good plan, and I'll bet you share it with millions of other tech-savvy users.
 

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2) Note that you will need at least a version 1.2 TPM. At least I had that going for me. I equip every machine I've built in the last decade with a TPM.

I was pleased to see I was able to clean install on my old non-TPM machine ( system 1) which has no TPM bios settings, using this regedit file found here at this link and oddly I never had to delete this file: C:\$WINDOWS.~BT\Sources\appraiserres.dll that's mention at the end, perhaps because I did a clean install which as you say is what makes a big difference.
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\LabConfig] "BypassTPMCheck"=dword:00000001 "BypassSecureBootCheck"=dword:00000001 "BypassRAMCheck"=dword:00000001 "BypassStorageCheck"=dword:00000001 "BypassCPUCheck"=dword:00000001
 

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Hi,
I'm going to see if win-10 update mini tool works to disable win-11 updating :cool:
 

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@wordsworth

It's a good plan, and I'll bet you share it with millions of other tech-savvy users.
And Microsoft knew there would be many many folks looking to do this which is why I'd like to have had a bug in the room when the discussions took place especially concerning the CPU requirements. :)
 

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I'm having some surprising results upgrading unsupported hardware to Windows 11. Some machines I would expect success on, but I have a lot of "unsupported" systems as well where I would have expected at least a small amount of resistance. Here is breakdown of the unsupported systems:

1 Machine that will never run Win 11 as it is BIOS based, and has no TPM (very old machine. At least 10 years old.)
1 Machine is a 7th Gen mobile i7 making it unsupported, but it does meet all other requirements (TPM, Secure Boot, etc.)
1 Machine is a 6th Gen mobile i7. Like the i7, the CPU is the only technically unsupported item.
1 machine is a 4th Gen desktop i7. Is has a TPM module but it is a 1.2 version, not 2.0.
1 machine is a 3rd Gen i5 (!). Does have a TPM 2.0 module.

I was able to successfully install Windows 11 on each and every one of these systems except the first one (the BIOS based system), without making ANY changes whatsoever. Just took a 100% unmodified Windows image on a thumb drive and do a clean install from it. I was a bit surprised at how easy this was.

My point here is that if you have some old hardware, don't be discouraged. At least give it a try and you may be surprised at the results. A couple of notes:

1) I would suggest making a backup of your current installation so that you can revert back easily.
2) Note that you will need at least a version 1.2 TPM. At least I had that going for me. I equip every machine I've built in the last decade with a TPM.
3) Expect this to work only with a clean install, NOT an upgrade.
For the bios based on you could try the rufus method. You can make a bootable usb from W11 iso for either uefi or legacy bios. I made the legacy bios usb and installed it on a 10" netbook with atom processor and 2gb ram. Runs really well! I had to find a graphics driver though.

See this thread

 

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Hazel123, thanks for the suggestion. I'm one of those people who likes to do as much as I can without third party tools. Besides, running one simple .reg or .bat file doesn't seem any more difficult to me.

I have to admit that there is one more reason I like to do all these things natively: It makes it easy to incorporate these steps into my own program.
 

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This is what i installed 11 on using a in place upgrade on. i used the microsoft recommended reg hack. and it works perfect got all the updates on patch tuesday . only tpm 1.2 and unsupported processor as you can see. No isssues with drivers either .
now if only the start menu fix was that easy lol

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Installed Win 11 tonight on System 2. First tried the MS reg hack and at the "acknowledgment" said no, which is what I intended but I did want to see it. Then went with deleting of the appraiserres.dll file method. Updated afterward and all runs well.

Edit: Should add that the system meets all other requirements except the CPU.
 

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