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GrayOldman1

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I have a Windows 11 Pc and have shut it down by going to the windows icon and shutting it down by the menu. Now question is using the power button for shut down? Yes or No or it does the same thing?
 
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It does just that on my PCs. If you go to control panel -> power options you can choose what the power button does.
 

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Either will work, but just food for thought on any OS...

"Generally, a graceful shutdown is preferable in the case of any OS that saves its state. When the standard shutdown procedures are not done with these OSs, the result can be data corruption of program and operating system files. The result of the corruption can be instability, incorrect functioning or failure to boot."

Source
 

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Either will work, but just food for thought on any OS...

"Generally, a graceful shutdown is preferable.....

Only pressing and holding the power button performs a hard shut down.

question is using the power button for shut down? Yes or No or it does the same thing?

Yes. Just pressing it should start an orderly shut down as long as you have it set that way in Control Panel.


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Only pressing and holding the power button performs a hard shut down.



Yes. Just pressing it should start an orderly shut down as long as you have it set that way in Control Panel.

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Thank you, Bree.

Your insight is always appreciated. ;)
 

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Either will work, but just food for thought on any OS...

"Generally, a graceful shutdown is preferable in the case of any OS that saves its state. When the standard shutdown procedures are not done with these OSs, the result can be data corruption of program and operating system files. The result of the corruption can be instability, incorrect functioning or failure to boot."

Source
I cannot remember the last time a forced shutdown did any serious damage - the worst is loss of data in any programs open at the time.

Loads of people deify XP or W7, but the later versions are much more robust in a forced shutdown.

Even in cases of updates sitting there for ever, and eventually you do a forced shutdown, I cannot remember last time anything serious happened - worst case is it redownloads the updates again. Of course, I do not recommend this as normal practice LOL.
 

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I cannot remember the last time a forced shutdown did any serious damage - the worst is loss of data in any programs open at the time.

Loads of people deify XP or W7, but the later versions are much more robust in a forced shutdown.

Even in cases of updates sitting there for ever, and eventually you do a forced shutdown, I cannot remember last time anything serious happened - worst case is it redownloads the updates again. Of course, I do not recommend this as normal practice LOL.


Thank you, cereberus.

I too have forced shutdown a few times, and never had an issue (personally). I agree that there is the possibility of losing data in any open program. I have been fortunate not to have had that happen.

I appreciate you sharing your knowledge, with me/us.

(y)


Second and even third opinions, are always good. ;)
 

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I recall the days of Windows 95. You could mess up things if not shut down the right way. My kids were good out messing it up. Their answer was when we used the Commodore 64 or 128 we just shut it off. It should be the same. Ah the days of loading MSDOS.
 

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Computers I have had are Ti-99A, Commodore 64(2) Original IBM PC with 2 floppies drives. Commodore 128, PC base 286, 386 cpu, Compaq 386 with internal DSL modem.
A number of other computers, and now my last one.(I think)
Probably the most useful shortcut since Windows 8:
Code:
shutdown /s /f /t 0
This will tell me, what is causing shutdown to hang:
Code:
reg add "HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System" /v "VerboseStatus" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /f
 

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I have the other question, is it really needed to completely shut the laptop completely down? I usually just close it when I am done, and either plug it into the charger, or depending on the amount of charge just leave it until I am ready or need to use it again. usually only restart if an update requires it.
 

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