Updating Microsoft Secure Boot keys before expiration in June 2026



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 Windows IT Pro Blog:

Secure Boot playbook for certificates expiring in 2026

The first set of tools and steps are now available to help you proactively update your Secure Boot certificates before they expire in June of 2026.

Secure Boot is more mature and robust today than it was some years ago. Coupled with the Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) firmware signing process, Secure Boot uses cryptographic keys, known as certificate authorities (CAs), to validate that firmware modules come from a trusted source. This helps prevent malware from running early in the startup sequence of a Windows device.

Secure Boot certificates have always had expiration dates. New certificates help ensure that your devices stay up to date with the latest security protections. That is why your organization will need to install the 2023 CAs before the 2011 CAs start expiring in June of 2026.

Note: Need a refresher on why updating Secure Boot certificates is so important?
Many Windows PCs manufactured since 2024 already have the updated 2023 certificates. For the remaining devices, Microsoft is delivering new Secure Boot certificates through Windows monthly updates, with partner original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) making firmware updates available to help ensure compatibility.

If you wish to proactively update your Secure Boot certificates, this post contains initial steps you can take and tools you can use, with more scalable approaches coming soon. At a minimum, we encourage you to monitor the progress of your device fleet from the start.

Let’s get started. Here’s a summary of what you can do today to prepare:
  • Step 1: Inventory and prepare your environment
  • Step 2: Monitor and check your devices for Secure Boot status
  • Step 3: Apply OEM firmware updates before Microsoft updates
  • Step 4: Plan and pilot Secure Boot certificate deployments
  • Step 5: Troubleshoot and remediate common issues

Step 1: Inventory and prepare your environment​

For most devices in your organization, Microsoft will automatically update high-confidence devices via Windows Update. However, you can validate and actively roll out these updates, in which case, you would start by conducting an inventory.

Inventory

Most devices manufactured since 2012 have Secure Boot enabled, but you should always verify that. You should also check the status of the Secure Boot certificates with sample inventory PowerShell commands or by checking the value of the UEFICA2023Status registry key (it should ultimately be “updated”). Out of the devices that show up as not updated, build a small, representative sample. We recommend that you focus on the less common devices, for which high confidence determination isn’t automatic. Then follow the rest of the steps outlined in this post to pilot the certificate updates and help ensure that deployment is successful

Prepare select devices

To prepare devices for Secure Boot certificate deployment, consider how you’ll manage it. There are several approaches to managing Secure Boot certificate updates. Today, you can use registry keys or Group Policy. A Configuration Service Provider (CSP) for mobile device management (MDM), such as Microsoft Intune, is coming soon. Bookmark Windows Secure Boot certificate expiration and CA updates - Microsoft Support for the latest updates.
  1. The primary method is to deploy the certificates to devices that have been validated as ready for the update. See Step 4 when you’re ready to deploy these updates!
  2. For the more common device configurations in your environment, you can utilize two “assists” to manage your deployment:
    • Get new certificates through monthly Windows updates for high-confidence devices. This option is enabled by default for devices that are ready for new certificates. Microsoft will update these devices for you unless you opt out. To opt out, set the HighConfidenceOptOut registry key<a href="Secure Boot playbook for certificates expiring in 2026 - Windows IT Pro Blog" target="_self" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">ii</a> value to 1 or set the Automatic Certificate Deployment via Updates Group Policy to Disabled.
    • Opt devices in to Microsoft-managed controlled feature rollout. With registry keys, set the value of MicrosoftUpdateManagedOptIn to 1 to opt in to Microsoft-managed controlled feature rollout. The value of 0 or non-existent key means that you’re opted out. With Group Policy, configure the Certificate Deployment via Controlled Feature Rollout policy to Enabled. Note: To opt in, please configure devices to share required diagnostic data with Microsoft.
Important: All Secure Boot registry keys are under these two paths:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SecureBoot
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SecureBoot\Servicing


See Registry key updates for Secure Boot: Windows devices with IT-managed updates for more details.

Group Policy settings are available to you under the following path: Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Secure Boot. To get the updates that include the Group Policy for deploying Secure Boot certificate updates, download the latest Administrative Templates (.admx) for Windows 11 and Windows Server.

Step 2: Monitor and check your devices for Secure Boot status​

Check the Secure Boot status of your devices before and after deployment. Soon, you will be able to use your preferred management and reporting tools. For now, you can use registry keys or Windows Event Log events to identify which devices already have new certificates and which ones need attention.

Deployment progress

The text value of the UEFICA2023Status registry key will indicate if your certificate deployment status is not started, in progress, or updated. The value will change progressively until all new certificates and the new boot manager have been deployed successfully.

Successful deployment
  • Audit the Windows System Event Log events for Event ID 1808. This informational event indicates that the device has the required new Secure Boot certificates applied to the device’s firmware.
  • Audit the UEFICA2023Error registry key for issues. This key should not exist unless an error is pending.
  • Check that the text value of the UEFICA2023Status registry key reads as “Updated.”
Errors during deployment
  • Audit the Windows System Event Log for Event ID 1801.This error event indicates that the updated certificates have not been applied to the device. Analyze details specific to the device, including device attributes, that will help you in correlating which devices still need updating.
  • Check if the UEFICA2023Error registry key exists. If so, it indicates an error in certificate deployment. The error itself won’t appear in the Event Log. Trace related issues through Secure Boot DB and DBX variable update events.

Step 3: Apply OEM firmware updates before Microsoft updates​

Updated firmware can help prevent compatibility problems and ensure new Secure Boot certificates are accepted. If your organization has identified Secure Boot update issues or your OEM recommends a firmware update, apply the latest BIOS/UEFI update before installing Secure Boot–related Windows updates.

Some OEMs provide firmware updates that include important fixes and updated certificate stores. These updates help Secure Boot function correctly with new Windows certificates. Microsoft works closely with OEM partners to ensure these updates integrate smoothly with Windows.

Step 4: Plan and pilot Secure Boot certificate deployments​

As you’ve seen in Step 1, Microsoft can assist with your Secure Boot updates if you enable diagnostic data.

You can also deploy new Secure Boot certificates yourself for devices that don’t already have them. Choose a way to do this with registry keys, via Windows Configuration System (WinCS) command-line interface (CLI), or using Group Policy today. Pilot your desired method first on a representative set of devices to gain confidence.

In a typical enterprise deployment, whatever option you choose, allow approximately 48 hours and one or more restarts after changing configuration for updates to fully apply. See How updates are deployed for more details. For testing scenarios, you can accelerate the experience by following the steps outlined in Device Testing Using Registry Keys.

Important: Avoid mixing deployment methods on the same device. For additional technical recommendations to help you plan and deploy your Secure Boot updates, see Deployment strategies.

Option 1: Deploy certificates with registry keys​

Find the AvailableUpdates registry key located under this registry path:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SecureBoot

Set its value to 0x5944 to deploy all needed certificates and update to the Windows UEFI CA 2023 signed boot manager. This key corresponds to the Group Policy setting Enable Secure Boot certificate deployment. For details, see Registry key updates for Secure Boot: Windows devices with IT-managed updates.

Option 2: Deploy certificates via Windows Configuration System (WinCS)​

New command-line tools are now available for domain-joined clients on Windows 11, versions 25H2, 24H2, and 23H2.

These include both a traditional executable and a PowerShell module to query and apply Secure Boot configurations locally to a device. For step-by-step guidance, see Windows Configuration System (WinCS) APIs for Secure Boot.

Deploy the Secure Boot updates via WinCS:
  • Feature name: Feature_AllKeysAndBootMgrByWinCS
  • WinCS key value: F33E0C8E002
  • Secure Boot configuration state: Enabled

Option 3: Deploy certificates using Group Policy​

Group Policy settings are available by navigating to Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Secure Boot.

To apply Secure Boot updates to devices using Group Policy, set the Enable Secure Boot certificate deployment policy to Enabled. This lets Windows automatically begin the certificate deployment process. This setting corresponds to the registry key AvailableUpdates.

Be sure to get the latest version of the .admx for Windows 11 and Windows Server. For more details, see Group Policy Objects (GPO) method of Secure Boot for Windows devices with IT-managed updates.

Option 4: Deploy certificates using mobile device management (coming soon)​

Soon, you’ll be able to manage Secure Boot updates using MDM solutions, such as Microsoft Intune. When this method is available, we will post updated guidance at Windows Secure Boot certificate expiration and CA updates - Microsoft Support.

Step 5. Troubleshoot and remediate common issues​

You can also use registry keys and Windows Event Log events to identify and resolve common issues:
  • The UEFICA2023Error registry key doesn’t exist if there are no errors. If it exists with a value other than 0, check your remediation recommendations in Secure Boot DB and DBX variable update events.
  • The AvailableUpdates registry key on a device is set to 0x4104. If it doesn’t clear the 0x0004 bit even after multiple restarts, the device doesn’t progress past deploying the new Key Exchange Key (KEK) certificate. If you encounter this error, check with your OEM to confirm they have followed the steps outlined in Windows Secure Boot Key Creation and Management Guidance.
  • If Event Viewer Windows Logs for System registers an Event ID 1795, it means that there was an error when Windows attempted to hand off the certificates to firmware. Check with the OEM to see if there is a firmware update available for the device to resolve this issue.

Your update strategy begins today​

Today, you can start preparing, monitoring, deploying, and troubleshooting Secure Boot certificates in advance of the June 2026 expiration date. The new registry keys, WinCS, Group Policy, and Windows Log tools are here to support you and are just the beginning. More tools for additional scenarios are in development.

For the latest information, bookmark Windows Secure Boot certificate expiration and CA updates. Looking for a specific topic?

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 Windows IT Pro Blog:

Updating Microsoft Secure Boot keys​

Microsoft, in collaboration with our ecosystem partners, is preparing to roll out replacement certificates that’ll set new Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) Certificate Authorities (CAs) trust anchors in Secure Boot for the future. Look out for Secure Boot database updates rolling out in phases to add trust for the new database (DB) and Key Exchange Key (KEK) certificates. This new DB update is available as an optional servicing update for all Secure Boot enabled devices from February 13, 2024.

What is Secure Boot?​

Secure Boot is a security feature in the UEFI that helps ensure that only trusted software runs during the system’s boot sequence. It works by verifying the digital signature of any software against a set of trusted digital keys stored in the UEFI. As an industry standard, UEFI’s Secure Boot defines how platform firmware manages certificates, authenticates firmware, and how the operating system (OS) interfaces with this process. For more details on UEFI and Secure Boot, please refer to this article.

Secure Boot was first introduced to Windows systems with the Windows 8 release to protect against the emerging pre-boot malware (bootkit) threat at that time. Since then, Secure Boot has continued to be a part of Microsoft's Trusted Boot security architecture. Secure Boot authenticates modules such as UEFI firmware drivers, bootloaders, applications, and option ROMs (Read-Only Memory), which are firmware run by the PC BIOS during platform initialization, before they are all executed. As the final step of the Secure Boot process, the firmware verifies the Windows boot loader is trusted by Secure Boot and then passes control to the boot loader which in turn verifies, loads into memory, and launches Windows. This process coupled with the UEFI firmware signing process helps to ensure that only verified code executes before Windows, preventing attackers from utilizing the boot path as an attack vector. To learn more about how Secure Boot fits in with the overall Windows chip-t-cloud security, please refer to the Windows Security Book RWMyFE.

Trust and authenticity in Secure Boot are built using the Public-Key Infrastructure (PKI). This establishes a certificate management system which utilizes CAs to store digital certificates. These CAs, consisting of Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) or their delegates and Microsoft, generate key pairs that form the root of trust of a system.

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Secure Boot “root of trust”: Setting trust anchors for the future​

Secure Boot’s root of trust utilizes a hierarchical system, where the Platform Key (PK) is typically managed by the OEM and used to sign updates to the KEK database. The KEK in turn signs updates to both the Allowed Signature DB and the Forbidden Signature Database (DBX).

The Secure Boot Allowed Signature DB and the DBX are integral to the functionality of Secure Boot. Bootloader modules’ signing authority must be allowlisted by the Secure Boot DB, while the DBX is used for revoking previously trusted boot components. Updates to the DB and DBX must be signed by a KEK in the Secure Boot KEK database.

The configuration of Secure Boot DB and KEK for Windows devices has remained the same since Windows 8. Microsoft requires every OEM to include the same three certificates managed by Microsoft for Windows and in support of the third-party hardware and OS ecosystem. These include the Microsoft Corporation KEK CA 2011 stored in the KEK database, and two certificates stored in the DB called the Microsoft Windows Production PCA 2011, which signs the Windows bootloader, and the Microsoft UEFI CA 2011 (or third-party UEFI CA), which signs third-party OS and hardware driver components.

All three of these Microsoft certificates expire in 2026. So, in collaboration with our ecosystem partners, Microsoft is preparing to roll out replacement certificates that will set new UEFI CA trust anchors for the future. Microsoft will be rolling out Secure Boot database updates in phases to add trust for the new DB and KEK certificates. The first DB update will add the Microsoft Windows UEFI CA 2023 to the system DB. The new Microsoft Windows UEFI CA 2023 will be used to sign Windows boot components prior to the expiration of the Windows Production CA 2011. This DB update will be optional for the February 2024 servicing and preview updates, and can be manually applied to devices. Microsoft will slowly roll out this DB update as we validate devices and firmware compatibility globally. The full DB update’s controlled-rollout process to all Windows customers will begin during the 2024 April servicing and preview updates, ahead of the certificate expiration in 2026. Meanwhile, efforts to update the Microsoft UEFI CA 2011 (aka third-party UEFI CA) and Microsoft Corporation KEK CA 2011 will begin late 2024, and will follow a similar controlled rollout process as this DB update.

While Microsoft has frequently performed DBX updates globally since the inception of Secure Boot, this will be the first DB update performed on such a large scale. We’re actively collaborating with our OEM partners to identify and address bugs in firmware implementation that could result in unbootable systems or render a device unreceptive to the DB update. To ensure a successful rollout, devices with identified issues will be suspended from receiving the update until a fix is released.

Microsoft is taking a very deliberate and cautious approach to rolling out this update. With this DB update, Microsoft will sustain its ability to service all Windows devices’ boot components.

Guidance to manually apply DB update​

The DB update is available on February 13, 2024, along with manual steps to allow customers to test for firmware compatibility, especially for organizations with fleets of devices. If you would like to manually apply the DB update to validate that your system is compatible, please read the following instructions. These actions should be completed with non-critical hardware representing devices in your environment.

Pre-requisite checks​

Before attempting the DB update, please ensure to perform the necessary pre-requisite checks:
  1. If you intend to manually apply this update to a large group of devices, we advise that you begin by rolling out to individual devices with the same firmware and specifications first to minimize the risks in the case of firmware bugs in your devices.
  2. Please verify that your UEFI firmware version is the most recent available version by your firmware vendor or OEM.
  3. For data backup steps, please refer to this guide.
  4. If you use BitLocker or if your enterprise has deployed BitLocker on your machine, ensure to backup BitLocker Keys:


    A) See this portal to ensure your BitLocker keys are backed up before your next reboot for your selfhost device. In the unlikely event that device becomes inoperable after receiving the update, the hard drive can still be unlocked.

    B) If the keys are backed up, the UI should resemble the following:

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    C) If the keys are not backed up, please open Windows Search to search for “Manage BitLocker” and select Back up your recovery key followed by Save to your Azure AD or MSA account.

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For users that use a local account instead of an Azure Active Directory (AAD) or Microsoft account (MSA), you can print your recovery password, save to a file, and store it in a secure location.


 Formal DB update steps

  1. Apply the February 2024 (or later) security update.
  2. Open a PowerShell console and ensure that PowerShell is running as an administrator before running the following commands:
    1. Set the registry key to:

      Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKLM:\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SecureBoot" -Name "AvailableUpdates" -Value 0x40
    2. Run the following scheduled task as:

      Start-ScheduledTask -TaskName "\Microsoft\Windows\PI\Secure-Boot-Update"
  3. Reboot the machine twice after running these commands to confirm that the machine is booting with the updated DB.
  4. To verify that the Secure Boot DB update was successful, open a PowerShell console and ensure that PowerShell is running as an administrator before running the following command:

    [System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes) -match ‘Windows UEFI CA 2023’

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If the command returns “True”, the update was successful. In the case of errors while applying the DB update, please refer to the article, KB5016061: Addressing vulnerable and revoked Boot Managers.


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Mosby mentions in the readme to set the secure boot into Setup Mode. How about disabling secure boot? That also enables the app to update this on your BIOS? Or has to be setup mode only? How about Manufacturers like HP? I believe they only allow enable or disable, any pointers in that?
For Mosby, you need to disable Secure Boot and put Secure Boot in setup mode, both.
Exit the BIOS, launch the Mosby USB key, apply the keys, exit Mosby, enter the BIOS to put Secure Boot back in normal mode and enable Secure Boot.

I don't know how to put an HP computer into setup mode. You have to Google the part number/brand of the retail motherboard or the OEM computer to find out how to enter setup mode.

In this thread, someone indicates that HP does not recommend manually (using the Microsoft guide) installing the 2023 certificate keys and waiting for updates:

In this Microsoft link, in the known issues section, there is a problem with HP computers with Sure Start Security; these computers require the latest firmware (BIOS): How to manage the Windows Boot Manager revocations for Secure Boot changes associated with CVE-2023-24932 - Microsoft Support
 

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Run this batch script. If you're not Administrator, it will ask for permission to run. It runs on all Windows systems going back to W7.
Don't mind the messy coding, I glued it together from borrowed code.

What you want to see is:


Sad panda 🐼:
Code:
Your UEFI's Platform Key is NOT supported by MS.  You may need to run Mosby.

UPDATE: Replaced script with more reliable version. But it only runs on W10/11.
Why do I get different results with the old and new batch file for the same system?

With the first version of the script...

1759094054203.webp

With version 2 of the script...

1759094092373.webp
 

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The first script polls UEFI variable PKdefault, and the 2nd one polls PK. Each script borrows a different method for reading these values.

What the script does, is look for your PK's thumbprint value (if it exists) and checks if MS has that key registered in the GitHub. If there's a match, it means the OEM is working with MS. Without a match, it means you're probably on your own for enrolling KEK CA 2023 (thru the BIOS menu).
 

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The first script polls UEFI variable PKdefault, and the 2nd one polls PK. Each script borrows a different method for reading these values.

What the script does, is look for your PK's thumbprint value (if it exists) and checks if MS has that key registered in the GitHub. If there's a match, it means the OEM is working with MS. Without a match, it means you're probably on your own for enrolling KEK CA 2023 (thru the BIOS menu).
Oddly, this is a Gigabyte motherboard, and the 2023 certificates were added by them in a BIOS upgrade. Maybe running MOSBY changed the PK and made it look like it was not compatible.
 

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Enter BIOS and check the PK settings (pretend you're deleting it), is there one or two keys registered?
 

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For Mosby, you need to disable Secure Boot and put Secure Boot in setup mode, both.
Exit the BIOS, launch the Mosby USB key, apply the keys, exit Mosby, enter the BIOS to put Secure Boot back in normal mode and enable Secure Boot.

I don't know how to put an HP computer into setup mode. You have to Google the part number/brand of the retail motherboard or the OEM computer to find out how to enter setup mode.

In this thread, someone indicates that HP does not recommend manually (using the Microsoft guide) installing the 2023 certificate keys and waiting for updates:

In this Microsoft link, in the known issues section, there is a problem with HP computers with Sure Start Security; these computers require the latest firmware (BIOS): How to manage the Windows Boot Manager revocations for Secure Boot changes associated with CVE-2023-24932 - Microsoft Support
Apparently, Pavillions aren't on the list...

I have an update pending, F.06, for BIOS in HP support assistant... but it's unknown because manufacturers love to hide info, if this brings updates to this mess or not...
 

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Is HP Support Assistant an application?

Check your computer's drivers page to see if there's any information for this BIOS.
Yup, it's an app included in this laptop to check for driver updates. HP's webpage is another animal, seems they have a F.08 BIOS instead of this one... I'm unsure why they have different stuff... and much less if they have the new certs included...

F.08 says it's just "System stability improvements"

It's lovely the info you get from this people... manufacturers these days suck big time.
 

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    Manufacturer/Model
    Built PC
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G @ 3.9/4.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    MSI B550M-PRO-WiFi Ver. 1.4
    Memory
    2 x 16 GB DDR4 Kingston Fury Beast 3200 Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT MSI Mech 2X OC Edition 8 GB
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (Integrated)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung C50Rx 27" LED / HP S2031 20" LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 px / 1600 x 900 px
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SN570 NVME M.2 SSD [1 TB] -- External Drives: - WD Scorpion Blue 250 GB 5400 RPM (Data Backup) - Hitachi 500 GB 5400 RPM (Software / ISOs Backup) - Toshiba MQ01ABD100 1 TB 5400 RPM (OS Images) - HGST TravelStar 7K1000 1 TB, 7200 RPM USB 3.0 - ADATA SU800 2TB SSD USB 3.0
    PSU
    Corsair RM750e 750W Fully Modular
    Case
    Naceb Hydra NA-1602
    Cooling
    Naceb Orpheus x 3 (Front) + Naceb Cepheus 1200 RPM Max (Rear) + ThemalRight Assasin X 90 SE (CPU)
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK470 Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech MK470 Wireless
    Internet Speed
    120 MB Symetrical
    Browser
    Firefox / Brave / Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    - VMs: WMware Player - Windows 8.1 Pro x64 / Windows 11 Pro
    - Wacom Intuos Pro Small Tablet PTH-460
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 15-eh3000la (80M53LA)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 7730U @ 2.0/4.5 Ghz
    Motherboard
    HP 8BC7
    Memory
    2 x 16 GB Kingston Fury Impact DDR4 3200 Mhz
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon (tm) Graphics Vega 8 (512 MB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (Integrated)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AU Optronics
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 px (125% size)
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SN570 1TB NVME M.2 Drive
    PSU
    45 Watt Charger
    Cooling
    Laptop Cooling Pad
    Keyboard
    Free Wolf Foldable Portable Keyboard
    Mouse
    Free Wolf Wireless Mouse
    Internet Speed
    120 MB Symetrical
    Browser
    Firefox / Brave / Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    - 41mWh battery.
    - Wacom Intuos Pro Small Tablet PTH-460
Yup, it's an app included in this laptop to check for driver updates. HP's webpage is another animal, seems they have a F.08 BIOS instead of this one... I'm unsure why they have different stuff... and much less if they have the new certs included...

F.08 says it's just "System stability improvements"

It's lovely the info you get from this people... manufacturers these days suck big time.
This doesn't surprise me; I know from experience that driver/BIOS update applications aren't 100% reliable. You always have to manually search for drivers and BIOSes on the computer's or motherboard's website.

Have you tried this script to see if you have 2023 keys in Secure Boot?

Do it before and after updating the BIOS (if you update it).

To launch it, first create a temp folder at the root of c:\ place the script in the temp folder and type these commands in PowerShell as administrator:

cd c:\temp

powershell -nop -ep bypass -f Check_EFIBootFile.ps1
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11
This doesn't surprise me; I know from experience that driver/BIOS update applications aren't 100% reliable. You always have to manually search for drivers and BIOSes on the computer's or motherboard's website.

Have you tried this script to see if you have 2023 keys in Secure Boot?

Do it before and after updating the BIOS (if you update it).

To launch it, first create a temp folder at the root of c:\ place the script in the temp folder and type these commands in PowerShell as administrator:

cd c:\temp

powershell -nop -ep bypass -f Check_EFIBootFile.ps1
Apparently I didn't, I just have one CA 2023 cert after using just some powershell commands, but I still have all the 2011 ones.
I just wish they said they are adding the certs in any of those updates, I hate messing with BIOS updates. It's a thing I respect a lot and not play with it frequently... you know, devastating results if you mess up...
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built PC
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G @ 3.9/4.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    MSI B550M-PRO-WiFi Ver. 1.4
    Memory
    2 x 16 GB DDR4 Kingston Fury Beast 3200 Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT MSI Mech 2X OC Edition 8 GB
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (Integrated)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung C50Rx 27" LED / HP S2031 20" LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 px / 1600 x 900 px
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SN570 NVME M.2 SSD [1 TB] -- External Drives: - WD Scorpion Blue 250 GB 5400 RPM (Data Backup) - Hitachi 500 GB 5400 RPM (Software / ISOs Backup) - Toshiba MQ01ABD100 1 TB 5400 RPM (OS Images) - HGST TravelStar 7K1000 1 TB, 7200 RPM USB 3.0 - ADATA SU800 2TB SSD USB 3.0
    PSU
    Corsair RM750e 750W Fully Modular
    Case
    Naceb Hydra NA-1602
    Cooling
    Naceb Orpheus x 3 (Front) + Naceb Cepheus 1200 RPM Max (Rear) + ThemalRight Assasin X 90 SE (CPU)
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK470 Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech MK470 Wireless
    Internet Speed
    120 MB Symetrical
    Browser
    Firefox / Brave / Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    - VMs: WMware Player - Windows 8.1 Pro x64 / Windows 11 Pro
    - Wacom Intuos Pro Small Tablet PTH-460
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 15-eh3000la (80M53LA)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 7730U @ 2.0/4.5 Ghz
    Motherboard
    HP 8BC7
    Memory
    2 x 16 GB Kingston Fury Impact DDR4 3200 Mhz
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon (tm) Graphics Vega 8 (512 MB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (Integrated)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AU Optronics
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 px (125% size)
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SN570 1TB NVME M.2 Drive
    PSU
    45 Watt Charger
    Cooling
    Laptop Cooling Pad
    Keyboard
    Free Wolf Foldable Portable Keyboard
    Mouse
    Free Wolf Wireless Mouse
    Internet Speed
    120 MB Symetrical
    Browser
    Firefox / Brave / Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    - 41mWh battery.
    - Wacom Intuos Pro Small Tablet PTH-460
Apparently I didn't, I just have one CA 2023 cert after using just some powershell commands, but I still have all the 2011 ones.
I just wish they said they are adding the certs in any of those updates, I hate messing with BIOS updates. It's a thing I respect a lot and not play with it frequently... you know, devastating results if you mess up...
Do as you wish.
For my MSI motherboard, there are beta BIOSes that aren't labeled as beta. To identify them, the last number doesn't end with 0. MSI has released beta BIOSes several times, withdrawn them a few days later, then re-released a beta BIOS and withdrawn it shortly afterward.

Under these conditions, I stop installing beta BIOSes and wait for the stable BIOSes. I'm not a beta tester who will have to RMA the motherboard because of MSI errors.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11
Do as you wish.
For my MSI motherboard, there are beta BIOSes that aren't labeled as beta. To identify them, the last number doesn't end with 0. MSI has released beta BIOSes several times, withdrawn them a few days later, then re-released a beta BIOS and withdrawn it shortly afterward.

Under these conditions, I stop installing beta BIOSes and wait for the stable BIOSes. I'm not a beta tester who will have to RMA the motherboard because of MSI errors.
Exactly my point... I need to do my job in these PC's. That's why I feel this is all a huge mess, without clear info or updates.

It would be easier if they just went with "Cert Update for Secure Boot" or "We fix A and B"
Bricking any of my PC's would be the apocalypse for me...
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built PC
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G @ 3.9/4.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    MSI B550M-PRO-WiFi Ver. 1.4
    Memory
    2 x 16 GB DDR4 Kingston Fury Beast 3200 Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT MSI Mech 2X OC Edition 8 GB
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (Integrated)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung C50Rx 27" LED / HP S2031 20" LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 px / 1600 x 900 px
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SN570 NVME M.2 SSD [1 TB] -- External Drives: - WD Scorpion Blue 250 GB 5400 RPM (Data Backup) - Hitachi 500 GB 5400 RPM (Software / ISOs Backup) - Toshiba MQ01ABD100 1 TB 5400 RPM (OS Images) - HGST TravelStar 7K1000 1 TB, 7200 RPM USB 3.0 - ADATA SU800 2TB SSD USB 3.0
    PSU
    Corsair RM750e 750W Fully Modular
    Case
    Naceb Hydra NA-1602
    Cooling
    Naceb Orpheus x 3 (Front) + Naceb Cepheus 1200 RPM Max (Rear) + ThemalRight Assasin X 90 SE (CPU)
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK470 Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech MK470 Wireless
    Internet Speed
    120 MB Symetrical
    Browser
    Firefox / Brave / Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    - VMs: WMware Player - Windows 8.1 Pro x64 / Windows 11 Pro
    - Wacom Intuos Pro Small Tablet PTH-460
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 15-eh3000la (80M53LA)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 7730U @ 2.0/4.5 Ghz
    Motherboard
    HP 8BC7
    Memory
    2 x 16 GB Kingston Fury Impact DDR4 3200 Mhz
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon (tm) Graphics Vega 8 (512 MB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (Integrated)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AU Optronics
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 px (125% size)
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SN570 1TB NVME M.2 Drive
    PSU
    45 Watt Charger
    Cooling
    Laptop Cooling Pad
    Keyboard
    Free Wolf Foldable Portable Keyboard
    Mouse
    Free Wolf Wireless Mouse
    Internet Speed
    120 MB Symetrical
    Browser
    Firefox / Brave / Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    - 41mWh battery.
    - Wacom Intuos Pro Small Tablet PTH-460
Okay, I wanna try in a VM (VMWare) how the process of updating certs in the BIOS would go. I'm following the instructions in the Mosby website, but the thing just doesn't boot into the USB drive.
- I use Rufus to download the UEFI shell (2.2)
- Overwrite the Mosby files it already has with 2.3
- I leave all defaults
- I choose 25H1 as the UEFI shell (yep, 25H1, not H2... apparently that's the newest option)
- Create
- No profit

Is this just a VM thing and I need to test in a live system? I wanna try on a VM because I need to see how the process actually works before messing with my real PCs... It's a 25H2 Windows 11 VM. Entering Bios and selecting UEFI USB is a no go, just black and return to BIOS.

Halp this BIOS illiterate... <_<;
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built PC
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G @ 3.9/4.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    MSI B550M-PRO-WiFi Ver. 1.4
    Memory
    2 x 16 GB DDR4 Kingston Fury Beast 3200 Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT MSI Mech 2X OC Edition 8 GB
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (Integrated)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung C50Rx 27" LED / HP S2031 20" LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 px / 1600 x 900 px
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SN570 NVME M.2 SSD [1 TB] -- External Drives: - WD Scorpion Blue 250 GB 5400 RPM (Data Backup) - Hitachi 500 GB 5400 RPM (Software / ISOs Backup) - Toshiba MQ01ABD100 1 TB 5400 RPM (OS Images) - HGST TravelStar 7K1000 1 TB, 7200 RPM USB 3.0 - ADATA SU800 2TB SSD USB 3.0
    PSU
    Corsair RM750e 750W Fully Modular
    Case
    Naceb Hydra NA-1602
    Cooling
    Naceb Orpheus x 3 (Front) + Naceb Cepheus 1200 RPM Max (Rear) + ThemalRight Assasin X 90 SE (CPU)
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK470 Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech MK470 Wireless
    Internet Speed
    120 MB Symetrical
    Browser
    Firefox / Brave / Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    - VMs: WMware Player - Windows 8.1 Pro x64 / Windows 11 Pro
    - Wacom Intuos Pro Small Tablet PTH-460
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 15-eh3000la (80M53LA)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 7730U @ 2.0/4.5 Ghz
    Motherboard
    HP 8BC7
    Memory
    2 x 16 GB Kingston Fury Impact DDR4 3200 Mhz
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon (tm) Graphics Vega 8 (512 MB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (Integrated)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AU Optronics
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 px (125% size)
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SN570 1TB NVME M.2 Drive
    PSU
    45 Watt Charger
    Cooling
    Laptop Cooling Pad
    Keyboard
    Free Wolf Foldable Portable Keyboard
    Mouse
    Free Wolf Wireless Mouse
    Internet Speed
    120 MB Symetrical
    Browser
    Firefox / Brave / Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    - 41mWh battery.
    - Wacom Intuos Pro Small Tablet PTH-460
I don't know if you need a direct system. I've never used a virtual machine.
Have you extracted mosby to the root of the shell 2.2 USB key drive?
You may need to use the boot menu key to select the USB key drive.

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11
What would be funny or PISSSSSS a lot of people off is ms just rewrites the ca 2011 and pushes it via a wu, all of this hard work and time up and gone like a fart in the wind .
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WINDOWS 11 WINDOWS 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP H8 1360T
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 -3770K CPU 3.50 GZ 3501 4 CORE
    Motherboard
    PEGATRON 2AD5
    Memory
    32.0 GB (31.9 GB usable)
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD RADEON TM R5240 INTELL HD GRAPHICS 4600 TIGER 1+1 USB
    Sound Card
    AMD HD . IDT
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC WAL MART SPECIAL . HP 2311 IX IPS LED DELL 1708 FP
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080 1600X900 1280X940
    Hard Drives
    1 FAXING S 100 512GB 1 KINGSTON 120 GB SSD 1 X12 SSD 512 GB
    PSU
    300 WATT HP
    Case
    FULL
    Cooling
    ON BOARD FAN
    Keyboard
    LOGITEC K 520 WIRELESS
    Mouse
    LOGITEC M 510 WIRELESS
    Internet Speed
    55 UP 11.2 DOWN
    Browser
    CHROME EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS SECUIRTY
    Other Info
    NON SUPPORTED HARDWARE FOR WINDOWS 11
What would be funny or PISSSSSS a lot of people off is ms just rewrites the ca 2011 and pushes it via a wu, all of this hard work and time up and gone like a fart in the wind .
Well, for a variety of reasons, that's not going to happen, so I'm not worried about being annoyed with that particular occurrence.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14500
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 45" Ultragear, Acer 24" 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    5120x1440, 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
    Silicon Power 2TB US75 NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 SSD (backup)
    Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND (2nd backup)
    Seagate 4TB Ironwolf, rotating HDD archive files
    External off-line backup Drives: 2 NVMe 4TB drives in external enclosures
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
    Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
    Cooling
    Lots of fans!
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 25H2, Build 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 eD NAND PCIe SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Defender Security
I don't know if you need a direct system. I've never used a virtual machine.
Have you extracted mosby to the root of the shell 2.2 USB key drive?
You may need to use the boot menu key to select the USB key drive.

Yup, it even overrrided the files it already had in the USB. Went to boot menu, black screen, return to boot screen...
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built PC
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G @ 3.9/4.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    MSI B550M-PRO-WiFi Ver. 1.4
    Memory
    2 x 16 GB DDR4 Kingston Fury Beast 3200 Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT MSI Mech 2X OC Edition 8 GB
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (Integrated)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung C50Rx 27" LED / HP S2031 20" LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 px / 1600 x 900 px
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SN570 NVME M.2 SSD [1 TB] -- External Drives: - WD Scorpion Blue 250 GB 5400 RPM (Data Backup) - Hitachi 500 GB 5400 RPM (Software / ISOs Backup) - Toshiba MQ01ABD100 1 TB 5400 RPM (OS Images) - HGST TravelStar 7K1000 1 TB, 7200 RPM USB 3.0 - ADATA SU800 2TB SSD USB 3.0
    PSU
    Corsair RM750e 750W Fully Modular
    Case
    Naceb Hydra NA-1602
    Cooling
    Naceb Orpheus x 3 (Front) + Naceb Cepheus 1200 RPM Max (Rear) + ThemalRight Assasin X 90 SE (CPU)
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK470 Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech MK470 Wireless
    Internet Speed
    120 MB Symetrical
    Browser
    Firefox / Brave / Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    - VMs: WMware Player - Windows 8.1 Pro x64 / Windows 11 Pro
    - Wacom Intuos Pro Small Tablet PTH-460
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 15-eh3000la (80M53LA)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 7730U @ 2.0/4.5 Ghz
    Motherboard
    HP 8BC7
    Memory
    2 x 16 GB Kingston Fury Impact DDR4 3200 Mhz
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon (tm) Graphics Vega 8 (512 MB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (Integrated)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AU Optronics
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 px (125% size)
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SN570 1TB NVME M.2 Drive
    PSU
    45 Watt Charger
    Cooling
    Laptop Cooling Pad
    Keyboard
    Free Wolf Foldable Portable Keyboard
    Mouse
    Free Wolf Wireless Mouse
    Internet Speed
    120 MB Symetrical
    Browser
    Firefox / Brave / Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    - 41mWh battery.
    - Wacom Intuos Pro Small Tablet PTH-460
Yup, it even overrrided the files it already had in the USB. Went to boot menu, black screen, return to boot screen...
Mosby's creator, Akeo, occasionally contributes to this thread:
Ask him (with an @ before his username)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built PC
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G @ 3.9/4.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    MSI B550M-PRO-WiFi Ver. 1.4
    Memory
    2 x 16 GB DDR4 Kingston Fury Beast 3200 Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT MSI Mech 2X OC Edition 8 GB
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (Integrated)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung C50Rx 27" LED / HP S2031 20" LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 px / 1600 x 900 px
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SN570 NVME M.2 SSD [1 TB] -- External Drives: - WD Scorpion Blue 250 GB 5400 RPM (Data Backup) - Hitachi 500 GB 5400 RPM (Software / ISOs Backup) - Toshiba MQ01ABD100 1 TB 5400 RPM (OS Images) - HGST TravelStar 7K1000 1 TB, 7200 RPM USB 3.0 - ADATA SU800 2TB SSD USB 3.0
    PSU
    Corsair RM750e 750W Fully Modular
    Case
    Naceb Hydra NA-1602
    Cooling
    Naceb Orpheus x 3 (Front) + Naceb Cepheus 1200 RPM Max (Rear) + ThemalRight Assasin X 90 SE (CPU)
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK470 Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech MK470 Wireless
    Internet Speed
    120 MB Symetrical
    Browser
    Firefox / Brave / Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    - VMs: WMware Player - Windows 8.1 Pro x64 / Windows 11 Pro
    - Wacom Intuos Pro Small Tablet PTH-460
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 15-eh3000la (80M53LA)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 7730U @ 2.0/4.5 Ghz
    Motherboard
    HP 8BC7
    Memory
    2 x 16 GB Kingston Fury Impact DDR4 3200 Mhz
    Graphics card(s)
    Radeon (tm) Graphics Vega 8 (512 MB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (Integrated)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AU Optronics
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 px (125% size)
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SN570 1TB NVME M.2 Drive
    PSU
    45 Watt Charger
    Cooling
    Laptop Cooling Pad
    Keyboard
    Free Wolf Foldable Portable Keyboard
    Mouse
    Free Wolf Wireless Mouse
    Internet Speed
    120 MB Symetrical
    Browser
    Firefox / Brave / Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    - 41mWh battery.
    - Wacom Intuos Pro Small Tablet PTH-460
Will do, thanks mate.
Oh By the way, I found this somewhere...

Apparently, Linux users are getting automatic updates for the new cert and database updates.
I wonder why them and not the rest of us using Windows...

This is ironic at most

because the Linux Firmware Foundation released it as a firmware update for all Linux systems
i updated two Windows 11 systems using a live Ubuntu USB created with persistence to update
the system certs to 2023. i did post earlier about this but but i don't think anybody took any notice.

best of luck Steve ..
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP 24" AiO
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5825u
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    64GB DDR4 3200
    Graphics Card(s)
    Ryzen 7 5825u
    Sound Card
    RealTek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" HP AiO
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 @60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB WD Blue SN580 M2 SSD Partitioned.
    2x 1TB USB HDD External Backup/Storage.
    PSU
    90W external power brick
    Case
    24" All in One
    Cooling
    Default Air Cooling
    Keyboard
    HP WiFi UK extended
    Mouse
    HP WiFi 3 Button
    Internet Speed
    1GB full fibre
    Browser
    Edge & Firefox
    Antivirus
    AVG Internet Security/Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Mainly Open Source Software
  • Operating System
    Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 13" Latitude 2017
    CPU
    i5 7200u
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel
    Sound Card
    Intel
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13" Dell Laptop
    Hard Drives
    250GB Crucial 2.5" SSD
    Mouse
    Generic WiFi 3 button
    Internet Speed
    WiFi only
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    ClamAV TK
    Other Info
    Mainly Open Source Software
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