Very long pause before bios post screen quandary


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I didn't want to edit my post just previous to this so my description of the problem isn't lost in the noise
A couple of additional things I've noticed about the boot process. The desktop has an accent light on the front. This light can be enabled/disabled in the bios. I have it disabled.

When the power is applied to the desktop, as previously noted, the accent light (being disabled) come on for 8 seconds. It then switches off at 8 seconds. That indicates to me the bios boot process is doing something during this pause.
I don't know what processes are happening during the initial phase before the post screen appears.
 

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OK I just shut my comp off... completely.

Then I turned it on via the case power switch.
It took 13 seconds to get to the BIOS splash screen, and 14 more seconds to get to the Lock Screen.
I have the POST Delay Time, set to 2 seconds in the BIOS, and I have Fast Boot (in the BIOS)... Disabled.
That's normal speed for me.
I have Windows installed on a 2.5" SSD

When I say BIOS splash screen, I mean this...
In the BIOS I can set this to show the ASUS logo instead.

00000 BIOS Splash Screen.png


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OK I just shut my comp off... completely.

Then I turned it on via the case power switch.
It took 13 seconds to get to the BIOS splash screen, and 14 more seconds to get to the Lock Screen.
I have Windows installed on a 2.5" SSD

When I say BIOS splash screen, I mean this...

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That indicates to me that what I'm seeing may be normal behavior. Even though mine may take twice as long I have a lot of stuff plugged into USB slots. Even though the time before the splash screen is unaffected with everything disconnected. I have not tried booting with the NVMe (OS) drive removed totally from the machine. I only tried it being disabled in the bios. It's a real killer to get to and remove. I DID physically remove the drive that had the secondary OS I was referring to as "clone". That didn't make a difference either.
 

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One other question GHOT. Is Karen's Replicator not redundant to the Macruim backup? Why do you use it in addition to Macrium?
 

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One other question GHOT. Is Karen's Replicator not redundant to the Macruim backup? Why do you use it in addition to Macrium?

Yes... in a way. But I don't make Macrium backups of my storage drives, cause they are HUGE, and as you can see in the pics... the 4TB is almost full. I ONLY use Karens on the storage drives.
I ONLY use Macrium for my Windows backups.

As I said above... the 4TB is my working drive. That's where I save things and delete things, etc.
Then every 2-3 days, or weeks... I run Karens, just to copy the changes I might have made to the 4TB... onto the 8TB.



Do you have Fast Boot enabled or disabled, in your BIOS?
 

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Yes... in a way. But I don't make Macrium backups of my storage drives, cause they are HUGE, and as you can see in the pics... the 4TB is almost full. I ONLY use Karens on the storage drives.
I ONLY use Macrium for my Windows backups.

As I said above... the 4TB is my working drive. That's where I save things and delete things, etc.
Then every 2-3 days I run Karens, just to copy the changes I might have made to the 4TB... onto the 8TB.

I see. That make total sense.
 

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I see. That make total sense.



You CAN do it all with Macrium... but I like keeping Macrium.... simple.
Karen's is a LOT easier to set up "jobs" on, than Macrium or Acronis.


Btw... there's another program at Karen's called: Directory Printer.
It's awesome... it'll print out whatever is in whatever folder you point it at.

Like if you wanted to print out a list of all your... music... or pictures... etc.


Like so...
 

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Also, Macrium is MUCH easier to set up than Acronis. Plus, the Macrium backup full backup took about 15 minutes compared to over an hour for Acronis.

You're not doing it right. Don't boot from Acronis Linux environment, boot from Windows Strelec. That way it is much faster. It backups or restores the NVMe disk of a Surface Laptop in less than 10 minutes, on an external USB enclosure for a NVMe disk.
 

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Do you have Fast Boot, enabled in your BIOS?
With Fast Boot enabled... it skips a lot of the POST test during boot. It'll speed things up.




/edit

If you decide to remove Acronis... don't just try to uninstall it.
Use the Acronis removal tool.

 
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Do you have Fast Boot, enabled in your BIOS?
With Fast Boot enabled... it skips a lot of the POST test during boot. It'll speed things up.




/edit

If you decide to remove Acronis... don't just try to uninstall it.
Use the Acronis removal tool.

I got you on the Acronis removal.

This bios has no setting for fast boot. I thought fast boot might be there but named or described differently. The only timing setting i have found is a Post Screen display delay. It's something like None, 2,5,10,15,20 or 30 seconds. I have it set to none. I changed it but sound there is no difference in timing at all. It's like it does nothing.
 

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I got you on the Acronis removal.

This bios has no setting for fast boot. I thought fast boot might be there but named or described differently. The only timing setting i have found is a Post Screen display delay. It's something like None, 2,5,10,15,20 or 30 seconds. I have it set to none. I changed it but sound there is no difference in timing at all. It's like it does nothing.


Yeah, I wasn't sure if you had it or not. Some BIOSes do and some don't.
I found mine hidden away on the Boot tab.
 

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Here is an the Advanced tab in the bios. I tried to copy the PDF here but at 4mb the size is too large. I have managed to capture the Advanced Tab screen. Not much there to see. There are not many things that can be changed at all.

I even talked to the people at American Megatrends (AMI) He said HP develops their own bios and puts the AMI trademark on them. Since it's loosely called a gaming pc, you would think they would give a few more options in the bios. I didn't buy it to game with though. I bought it for speed. SDR transceivers need a lot of memory and processing power.

Ah well. Unless some comes along that can come up with a cure, I'm not too concerned. Although what you told
me about your boot speed this morning., this may be completely normal.
 

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Here is an the Advanced tab in the bios. I tried to copy the PDF here but at 4mb the size is too large. I have managed to capture the Advanced Tab screen. Not much there to see. There are not many things that can be changed at all.


Yeah, you don't have a lot of BIOS there. :)




This is just my Boot tab, and there's tons of stuff under each of those headings.

Image1.png

Check out my BIOS manual, here.




This is one of the reasons, I started building my own computers 20-30 years ago. More bells and whistles.
They give you much greater control of things.
 
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    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    (onboard) Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    LG GH22LS30 CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    COOLER MASTER ATCS 840 Full Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    100/100
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security (latest)
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot®
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    100/100
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?183088-5000-B-E-on-M2N32-SLI-Dlx-Overclocked&p=2891724#post2891724

RubberDuck

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Yeah, you don't have a lot of BIOS there. :)




This is just my Boot tab, and there's tons of stuff under each of those headings.

View attachment 30577

Check out my BIOS manual, here.




This is one of the reasons, I started building my own computers 20-30 years ago. More bells and whistles.
They give you much greater control of things.

I built mine for a long time. I got away from it because I was getting a lot of them provided free through work.
I bought this one. I should have built it. Maybe next time.
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion Gaming 790-0077c
    CPU
    I7 8700
    Motherboard
    Berks Form factor: ATX, 36.45 x 24.88 cm (15.35 x 9.79 in)
    Memory
    16gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI 1050t
    Sound Card
    Creative SoundBlaster AE-9
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Twin Samsung 27" curved
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    512Gb and 1Tb

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I built mine for a long time. I got away from it because I was getting a lot of them provided free through work.
I bought this one. I should have built it. Maybe next time.


I just like building my own cause they're easier to fix, if/when they break.
 

My Computers

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  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22000.778
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    (onboard) Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    LG GH22LS30 CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    COOLER MASTER ATCS 840 Full Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    100/100
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security (latest)
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot®
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    100/100
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?183088-5000-B-E-on-M2N32-SLI-Dlx-Overclocked&p=2891724#post2891724

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Here is the boot screen from the bios. The top one is the NVM drive and bottom is the clone. I reconnected them all since it didn't seem to have an effect.

I see in your UEFI BIOS Boot order screen that it shows two drives in the order you might expect to boot them from, right? I would disable the one you DO NOT want to boot from leaving just your NVMe drive as a boot source.
 

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    Microsoft Windows 11 Enterprise 10.0.22000 N/A Build 22000
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    PC/Desktop
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    Dell 9020
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-4790
    Motherboard
    DELL 06X1TJ
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Haswell-DT GT2 - Integrated Graphics [DELL]
    Sound Card
    Intel Haswell - Mini HD Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG SSD SM841N 2.5 7mm 256GB
    PSU
    Some 600W thing
    Case
    Dell mid-size ATX
    Cooling
    Standard
    Keyboard
    Logitech K520
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    Logitech M510
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    500MB/500MB
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    Brave
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I have two SSDs. One with Win 10 the other with Win 11. They're identical otherwise.
But I only hook one of them up at a time.

...

Both of my SSDs are 2.5" so it's easy for me to just swap the cables, when I want to switch drives.
You a LOT going on there on your OS drives, which I think might be the problem.

...


This is showing my Windows 10 drive, but my Windows 11 drive is identical, so when I swap the cables, Windows
doesn't get confused.

Instead of swapping cables, maybe just swap the drives? On the machine I am currently using, I have one of these swap racks,


and also use this 3.5" to 2.5" tray.

 

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    Microsoft Windows 11 Enterprise 10.0.22000 N/A Build 22000
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    PC/Desktop
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    Dell 9020
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-4790
    Motherboard
    DELL 06X1TJ
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Haswell-DT GT2 - Integrated Graphics [DELL]
    Sound Card
    Intel Haswell - Mini HD Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG SSD SM841N 2.5 7mm 256GB
    PSU
    Some 600W thing
    Case
    Dell mid-size ATX
    Cooling
    Standard
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    Logitech K520
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    Logitech M510
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    500MB/500MB
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RubberDuck

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I see in your UEFI BIOS Boot order screen that it shows two drives in the order you might expect to boot them from, right? I would disable the one you DO NOT want to boot from leaving just your NVMe drive as a boot source.

The second drive that was bootable is now nothing more than a data disk. I'll post an updated Disk Management screen.
 

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    I7 8700
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    Berks Form factor: ATX, 36.45 x 24.88 cm (15.35 x 9.79 in)
    Memory
    16gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI 1050t
    Sound Card
    Creative SoundBlaster AE-9
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    Twin Samsung 27" curved
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    1920 x 1080
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Instead of swapping cables, maybe just swap the drives? On the machine I am currently using, I have one of these swap racks,


and also use this 3.5" to 2.5" tray.



I dunno. If I were to do that, I could probably find an extra 5.25" bay or five. :)

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I don't really like hotswap/coldswap bays. Just more places for dust to collect.

I do have an eSATA port under that popup panel on top. I could probably find an external hotswap bay for 2.5" SSDs.



Brb, Imma switch to Win 11.
 
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  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22000.778
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    (onboard) Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    LG GH22LS30 CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    COOLER MASTER ATCS 840 Full Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    100/100
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security (latest)
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot®
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    100/100
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?183088-5000-B-E-on-M2N32-SLI-Dlx-Overclocked&p=2891724#post2891724

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Drive 0 and drive 4 are MBR and have an active partition.
Drive 0 seems to be a data drive so it should not be active
Drive 4 seems that once was a boot able drive. It's now a backup drive so it should not be active.
If for some reason the computer is trying to boot from those drives it takes some time to find out that there is no OS and to look for another drive.
Make it simple as possible. My suggestion is to detach (SATA or power cable) from all drives leaving on only the NVMe and check if it is the first drive on the boot priority list on BIOS.
A problematic drive can delay the boot for minutes.
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  • OS
    Windows 7 HP 64 - Windows 11 Pro - Lubuntu
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    custom build
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4400MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    (4) -1 BX500 SSD - 128G for Win 10
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    350 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
  • Operating System
    Windows 7 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Q550LF
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800- 3000MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs
    & 1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    350 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
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