Thoughts on Windows 11

The Pool Man said:

Yes. I presumed you were trolling. And a recovering alcoholic.

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Then you should know better. But keep it up.. one day at a time.

Hazel123 said:

So that didn’t work. It is also happening on my Windows 10 computer now too. Done a bit of research and it is something that iPhone owners have had since August. Some have contacted Apple and Microsoft. One finally had confirmation from Microsoft that it is a bug in Windows. The only way round it at the moment is to use Microsoft photos to import the photos (not as intuitive as selecting individual files snd copying and pasting). If it’s just one photo you can email it from the phone and open it on the computer and download it from the email. As it’s now on 10 as well as 11 and only since August, just wondering if it’s something from a Windows update.

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That's odd. Bear in mind I've an old iPhone 7. All the fancy stuff turned off in the phone's camera app. Copy and paste works and I get the JPEG format. With Mobimover I get the HEIC format. Might be that you have a later iPhone model and Apple screws things up as they see fit.



That's on Win 11.

ThrashZone said:

Hi,
Win-11 still messing up permissions on other drives

Made 2 folders on a hdd for system images on one win-11 pro x299 system

Tried to create an image to that hdd on a different win-11 pro machine z490 and reflect winpe failed with write error lol

@Brink hate to bother you but this is some weird rubbish win-11 is doing could you test this ?
Hdd formated mbr/ ntfs/ primary pretty basic

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Hi there
Seems you are having really bad luck with W11.

I've found it very good so far if you just stick to the "Normal" type builds -- e.g 21H2 22000.282 and avoid the "pre-release" stuff if you expect "Beta" or not even "Alpha" grade software to behave as you would a "production machine". Perhaps so many people these days are too impatient to worry about QC or even elementary regression testing new builds are loaded on to commercial servers with the resultant chaos that results when these fail -- e.g Babks, UK health system , transport links, airline baggage, e-gates at passport controls in airports etc etc --whole slew of I.T systems failing and it's not all down to chinese or N.Korean hackers either --that's too convenient an excuse.

Use these builds on a VM first and expect errors -- I think the old saying was "If you don't like the heat stay out of the kitchen".

Current "standard" release W11 build is pretty good and stable so far even on "Non approved hardware"

Imaging with Macrium -- no problems at all -- try though on GPT HDD's although it really shouldn't make any difference if it's just writing an image file.

Use the stand alone bootable winpe version of macrium -- when creating the stand alone media you'll have better luck choosing the WIM to be used -- go to advanced and selece the WINPE version rather than the WINRE versions. Both macrium V7 and V8 are excellent for this -- V8 is currently a paid version but W7 is fine and the free version works as well.

Cheers
jimbo

Cbleman said:

Hmmm... Check your advanced sharing settings for password and permissions. I am running a server in my office connected to three mini fanless PCs attached to TVs for streaming and networking. I also have a laptop and a windows tablet on the network. I have no trouble creating folders on other machines, streaming files or working across the network. My issues are
1. Every time I get a windows update, the network crashes on the affected server or station and I cannot see other stations on the network.
2. Stations randomly drop off the network. Resetting the wireless adapter does not work. The network needs to be reset every time on the affected station(s)

These seem to be common problems with Win 10, even across business networks that are controlled by IT personnel a lot smarter than I am. MS is currently blaming security programs or third party software for the issues.

Since you need a password to get onto my network. I have disabled the need for a separate password to control files across the network. (If someone like me gets their hands on my router connected to the server, its all over anyway.) I also set the permissions to "Everyone" on all authorized devices on all networks, thus eliminating log on issues. Network discovery, Streaming and printing are enabled, and Automatic discovery is selected. This is a home network, and I have all my accounts locked and pass worded. This may be a small inconvenience, but nobody can break into my house and order anything from (lets say) my Amazon account on an open computer. Different operating systems cooperated when I was running seven and ten at the same time. I had no problems using different operating systems across the network. Hope this helped.

Publishing registry hacks is not a fix.
Bring back F8

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Hi there
for a server - especially if its only serving a small number of PC' for file sharing and streaming and not having to provide full Virtual Desktop infrastructure any old NAS type of box will do -- even an old PC -- just don't use Windows for that purpose -- and networking will be fine. You can run it headless 24/7 and it shouldn't crash wahtever updates are applied to the client PC. - For TV and video streaming you don't even need to "Serve" the media if the client PC's have say KODI or VLC installed on them.

As for Windows updates -- ever since Windows 3.11 Networking in Windows hasn't been its strong point. It's a lottery whether a windows update will work or not work on a PC first time. The whole security issue of SMB1 is also vastly overblown -- still plenty of non windows devices connrcted to networks that still need SMB1 so often the default if it changes on update or new installs can be an issue.

For Windows itself to SEND files (receiving files is OK) by any other means other than with bog standard file explorer via cut and paste you need to install the optional feature OPENSSH-SERVER and enable it in services to start automativally. Then you can use programs like filezilla which can use encrypted sftp protocol to send / receive files over networks which is much more secure than file explorer.

I have to say though messing around now with the latest "Standard" release of W11 with its update so now build 22000.282 seems finally to be behaving properly. I haven't been able to break anything yet !!! and I've messed around a bit with it - - tried as HYPER-V VM, a VMWARE VM and on a real machine which I created from a VMWARE VM using the macrium feature deploy to new hardware and "Fix boot". I've also separate language editions running as "Physical Virtual hard drives" which also work perfectly well so IMO Ms are finally on to a winner with this one -- I wouldn't though try the dev / beta releases -- especially on systems you want to do productive work on - they break - but that's what alpha / beta testing is supposed to do - test out new facilities, os kernel changes etc etc so I'm always surprised when there's a load of gripes when people find using one of those builds BSOD's.

Android works because it runs on a very specific set of hardware and Apple also rigidly control their hardware. One can run Windows on almost every conceivable device - and for the vast majority it just works.

Cheers
jimbo

I'm noticing one other thing that goes along with my previous post. When I click on the start button the start menu comes up, then I have to click twice for it to recognize my mouse is even there. But, like some others have said, running pre-released OS can be buggy so I'm not sweating it yet. I'm in the DEV channel so anything could go wrong at any moment.

jimbo45 said:

Hi there
Seems you are having really bad luck with W11.



Cheers
jimbo

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Hi,
Not really bad luck
It's just habit to isolate 10-11 from ms apps/ defender/ onedrive/..... and in doing so folder... permissions get privatized from my other machines to
I don't mind taking ownership on personal files if need be but this is the first time winpe couldn't write to a folder created in the os so not sure what taking ownership of a system image would actually do to winpe ability to restore those images.

So 11's issue is new since even 10 didn't privatize a folder that badly winpe would throw an error trying to add a system image inside a folder 11 created lol

I haven't seen it yet, I have 2 SSDs Installed in my computer, I will probably install one on each until all the bugs are sorted out, thats if I can remember how to dual boot I am 67 now and the old brain is not as fast to learn anymore.

Gerry5039 said:

I haven't seen it yet, I have 2 SSDs Installed in my computer, I will probably install one on each until all the bugs are sorted out, thats if I can remember how to dual boot I am 67 now and the old brain is not as fast to learn anymore.

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Hi,
Easiest way is to remove one os and install the other
After both are installed connect both
Use f8 for boot menu list and boot to which ever you want to use.

jimbo45 said:

Hi there
Seems you are having really bad luck with W11.

I've found it very good so far if you just stick to the "Normal" type builds -- e.g 21H2 22000.282 and avoid the "pre-release" stuff if you expect "Beta" or not even "Alpha" grade software to behave as you would a "production machine". Perhaps so many people these days are too impatient to worry about QC or even elementary regression testing new builds are loaded on to commercial servers with the resultant chaos that results when these fail -- e.g Babks, UK health system , transport links, airline baggage, e-gates at passport controls in airports etc etc --whole slew of I.T systems failing and it's not all down to chinese or N.Korean hackers either --that's too convenient an excuse.

Use these builds on a VM first and expect errors -- I think the old saying was "If you don't like the heat stay out of the kitchen".

Current "standard" release W11 build is pretty good and stable so far even on "Non approved hardware"

Imaging with Macrium -- no problems at all -- try though on GPT HDD's although it really shouldn't make any difference if it's just writing an image file.

Use the stand alone bootable winpe version of macrium -- when creating the stand alone media you'll have better luck choosing the WIM to be used -- go to advanced and selece the WINPE version rather than the WINRE versions. Both macrium V7 and V8 are excellent for this -- V8 is currently a paid version but W7 is fine and the free version works as well.

Cheers
jimbo

Hi there
for a server - especially if its only serving a small number of PC' for file sharing and streaming and not having to provide full Virtual Desktop infrastructure any old NAS type of box will do -- even an old PC -- just don't use Windows for that purpose -- and networking will be fine. You can run it headless 24/7 and it shouldn't crash wahtever updates are applied to the client PC. - For TV and video streaming you don't even need to "Serve" the media if the client PC's have say KODI or VLC installed on them.

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Thanks Jimbo,
I have been considering a NAS for quite some time, but didn't want to lay out the cash when I could attach an 18TB external to a fast computer, call it a server, and move or stream files over a blazing LAN. It looks like I need to get on the horse and spring for a NAS. I need the backup anyway, and a NAS will work better for my application than a RAID. I imagine that the one time expense would be worth the aggravation I save, and I can future proof it by doubling the storage that I actually need. I appreciate the advice.

I have both Kodi and VLC, but I live in a very rural area and have a slow internet connection. I'm lucky if I can get 720p across the WAN (and it buffers frequently). I solve this by recording my shows in 1080p and streaming them across the LAN. As the hard drive fills up, all I have to do is delete the shows that I have already watched. Yeah, I have to wait until the show is recorded, but I feel it's worth it.

BTW: Just for info: I already have the OpenSSH client and server installed. Good advice though, thanks. I also appreciate someone in the community filling me in about how networking in 11 is working. Like I said in a previous post, there ARE good points to 11. The networking fix alone may make it worth it not to wait to upgrade.

Publishing registry hacks is not a fix.
Bring back F8

Cbleman said:

I have been considering a NAS for quite some time, but didn't want to lay out the cash when I could attach an 18TB external to a fast computer, call it a server, and move or stream files over a blazing LAN.

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agree :) In my case not even a fast PC but a fanless '2009 Dell Mini 10v netbook, but it does the job well enough. Only bottleneck is the rather slow 10Mbps Ethernet port.

just one small correction NAS and RAID are not either or alternatives, indeed a lot of NAS systems incorporate RAID Arrays A NAS is basically an intelligent storage device (includes a processor to run server apps for content (movies, Audio or Data) and serves it to any device connected to the LAN.

A Raid [ RUDUNDANT ARRAY of INEXPENSIVE DISKS], is simply a method of producing a large storage pool for Data storage from a number of different smaller disks - There are a number of RAID layouts to cater for different speed and data redundancy requirements

Gerry5039 said:

I haven't seen it yet, I have 2 SSDs Installed in my computer, I will probably install one on each until all the bugs are sorted out, thats if I can remember how to dual boot I am 67 now and the old brain is not as fast to learn anymore.

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hehe ...and faster to forget! I know what you mean. I'm 65, used to be a Batch File Programmer (now there's an oxymoron.), and had every command line function memorized. It sucks that I now have to sit there for ten minutes trying to remember what that command line function I need is.

Thanks Barman, you are absolutely right. The NAS that I would get would incorporate a RAID, as opposed to a RAID with no NAS.
As for inexpensive... has anyone priced Enterprise drives lately? :)

I've been using Seagate Ironwolf drives Good value and designed for always on usage, though I use them in pairs in desktops

barman58 said:

I've been using Seagate Ironwolf drives Good value and designed for always on usage, though I use them in desktops

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01M1BUBSO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Thank you for the link. I don't know why, but I have always preferred Seagate drives over WD. I bookmarked the link.

Edit: 200GBP (275USD) for a six? They have gone up a lot in thirty days!

Hi folks

@Cbleman

You don't need enterprise HDD's for Home use -- even old slower HDD's are reasonably reliable these days - and if you have a few old ones don't chuck them - they can be used in an external USB 4 or even 2 bay RAID array with the box set to RAID0 - JBOD option --"Just a bunch of Disks" so the OS sees one big disk !! Device can be connected via USB2 (better USB3/3.1) or to an esata connector -- use a card though if doing it that way rather than from the MOBO.

For a NAS -- any old computer will do - you don't need to get an expensive dedicated NAS server. For maximum storage attach a USB 4-bay enclosure -- the decent ones have built in RAID -- if you select one variant of RAID 0 (Just a bunch of Disks) you can use old HDD's in it and the total storage will be the combined total storage of all the HDD's - they can be of different sizes -- this is a good choice :

Icybox External 4-Bay RAID Enclosure for 4 x 3.5 inch SATA l/ll/lll HDDs​

Check on Amazon etc or prices etc. Different jurisdictions have different sales / other taxes so you have to check locally for the best offers.

Streaming via a LAN is a great way if your Internet connection is poor and you can record programs, and watch them later.

On the old computer (even one with only BIOS and 2 GB of storage) will work for a NAS -- simply install any Linux distro on it -- with or without a GUI, add SAMBA (for file sharing) add guest account for access to the drives and you are in business --it can run 24/7 even headless. The problem with using Windows is that windows will sometimes want to do updates or want some answer from the console, and if you logoff then connected drives are unavilable too. With the Linux NAS any smart TV or things like ROKU / Amazon firesticks can access the shared files via the GUEST account even when nobody is logged on. You don't need to start any media server either on the NAS.

To install KODI on a firestick : (probably similar on ROKU type of device too) --you'll need the relevant handset and the device plugged in to an HDMI slot on your TV.

1) from settings enable developer options
2) enable the adb also from the settings
3) install the downloader app (it's on the amazon applications area -- just search in home and then install it
4) in the downloader go to "http://www.kodi.tv/downloads" - i've put the quotes here to show the text rather than the url being expanded
5) choose ANDROID (picture of the robot)
6) scroll down and choose one of the ARM versions -- currently the best results with rel 19.3 Matrix is to select the 32 bit version
7) install and follow the screen options.
8) depending on your NAS server once KODI is started on your device you might need to alter the Windows security -- for older NAS boxes set min security to SMBV1 and Max security also to SMBV1. (All within the KODI settings).
9) now add your NAS server to the video / music options.

If you want to enable subtitling add opensubtitles.org from the repository (addons) . Then configure it with your userid and password (for opensubtitles.org), Reboot the firestick. -- note other subtitle services are available too -- I find opensubtitles.org simple and just works.

When watching a program you can dynamically download subtitles - it's pretty much automatic and foolproof.

Now you're done -- enjoy !!

(Backups of data held on NAS still need to be done of course -- however that's a strategy for individual users. - The rsync program plus the GUI version if you want a GUI - GRSYNC are excellent for making backups / archives. Ensure ntfs-3g is installed as well to have read / write access to Windows files if wanted and ssh for command line connection from windows etc.)

Cheers
jimbo

barman58 said:

I've been using Seagate Ironwolf drives Good value and designed for always on usage, though I use them in pairs in desktops

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01M1BUBSO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Cbleman said:

Thank you for the link. I don't know why, but I have always preferred Seagate drives over WD. I bookmarked the link.

Edit: 200GBP (275USD) for a six? They have gone up a lot in thirty days!

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I'm running a Western Digital 4-bay NAS with 4 Western Digital Red Pro drives (6TB each). Running in RAID 10. The box has been running 24/7/365 since I bough the kit back in April of 2019.

I myself have been using Western Digital HDD drives since my first PC back in 1998. In fact, I still have some old IDE WD drives that still work.

Anyway, we all have our preferences but for me Western Digital HDDs drives are it. They've simply not given me reason to look elsewhere.

That's me.

barman58 said:

I've been using Seagate Ironwolf drives Good value and designed for always on usage, though I use them in pairs in desktops

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01M1BUBSO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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I am using Ironwolf pro too (same acoustic level as non-pro). I have it in an external hot plugin docking enclosure and they are off most of the time - they are significantly louder than disks designed for desktops.

AddRAM said:

All easily fixed.
Just visit the Tutorial section.

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Probably the best advice I've received all day. Hopefully, I can plow through the ADD and get trough all I need.
And a big thank you to whoever decided they should not (or not all--I haven't looked at all yet) be videos. They are so much harder for me to focus on than the written word. I will manage to get through those I need most.

hdmi said:

As a trained software developer, asking for input for the design is of vital importance, in fact it is what I do for a living.

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I think it's unlikely that you have 5 Billion users like Windows does, so you would get conflicting input on the design. Everyone will have their own idea of what it should be, and you won't be able to please everyone, because pleasing one person will annoy someone else.

I can agree wholeheartedly with that, I usually have dealt with managing Fifty to one hundred systems, and their users and that can be a classic free for all. The worst situation is when a board member or owner is the only one who wants some insignificant setup change that makes things easier for them but worse for everyone else - obviously Microsoft does not have that specific issue.

The largest "Job" I was involved with was involving a company with systems including 7000 Seats and offshore servers and remote users. with that one it was a long process just getting enough of the Board and Managers to agree any direction to make a plan to discuss in detail.

Of course Microsoft's issues are magnified many fold, but even more so when you consider the variations in the hardware they have to support, at least with my issues I did have some control over hardware